Non-contributors being looked down upon

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Pretty much this. Most the time when I see people bringing up the fact a person isn't a contributer, it's normally because they're either asking for a specific game to be given away or similar things. I can understand the desire to have more chances to win games, but trying to get people to give more of a specific title is similar to begging, especially when the person requesting the game hasn't given anything away themselves. It's not just those threads that get these comments of course, but they normally have similar requests or ideas to put their desires above others.

I'm sorry, but plenty of time a person provides a perfectly valid, honest, reasonable opinion on something and immediately get's put down by someone "pointing out" he hasn't made any giveaways yet. Most of the time, the people that are looked down upon are non-contributors THAT have a different opinion than some contributor.

That's a pretty weak argument. That's like saying you're not racist, but if a black guy is a jerk, then you can say "Well, at least I'm not black!"

You're still using something irrelevant as an insult.

^Wholeheartedly agree.

I also believe that the illegitimate complaints to non-contributors are either used to highlight their own status quo in the site and/or as an ad hominem response (to nullify the counterpart's argument).

That pretty much sums it up.

A lot of non-contributors also don't participate at all in the chat or in the forum, which just adds to the general feeling that they're just here to leech. If you're not a contributor but you often post here, I doubt people will give you shit for not giving away any game.

Gift =/= Gift Exchange

That's not really an apt analogy, on a more serious note.

gift

noun

\'gift\

1: a notable capacity, talent, or endowment

2: something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without compensation

3: the act, right, or power of giving

People don't give gifts just because they expect a gift in return. That isn't called gifting in the first place.

gift /gift/

Noun:

A thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present: "a gift shop".

Verb:

Give (something) as a gift, esp. formally or as a donation or bequest: "the company gifted 2,999 shares to a charity".

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I think what you are trying to say is trading, I think you chose the wrong words

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Not to mention the number of 10 year old kids in the internet who thinks they are awesome.

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It's true for any topic. There are always some people who will look down on those who don't thank, or who thank, or who ask whether it's okay to give away something.

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Pretty much this, I mean, there's times when a I cannot contribute, so I don't. When I can, I do. When you see someone post stuff like, "I won the damn game fair and square- why should you care if I trade it"... it kinda sucks. I see nice, active non-contributors differently from those who post that sort of stuff though. The only people that deserve the title of leech are people that abuse the generosity of others for personal gain. OP is not one of these pwople.

You don't even have to play TF2, with the Summer / Winter events you can get games for free just from doing achievements if you're lucky. There have also been tons of promos, IGN free trials, Reddit key giveaways, Dota 2 / CS:GO betas, extra The Ship copies, extra Nuclear Dawn copies, etc. etc.. plenty of opportunities for most people to giveaway something.

I do get a bit annoyed with people who have 10+ wins and can't even give away something from one of these means.

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Even me? ;_;

Some people just don't know proper manners.

The only thing I've done about it is occasionally giving people who do thank me a DLC for the game they won.

Ugh, the most thing that bothers me when I win a game is this, I am really grateful and excited about my win, but it can't transfer very well via text, I try to make sure the gifter doesn't feel that way though.

Don't have to pay for the internet since I live in a duplex and share the wi-fi signal with the lady downstairs, who pays for it. I work in the pub my mum owns and instead of paying just money, she also buys my groceries and pays my cell phone bill. All the other pay I get and my tips go for gas for getting to work, my rent, and a huge stack of medical bills I accumulated after being in the hospital for a few months while living in the US without health insurance. I'm not claiming poverty. I have enough to cover what I need (although just barely), I just don't have any money whatsoever for myself and certainly not for buying games to give away. Boldly claiming "you're obviously not living on 1 dollar a day" is a bit silly. You don't know anyone else's situation, and I know you don't care, nor does anyone else. I simply explained it for example purposes - to reiterate that it's not just a matter of not wanting to contribute for some, some people literally can't buy games. I've had people tell me to "stop being a leecher and go contribute", which isn't an option.

I realise that non-contributors being looked down upon generally only happens when said non-contributors are being cocky and greedy, yes. I have, however, had people be rude to me simply for disagreeing with something they've said and they've used me being a non-contributor as an excuse. In the instances it's happened, it's happened in conversations where things like being a contributor, games, giveaways, etc. have nothing to do with the present topic, so it baffles me how some people are so quick to bring it up and use it as a way of acting superior. For some people it just seems like a free pass for them to be a prick to someone.

some contributors told non-contributors they should first contribute something before they take their opinion seriously.

Someone outright called me a leecher after being spent only a week on the site.

I see all the time "But you have 0 contributions" used as a negative troll arguement. Best to just ignore it.

I don't want to name names or anything (as it would piss people off and count as "calling them out" in some way I'm sure) but a very recent example involved someone asking if they could deny someone the game they won if they didn't say thank you. I said no, it was in violation of the rules, it would piss people off, he'd get labeled as a fake, etc. I said I agreed that people should have the courtesy to thank the people doing the giveaways and that I try to thank people myself, but although it should be given, I know a lot of people are too lazy or just don't care enough to say thanks so sadly it's an unrealistic expectation for public giveaways. I received a very condescending answer, which irritated me, so I made a snide remark about the fact they were using lots of shorthand such as "b4" and "bcuz" (my exact words were "It's a bit hard to take you seriously when your posts look like text messages from 14 year old girls"). I was being bitchy, yes, and I'm admitting that right now. Tends to happen when I get patronised.

That guy in question and I actually worked it out just fine, no hard feelings, etc., and then a completely different person came in and said to me "Get off your high horse until you contribute. The way I see it, he's actually a useful member of the community and you have no real ground to criticize his request on, especially since it's fairly benign to begin with. Take your own advice and grow up."

I fail to see what me being a contributor had to do with anything going on in the conversation (aside from maybe something like maybe if I were a contributor I'd understand the desire for getting thanks more - although I do totally understand that, I just think that sadly it's unrealistic to expect it from everyone) or why the guy who said it felt the need to jump in with it when it was completely irrelevant, especially considering the situation had been resolved with no animosity between anyone or anything.

There's your example. They weren't as much being rude to me for not contributing as much as they were using it as an excuse to be rude, if that makes sense.