1st world problems,,,
personally on 1Mbits i cant watch 720p youtube
nothing will change until they throttle the porn unfortunately
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I'm sorry for your loss (of bandwidth). Scnr..
On a serious note: just don't accept it. Inform your neighbours, start petitions, shitstorm your ISP's social media appearances, contact your consumer-central and your politicial representatives.
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Do you get cell service for Verizon where you live? I use the Verizon unlimited plan + an app named PDAnet+ to have unlimited 3 MB/s data on my PC and I live in the middle of nowhere too. Ping is about 80-100 for most games
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Yeah, for years I've had friends that use a cellphone data plan + some type of tethering as their primary access to their ISP (you can even get fancy with it by buying a MiFi router, so basically you slip in a SIM card and your whole place has Internet access). Most providers put in place scary warnings or say they will throttle you, but unless you are pushing hundreds of GBs (which some people, myself included, need to), you should be good.
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Well, if that cheers you up a bit... my internet is still worse and much more expensive.
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I give you hugz, and we shall wallow in this together
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Worse than a few kilobytes and more expensive than 50 dollars? what the hell...
Man, I feel so sorry for you guys...
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yeah, how ? where do you live ? what is your provider ? are you not on an old offer that has'nt been changed in like 15 years ?
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To be fair I misread OP and we have now similar speeds - 150-200kbps down. But yeah, $110/m...
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That's ridiculously expensive...
I'm not exactly sure how ISPs work, but it seems extremely unfair.
Can't you change providers, or is that the best you can get?
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Only unlimited service. I think there's a few other, not much faster at all, around the same price, but with data cap. I know, it's bullshit... part of living nowhere, I guess.
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move to portugal, we will offer you 100mbps for 20€ a month
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Or Romania. We have 1 Gbps for 10$. 😅
P.S. Don't actually move here, you're probably better off living in most other places.
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indeed, i've read recently that romania has the fastest connection of all europe but their country is more like a big lan so i guess it means it's fast as long as you're dealing with peers/servers that are also in romania but it's a whole other thing with other countries
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You might be right.
It seems to work that way, connections within the country are super fast, but I do get up to 20-30 MB/s download speed from worldwide servers as well sometimes, so it never feels like something's wrong.
It's one of the few perks we have here. I wish I could share it with you guys. :)
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Swedish ISPs used to be like this. Insane speeds in-country but really poor peering internationally. France has done a good job of putting technology first over the years, although I don't know how good Free's 1gbit is. Considering OVH boxes from France have always been killer, it's probably not too shabby.
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They talk too much though, Meo sends me publicity and tries to contact me every few months to ask if i want to add TV for +5€
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I'm sorry to hear about your problems, that is a really shitty situation to be in. I have lived in places with only one decent broadband option before, and it too usually sucked.
However, this has nothing to do with net neutrality and/or changes to it. The new changes, in fact, give the government more right, not less, to do something about these kind of situations where ISPs have a monopoly. The main thing which was changed was treating ISPs as utilities (like water, electric, gas, etc). As utilities they could not be threatened with anti-monopoly legislation. Now they can thanks to the changes.
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Appreciated. Changed some things in main OP to fix it.
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You probably had it right the first time. Your situation is exactly what net neutrality is to protect against. People aren't currently suing the government after the FCC removed it for no reason haha.
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Net neutrality actually did very little to protect against general throttling. It did protect against targeted throttling, that is, slowing down traffic from certain sources, but in practice even that was riddled with exceptions (P2P connections, for example, especially in association with illegal torrents but not always). I've gotten throttled by my ISP both before and after net neutrality was repealed because of reaching bandwidth caps, and any reason they can justify with techno-jargon (more demand in the area resulting in over-utilized infrastructure, traffic increase per user, etc.) is grounds for throttling without legal repercussions except perhaps breach of contract with the customer, same as it was under net neutrality.
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Something tells me the FCC did this to help the ISPs and not someone like Kerros, but what do I know. :)
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Honestly it seems to me like the FCC did this just to not have to deal with it anymore. But that's just my cynicism talking.
