Something that bothers me regarding "twin stick shooters"

I don't know about fighting games because I don't play those, but regarding twin-stick shooters in particular, I always play with KBM, nothing beats that sweet mouse precision.

I couldn't agree more.

KB+M MASTER RACE !

I think twin stick shooter is sometimes just meant as an identifier, cause I'd say a lot of people play them with keyboard.
I prefer controller, especially ones that give full 360 degree control

You're probably too new school, because back in the days, when DOS was a thing, and even later than so, gamepads were a big thing on PC. We just had a bit of a slump in gamepad useage on PC between the late 90's and up to a short while after the 360 controller started getting traction.

What do I prefer? The right control input for the right game. So driving wheel for driving games, joystick for flight sims and so on.

But for twinstick shooters & "Abuse style" platformers, I do prefer to use keyboard & mouse.

I prefer controller for twin-stick shooters because I tend to lose the mouse cursor on screen but I know that up-right on the right stick is going to be up-right on the screen always. That's just me though, and I'm sure it's about what you're used to. I do prefer KB+M for most other games, or even a combo for things like world of warcraft; keyboard + joystick + mouse ;)

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Keyboard and mouse is way more accurate in twin stick shooters in most cases - though Bleed or Assault Android Cactus is really good with controller as well.
And this is surprising for me, but I ended up liking controllers a lot - where comboes, movement and traversing is the main gameplay element, they are excellend. FPS and games requiring accurate aiming / mouse movement are still with mouse + keyboard. When in doubt I just use the one that feels better, they are just tools to have the best controlls, no reason to hate on any of them IMO :)

I am tired of this KB&M master race.

Why can not both exist?

What else you would call them?They started out as twin stick shooters because they started in the arcade.

Why do we call it cargo when it is on a ship and shipment when transported by vehicle?I have no clue but it is what it is and I deal with it.

P.S. just because it is more accurate or may be more "accurate" does not mean it is some how the only choice people need and I like them being called twin stick shooters because I know right away what type of game it is.

It depends on the genre--some games are better with controller, some are better with keyboard + mouse. You can't say that one control scheme is objectively better for every single game because it's so subjective. I personally don't really like twin-stick shooters much, but with the few I play, I find playing with a controller easier and more enjoyable than KB+M. Trying to play a twin-stick shooter with keyboard+mouse just feels wrong to my hands. Moving with WASD is so much less fluid, and harder to do precise movements, than moving with a joystick. (Meanwhile, most RPGs, especially Western RPGs, I find better with keyboard+mouse.)

Twin stick shooters with keyboard and mouse ? :D The world is a curious place...

Edit: I always thought part of the fun and most of the challenge in twin stick shooters is to relate the position of my character to the positions of the enemies to pick the right angle for the shot. If I just point my cursor at the enemies doesn't that take most of the challenge out of the game ?

I also preffer the keyboard for fighting games, at least that way I can pull some moves while I'm just awful with the controller.
But twin stick shooters with k+m? Where's the fun on that? That's the kind of game that I like to play with the controller sitting a bit farther away from the desk where k+m stops being an option. Actually, many times the decision between controller vs k+m boils down to how close to the screen I like to sit for that particular genre.
Also 3rd person platformers must be played with a controller, I don't even understand why they bother adding keyboard and mouse support, that's for 1st person platformers.

Even after years I'm utterly incapable of using both sticks on a gamepad at once, I struggle even with looking around while driving my truck in ATS, so mouse for me erryday.

e: Been playing games since around mid 90s, and the first time I held a gamepad with two sticks in my hands was... four years ago I think. Or, hell, even with one stick, the only one I used before that only had a d-pad and couple buttons. No problems with flightsticks and wheels.

Twin stick shooter is just a control scheme identifier, when you can independently move to a certain direction and shoot to another. Top-down shooters not always allow this, many only let you shoot in front of you, shmup style.
It is also a way to identify a mostly top-down shooter from modern FPS games, which adapted the twin-stick controls on peasant sticks due to obvious constraints.

They're called twin-stick shooters because in the good ol arcade days, the arcade machine for those games had two sticks instead of a single stick and buttons. It's really just that simple. Some other games even used trackballs, like missile command.

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what about gamepad + mouse...? :)

i play alot games where i map the movement to the gamepad (movement is much better than 8-way-keyboard) + mouse for aiming (but only if the gamepad aiming is bad)

and i have best immersion if i play game with gamepad only..

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