There's a couple, and usually it's because the specific product is no longer available on steam. Not sure why Risen 3 would be in that category...
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Yeah, it is weird. Risen 3 never was bundled or free.
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Actually it was. It got added to the bundle list in August and was retroactive to June 16, 2015. I made a GA for it shortly after joining SG without knowing it had been deeply discounted two months before.
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Whcih bundle?
https://isthereanydeal.com/#/page:game/info?plain=riseniiititanlords
Also: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/SrgP2/risen-3-titan-lords
Still 30p, so it does not counts as bundled on site either
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It doesn't have to be in a bundle to count. It just has to have a discount somewhere in the world for 95% less than the US price, even if that market is region-locked.
If you think the listing is in error, submit a ticket to SG Support to have them correct it.
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I did, though it probably take 1-3 month.
I believe it was close to 90% but definitely not 95%
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https://steamdb.info/app/249230/ 99 rubles is $1.5 USD, if base price is $50, then that's 'more than 95% less than the US price' if that's the rule
EDIT: correction, if base price is $30, then 99 ruble sale in august makes it exactly 95%
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Risen is heavily region locked (activation + run both on gift and all keys) like any other game of that publisher. Why the ROW game should "suffer" because of that?
This makes littlesense.
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People can give away cheap Russian versions no matter their country. Spend $7.50, get $150 CV, big problem.
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Because without it people you can exploit Russian sales to wrack up massive CV.
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tl;dr version:
We lose out because others are selfish, rule-breaking jerks.
Tel est la norme.. :/
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You're the one who used the specific word 'exploit', referring to 'unfair use of resources for personal gain', usually used to indicate cheating a system [ergo, breaking rules or guidelines].
Don't argue with me, I was just supporting the point you made :P
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I said exploit because that's what it is and why it was deemed necessary. Sure it may be shitty but its still not breaking the rules.
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If you're going to nitpick, social rules are still rules. :P
So again, my comment is not invalid.
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but he is supporting what you said xD
region locked games are imposed on us, but some people exploit them as you mentioned (like non-RU residents trading RU copies to give away).
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it is an exploit as long as it's not added to the bundle list and gives full cv. if you see a deeply discounted game that is not on the list, submit a ticket instead of accusing people to be exploiters and rule breakers. if you have something against region locked giveaways, complain the region lock system to gaben instead of calling people from locked regions jerks.
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Staff has stated that it is not an exploit or inappropriate to post giveaways at the wrong CV, so long as they use the current giveaway tag.
You are only considered to be breaking rules if you post under the wrong giveaway title.
I think there may be some differences in expected usage of 'exploit' going on here, however.
And more so, why are you attacking me over 'accusing people'?! That was flag that did that, NOT me; I made a snarky, very generalized comment that didn't accuse anyone.
Also, noone called people from region-locked regions ANYTHING. To the contrary, we were saying that other people were spoiling things FOR those people, since the region-locks wouldn't need to even exist if it wasn't such a big deal.
None of what you responded to was actually in any way said [by me] :P
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i don't get half of the things you just said and the rest of it doesn't add up to what you said before.
edit: i guess i get who you were referring to with "others". can't be 100% sure though.
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tl;dr version means, a summary of previous content.
I tl;dred what I believed fragbait was saying, in a snarky comment, that wasn't directed toward the topic specifically, but just toward people in general.
Hence the last comment, in french, 'That is the standard/normal', which turned the meaning of my comment into 'crappy things happen, people do things that suck, and we compensate for it as best as we can'.
Meaning, in other words, I was supporting the fact that people from region-locked countries weren't in any way responsible for the actions of a few people exploiting steam purchases for trades [ie, buying from the Russian store cheap and reselling to the US- which is what caused region-locking to be added to Steam in the first place]
I'm not at all sure what topic you're on :/
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alright then, my bad. but you shouldn't talk that implicit. i thought you were referring to people from locked regions at this comment.
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:coughs:
http://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/FWHXceR
I wasn't doing anything off-topic or confusing, there :X
It's unfortunate that my phrasing wasn't as clear as I'd hoped, but I wasn't in the wrong.
And 'implicit' means 'obvious in implication', which, yes, I assumed it was; but I'm not really sure how to do what you're saying, that's just part of how I speak. :/
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implicit means "implied though not plainly expressed" according to google translate. at least one of the meanings is that. and that was what i meant. the whole thing collapsed for me when you used "others" instead of plainly telling who you are talking about. it was confusing for me.
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The problem with translate [and google translate is notoriously bad] is it doesn't convey exact usage.
implicit means 'implied (obviously) though not plainly expressed'.
In fact, it rather specifically means things that are easy to understand.
Implicit in its most general meaning, basically translates to 'apparent without question'.
This is why you can say something like 'your faith is implicit' or 'your trustworthyness is implicit'.
Likewise, if you're saying something someone is saying is implicit, you're saying they're being very obvious in an implication.
In any case, you can just use 'implied', you know, for a less intense word. :P
What you were looking for, I think, was
alright then, my bad. but you shouldn't be that subtle with your implications
Perhaps?
Also, can't fault me for sticking to the topic when applying my pronoun usage, and you interpreting them in an extreme way :X
No, I get it, people can suck and say rude things, but there's no reason for us to assume people are doing so when it's in question..
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i hate the word subtle. google translate doesn't seem to explain it well. i always have problems when that word is used. i'll stick to the first meaning of implicit. what you're telling here is the second meaning of implicit on google translate. which is "with no qualification or question; absolute.". and if i'm wrong, it's not my mother tongue after all.
i sure can fault you. it doesn't matter if you were sticking to the topic. the people understanding you're sticking to the topic is all that matters. you failed it. but i'm glad you didn't turn out to be a jerk like me.
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No, the meaning I gave you is the base meaning of the word, as it applies to both sub-definitions.
Here is the actual dictionary definition of Implicit, for the usage you're trying to apply it to:
"capable of being understood from something else though unexpressed"
An important component of the meaning of implicit, through all its usages, is that it leaves no doubt as to the content it is being applied to.
Again, the meaning I gave you is the generalized meaning that can apply to any of its submeanings. If you use that definition, implicit will never confuse you.
I'll change it, however, to be better phrased: ('apparent without question, despite not being clearly expressed').
A nation may yield to another implicitly- meaning they've done so without doubt, even if no formal declaration was made.
Someone's trusthworthness may be implicit, as in, without question.
Someone's frustration with you may be implicit, from the looks they're giving you, despite them never saying they're frustrated.
It's something that's clearly understood, despite perhaps not being made clearly evident :)
Subtle is pretty much just what its dictionary definition details:
"fine or delicate in meaning or intent; difficult to perceive or understand: "
A subtle gesture would be a gesture that isn't easily seen.
A subtle remark would be a comment that has a deeper meaning that isn't readily apparent.
Subtle is a very important and often used word in English, to describe things that are intentionally understated in their ability to be easily understood.
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But it is 30p right now on the site when you make giveaway.
Read carefully what I said - I was talking about internal value. When you login, site calculates cost ofyour account.
Unless I don't know how Sg works anymore.
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The post I was replying too was asking why ROW got penalised and that's what I explained, any potential bug in the values - which aren;t uncommon, dont chnage that fact.
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Bundled games, iirc, don't count towards the value of your account at all anymore. You have to have $100 of unbundled games (meaning not on the bundled list, not necessarily just never in a bundle), which is calculated after price drops, with no credit for bundled/free games.
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yeah i have no idea either... the price in RU and SA doesn't reach the 95% off limit.
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What gives? Any other games like that?
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