Oh no, the 12yo autistic fanboys are at it again.
Also:
Intel Stock: 42,36 EUR
AMD Stock: 18,61 EUR
"Intel is dead"
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AMD can do whatever they want but they are not seeing a cent of my money till they release some actually working drivers for my GPU. And that will probably never happen so shrug.
Yes, I am salty, but I have a very good reason to be...
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Windows ones cause a bluescreen loop, Linux ones straight up don't even install. And the card itself is 100% fine, I have been using it with 3rd party Linux drivers with no issues for years.
The card is a Radeon HD 7650M released in January 2012 (from what I can tell from a quick search) so pretty damn old and assuming on legacy support, but drivers haven't been working for me since 2015ish. nvm, pretty sure it was late 2014.
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Idk, I've had 4 different AMD gpus and haven't had any driver issues with any of them but none were the 7650M
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I'm just saying if you are going to blame the drivers then see if others have the same issue is usually a good way to go. Otherwise it might actually be the component itself that is faulty.
Edit: You also failed to see my acknowledgment that I never had the 7650M.
Edit: Irony Powah! xD (and I'm a derp who can't read)
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Oh, I overlooked that point lol
Now I see what you mean, doh! I should be more thorough when reading lol
That said, I have 10 GPUs, 6 Nvidea and 4 AMD, 2 of the Nvidea cards give me driver problems but at least one of them was a compatibility issue with the mobo.
I guess that isn't the case here, but it does just strike me as odd, but it is an integrated chip I think so idk.
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You're right. I was misguided in my attempt, sorry!
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I had what seemed to be occasional GPU driver related bluescreens on a different card too, but that wasn't too bad. I don't know exactly which one it was because it was in a PC I was just borrowing for a while, I think it was from the same series, just a way better desktop card but it has been a while and my memory is a bit blurry. The driver issue it is not my only problem with AMD anyways, just the cherry on top of problems that don't make me wanna touch AMD ever again. I will swallow the premium pricetag and keep on buying Intel/Nvidia instead.
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Well, it's hard to say if it is an actual driver issue you are dealing with or perhaps a component or compatibility issue.
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Sorry I didn't see you mention it works fine in Linux. That's friggen weird man, sorry I can't be more help!
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No worries! I gave up on getting it fixed a long time ago after bashing my head in trying to fix it for a couple of weeks anyways :)
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Intel will show you the power of 14nm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
300W TDP
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Intel is not dead, competition is alive, and that is all that matters. Now we just need Intel to release some good GPUs soon so Nvidia can stop with the outrageous pricing.
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There are also leaks for gpus. Nobody knows if any of this are real but...you never know.
https://i.imgur.com/Uxrph7p.jpg
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Great news. At long last some worthy competition. Intel will have to snap out of their rehashing cycle and bring out the heavy stuff. I love having as many options as possible when buying something and this is great news for consumers.
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I've been using a Ryzen 5 1600 since july of last year, and been loving it so far.
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Me too, love it!
I always had Intel CPUs but now I'm a fan of AMD
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I have yet to see, in all my years building PCs, any single piece of hardware live up to the pre-launch hype.
Well, just to provide a counter example... ;)
I still think fondly of my glorious AMD K7 Athlon 700 MHz CPU back when I built a PC around it in March 2000. That thing truly lived up to the hype as a Pentium III killer. Outclassed Intel in every available performance metric and was cheaper to boot.
For a more recent example, AMD's R9 290 graphics card comes to mind, the last time AMD actually competed with Nvidia at the high end. It actually turned out as good as it was touted and had a great price to boot.
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While those were both great products, neither of those met the benchmark numbers AMD claimed they would pre-launch. The closest I could think of were the nVidia 8800GT and 3200+ San Diego chips from AMD (still one of the best chips ever made IMHO), and maybe the Thunderbirds from AMD a close third -- and even those fell short of the pre-launch "benchmarks."
That's what I'm referring to here - how they perform in reality compared to how the company claims they will perform. Everyone bloats performance numbers in their favor to sell a product.
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I had the Thunderbird 1.4ghz, it was pretty good at the time but it only last six months, been on Intel ever since.
