Can you help me with this decision on a gaming PC?

the overall pc is more a low end nowadays...but I think u can run almost all games at low settings, but if u play at a small resolution, because if you want to play on a full hd monitor will need a more powerfull videocard... better you will keep ur money for a better PC :)

I am not an expert but better if you tell how much money you want spend for new PC. That would be easier for people who are familiar with game machines or at least PC parts.

How much are they asking for this rig? You can get an Intel i5/Radeon 6770 for really cheap and it'll perform much better.

My comp is similar in proc, ram, and OS, but what little I know of the graphics card, I think that one is lower-spec than mine (an Nvidia GTX 260). I can run Bioshock Infinite just fine on very good settings (I rarely turn anti-aliasing on past 2x because I think it's a waste of power, and I don't remember having to cut shadow or reflection fidelity at all, which are usually the other two big hits). Arma 3 runs very sluggishly on my comp. Arma 2 runs okay, but not great. SR3 runs well enough. Haven't tried the others, but Arkham City has the occasional hiccup in scenes where I'm gliding very quickly over a large amount of the city, so I wouldn't really trust that comp to do well with Origins. And again, totally different graphics card, so... there's that.

[edit] I'd +1 going for an i5 rig -- they weren't quite out yet when I built mine, but if they were, I'd have definitely gone that route. [/edit]

That PC is pretty bad and outdated.

Just looking on ebay again and i found this... any better?

• ASUS motherboard with HD audio output and Ethernet

• Intel Quad Core Q6600

• Sapphire - ATI Radeon HD 4850 - 512MB Graphics Card (1x DVI, 1x HDMI and 1x VGA Ports)

• 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz RAM

• 500GB Seagate HDD

• ASUS Dual Layer DVD-RW drive

• 500W Evo Labs power supply

• Stylish window case as new

• 2x System fans (2x120mm Red LED)

• Front LED

• Microsoft Windows XP SP2 (Activated and Authentic)

You need around £600 to have decent PC. Save your money and don't buy crap from e-bay.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-308-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2486

Why do you keep finding DDR2 computers? They are outdated like hell

I recently build a budy of mine a gaming system for ~700 € which could run Battlefield 4 on Ultra on about 36 FPS average, paying 715 would have given us around 38-42 FPS, to give you an idea of graphics/price relation of modern computers.

I honestly recommend buying the parts individually and building your own machine. You will be able to save money over all and you can have it customized the way you see fit with all the tech you want.

The 2 computers you posted are very old and outdated.
If you are on a budget just go full AMD.

My recomendation:

AMD FX 4 Series (6 Series is much better if you can afford)

4gb DDR3 (8GB DDR3 if you can afford)

HD 7770 (HD 7890 is much better if you can afford)

A 60$ motherboard with socket AM3, DDR3 and single PCI-E

A 600W power supply (just don't go for crappy brands)

Besonderheiten: DirectX 11 fähig, extrem schnelle Grafikperformance, neuste Intel PU Technologie Sehr schnelle HDD-Performance,
Beschreibung: Die Konfiguration versteht sich ohne Betriebssystem !
Zubehör: Manual,Treiber(CD)
Steckplatz PCI-Express x16: 3
S/PDIF: ja
max. Anzahl S-ATA-Geräte: 6 x SATA600
Prozessor: Intel® Core i7-4770K Prozessor
Seriell: Nein
Sound on Board: 8-Kanal Realtek ALC1150
DVD-Brenner: DVD-Writer S-ATA
Jumperless: Ja
System Monitoring: Ja
Crossfire-tauglich: Nein
Grafik: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WF 3X OC, 2GB DDR5
Max. Speicher: 32GB
Steckplatz PCI-Express x1: 4
Chipsatz: Intel Z87 Express
Power Management: Ja
PS/2: PS/2-Tastatur Combo
Lüfter: Scythe Katana 3
SLI-fähig: Ja
Raid: 0,1,5,10
Speichertakt: 1600 MHz DDR3, CL10
Hauptspeicher (Dual-Channel): 16GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance LP
DVI: 2x + 1x HDMI + 1x Displayport
Parallel: Nein
USB-Anschlüsse: 8 x USB 2.0 + 6 x USB 3
SSD: SAMSUNG SSD 840 PRO 128GB
Mainboard: MSI Z87-G45 GAMING, ATX
Gehäuse: Cougar Evolution 6GR1B schwarz
Handbuch: deutsch
Software_Z3: System Software Utilities
Festplatte: WD Caviar Green 2TB Sata 6Gb/s
On-Board Netzwerk: Gigabit Killer E2205
Firewire: Nein
Audio-Schnittstellen: Line-in, Mic-in, Front-out, Rear-out, Center-out
Netzteil: Cougar Power 700 W
999.99€

It depends on where you live.. i live in Europe and if you look around a bit you can find descent computers for reasonable prices.If you live in Germany or near the border of Germany you could see at www.atelco.de but there are also others... If you want to play games reasonably well i suggest that you look at your local stores or on the net but look for the best prices and read a bit on the subject like "which memory board , graphic cards, processor etc".
In the US however i think you can get PCs a lot cheaper then here in Europe :)

OP, the fact that the mobo has 2 PCIe x16 slots doesn't mean it is SLI or crossfire ready, not all chipsets suppor that.

What motherboard is it/What chipset does it have?

edit: nvm, the ASRock N7AD-SLI is a X58 chipset, seems like X58 supports SLI/Crossfire

That PC will run Saints Row 3 and Bioshock well enough at lower settings. For Skyrim, you will be fine at 1080p and max view distance if you turn down texture size and everything else. I'm not sure about BF3, but for Arkham Origins you'll definitely want a better system. I'd put a better video card in, maybe an AMD R9 270X. Get at least 8GB of DDR3 RAM.

If you're using this system as a gaming PC while you buy up better parts one at a time, this will make a decent system. It really depends on how much this ebay system will cost you. I wouldn't pay more than 200 for the system in the original post, and that's only if you're using it for upgrade paths.

You could post the range of your budget on this PC. People can build a lot of different PC that can run games you mentioned. But the most important thing is the money limit.

My budget range is £200-£450 (maybe going up to £500).