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You don't know what NN is do you? It's exactly the opposite of what you said. It takes ALL the control away from the government and lets the ISPs do whatever they want. That's why they LIED to get it passed. Google it.
https://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
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Actually, ISPs are now supposed to be regulated by the FTC, like other businesses, and can actually, like ceildric said, be challenged for monopoly/anti-trust practices. The FCC has done an abyssmal job of actually enforcing NN and ensuring quality of service in general, so I'll wait and see instead of worrying too much.
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According to your steam profile you live in the USA? I can't see you getting 456KB there...?
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I've always wanted to live somewhere more remote and further from the hustle and bustle of the big city, but these internet horror stories are one of the few things keeping my family and I from moving out or just trying to buy a second place.
Hope things get better somehow! :/
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Good/fast/stable internet is important for the work my partner does because she spends the majority of her time working from home and only going into the office for meetings and the like. If we moved to a more rural place, not having at least average-speed internet would be a major problem for us financially.
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ok for anything besides privat things it is clearly a problem
now i can understand your problem with it
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that still makes no sense why aren't you using a satellite?
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Weather. It'd be fine during the summer when most days don't have horrendous conditions, but during rain, snow, wind, etc. (which MI gets a lot of due to lakefronts) it's rendered useless.
Better to have consistent and terrible then inconsistent and better.
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Don't do satellite, they throttle you as well and cost more.
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They not gonna put in adsl lines for those few that live in the middle of nowhere.
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Well, DSL has to do with telcos, I think you meant Fiber (which the majority is controlled by telcos as well... so it's not a good scene). There is still a lot of "dark fiber" (aka fiber lines that aren't in use) in the ground across the US and other countries that go back to the tech crash of the early 00s.
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ADSL line is what we call it here, fiber all the same.
Anyway just looking at the netherlands, and that's i dunno 1000x smaller then the states, and a bunch of places that don't get fast internet either because it's not profitable for the isp's.
I can very well imagine some places (Alaska, or some desert area) that wouldn't make it profitable either.
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ADSL (or any type of DSL for that matter), uses copper phone lines (Germany has some good/cheap DSL ISPs) and fiber is literally fiber optics (although a lot of people call TV "cable", regardless of if it's OTA, satellite, IPTV, etc... so I get it :p). You are right too; a friend lives outside of Amsterdam proper and has FTTP (100mbit although 1gbit is offered). Sadly a lot of outside companies like BBned (Telecom Italia) and large Dutch-based media companies like KPN (which bought out Reggefiber) have slowed down rolling out of services significantly.
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Internet companies planted that seed a long time by making sure people think they can't live without "internet" now phase two is in full swing, which is do whatever the hell they want because now it's a need not an option.
Ahh capitalism at it's finest,the same way you can't live without "health care" and the cost is so out of control and well other things involved but the main point is if most people said I don't need it and will not use it, it would be dirt cheap to get people to use it.
I mean hell they got my grandma convinced she needs health coverage and needs to shell out another 200 a month out of her social security to cover co-pays that retirement won't cover.She says I can't stop paying I need it to live, crazy how mankind survived for so long without hardly any health care, now all of sudden we can't survive without it.
Sorry about your internet, but really your only option is to deal with it, move, or just quit paying.At least you have access plenty of people still can't even afford your crap service so I guess there is a small bright side to it all.
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Yeah except we actually can't survive without healthcare. You were lucky to live to be 50 before modern medicine.
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If you can't survive without healthcare, we would have been extinct a long time ago.Hence why I said mankind has survived this long without it, surely not having is not going to kill all of us off.In fact, plenty has lived long years without out, plenty had lived short lives with it.
When a lot of those people choose meds over buying stuff that would give them a better quality of life because they have it in their heads they can't live without medicine, yes clearly we are better off.I would rather live life on my terms then make someone else rich just so I can wonder how I will get by because "modern medicine" needs my money more than buying food, paying bills because we can't live without "health care".You take it when you can afford it and go broke and still die a miserable death.Yes, clearly modern medicine is the savior of mankind.