If I had a quid for every time someone said Intel is dead, each time AMD brought somthing new out I'd be rich, and not sitting here with an Intel cpu. xD
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I'm not sure what makes you say that those products wouldn't meet projected expectations or claims. In the case of the Athlon CPU, here's what Tom's Hardware had to say when it launched in 1999: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-processor,121.html
"Back in October 1998 at the Microprocessor Forum in San Jose, California, the PC-world watched and listened in amazement to Dirk Meyer's first presentation of K7's or now Athlon's architecture. It was quite obvious to experts as well to most other listeners, including Intel employees, that this new AMD processor would mark a new era in the processor world, if AMD could make its promises come true. Now finally, the waiting is over and we can look at a new processor that is indeed living up to all the positive expectations that arose at the end of last year. Later on in this article you will find that the AMD Athlon beats the Intel Pentium III in virtually any benchmark we've ran [...]"
In the case of the Radeon R9 290, Anandtech had this to say: https://www.anandtech.com/show/7481/the-amd-radeon-r9-290-review
"Compared to AMD’s last generation offerings, the 290 is going to be closer to 290X than 7950 was to 7970. 290 retains a larger percentage of 290X’s shader and ROP performance, never mind the fact that the full 320GB/sec of memory bandwidth is being retained. As such despite the wider price difference this time around, performance on paper is going to be notably closer. Paper will of course be the key word here, as in the case of 290 more so than any other card we’ve looked at in recent history theory and practice will not line up. Compared to the 290X, practice will be favoring the 290 by far. [...]
As for pricing and competitive positioning, AMD will be launching the 290 at what we consider to be a very aggressive price of $399. Based on the initial specifications, the performance, and the competition, we had been expecting AMD to launch this at $449, mirroring the launch of the 7950 in the process. But AMD has gone one step further by significantly undercutting both themselves and NVIDIA."
Here AMD not only met, but actually exceeded expectations by delivering 95% of the performance of the flagship 290X, which was higher than even they had claimed, beating the immediate rival Nvidia product and pricing the card lower than anybody would have dared to guess.
I picked these two examples of the product doing the pre-release "hype" justice for a reason, because they stuck with me for meeting or even exceeding expectations and/or projected performance claims.
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Well Intel is not dead, it still has majority of server market in it's grasp etc. AMD wanted to steal like 20% of servers at best.
But extra cores for less money is always appreciated, and if AMD will be less pricey in the future I will buy 3600 or smth to change my 4590. I won't see difference between 120 and 110 FPS, but extra cores will allow me to play and stream (or record) game at the same time without stuttering, drop time needed to process movies etc. So be able to do something on top of playing game that utilize fully 4 cores.
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You realise those rumours are likely bogus? They are simply unrealistic for a variety of reasons:
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"Collectively, these rumors make no sense. They predict unprecedented price cuts, a complete abandonment of AMD’s established CPU feature distribution, large clock jumps without commensurate TDP increases, twice the core count on the same platform even when this makes no sense, and TDPs that must completely depart from the way AMD has reported and measured TDP with the first two generations of Ryzen. And not incidentally, they predict that most of these products will be launched at CES. We haven’t heard a whisper of anything of the sort from AMD."
EDIT: Turns out the original reply was deleted while I had the tab open. Well, there you have it ;)
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As someone else said, I'll wait for benchmarks, it's never a good idea to buy too soon after the release anyway. And it's not as if my current CPU was an issue.
Still, 7 nm will be particularly interesting if it's confirmed, as I'm stuck on laptops so perf/watt is what matters the most for me.
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3700X or 3800X seems like fine choice if these are true. to replace my almost almost 6 years old 6C / 12T processor.
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in fact amd is outselling intel 2:1 at the moment and has been for a few months. obviously this was helped by intel's 14nm shortage but despite intel putting out some 'new' cpus people prefer amd's 'old' but reasonably priced stuff.
however sample size seems kind of limited since they only refer to mindfactory's sales data (german pc hardware online shop). still it provides a decent insight and it would be foolish to assume that all other shops experience a completely different situation.
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Intel is Dead!
HEIL RYZEN!!!
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