I suppose we can't live without cellphone either cause you might break down and freeze to death.
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Except that some people can't really survive without healthcare, or their lifespan / quality of life is drastically diminished.
Just because we didn't go extinct doesn't mean the advancements weren't necessary. There is a difference between subsisting through malnutrition and chronic conditions, and living a life mostly free of utterly avoidable ailments (many of which shorten lifespan or capacity to enjoy daily life). Using extinction as an argument, you could suggest that having clothing or a roof over your head aren't necessary and we were duped by capitalism into considering them staples of a good life.
Equating healthcare to recreational services is a bad example. :P
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You can argue a lot of things just based giving you a better life or keeping you alive.Money, A Vehicle, Internet, Cell Phone etc.Those are all things that can, improve your health, living conditions, keep you alive.I mean after all, without some of those things it may be harder to make money, get food, get to work.So where do you draw the line on what really is so-called needed to stay alive
Yes clearly good health care can improve your odds of surviving and may give you a better life, but I never said it didn't or couldn't.I merely said it's not needed to survive.That is one reason I brought up my grandma.What good is shelling out for the so-called "health care" that you and the other person are so hell bent on proving you need to live if you have to starve yourself to afford the medicine.Do share the benefits of shelling out money for meds that so-called give you a better life all the while skipping meals or other important things to take them.
The cost is the biggest issues, and the people that need the meds the most and have high cost are the ones that are most likely to skip doses and risk death or health issues from not taking it.Yes clearly overpriced health care is way better than no health care and not eating healthy and skipping meds.
Yes, clearly my life is much better with medicine,I need to shell big bucks so I don't die so I can grow old and broke, seems logical.I would rather take my chances and take what life gives me and live it the way I want and enjoy then waste it paying for other people enjoyment.
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I feel with you ..... i have at "normal" days 160kb/sec. ...... at bad days, with "luck", 120.
And that in GERMANY (goddamit!)
Anything with the cables/connection are not ok but my ISP and the one that lease the last meters to them say both the other one must fix it/can do anything. And so nothing would be done.
I need a day for downloading stuff that cost my dad 30 min.. Can be very frustrating sometimes.
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Ugh that's annoying. Most of my Germany friends have Deutsche Telekom DSL, but a few have either Kabel Deutschland or Unitymedia, which seem to provide much faster speeds (I think Deutsche Telekom had a monopoly with phone and cable that was sorted out in court so they couldn't dictate what companies did with cable).
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My 100/10 net seems kinda nice when i compare it to the US.. I feel sorry for you guys.
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No one has just 1 provider in their area, usually only 1 line provider. Check these guys out. https://www.exede.com/
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Meanwhile ever reindeer here probably have faster. Not complaining about my 10€ 100/100 at home or 22€ 100/x 4g either. :)
http://klaava.com/finland/reindeer-get-a-long-distance-communication-network-in-lapland/
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Edit -- Apparently just ISP things
For those of you who aren't aware, I live out in the country where people like myself only have access to 1 ISP. We pay $50 a month for a max of 456Kilobits per second download speed.
So gaming for myself had never had an issue. I simply had to play in times where other relatives weren't on so we could all be happy. That is not the case anymore. About 3 weeks ago, I started experiencing some odd issues. My connection to my games and YouTube were going abnormally slow. Usually on non-busy times, I could watch 720p videos (not if they were 60fps though). Now I can barely get 360p running. My games all have packet loss issues, and I cannot for the life of me do anything now.
So I called my ISP to ask what the heck was going on because this way abysmal performance (compared to my normal download speed for the country) and apparently they're throttling my connection to certain applications. When I asked why, they said they're currently rewriting some things regarding Internet Access for their customers.
To compare to what I "had": Steam download speed on good days was 300-400kbps, now it's 150-200kbps.
I envy you people who can actually get AT@T, xfinitiy, or whatever it is these days.....
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