It's the single worst moment to buy PC hardware right now. Not only GPU prices skyrocketed to hell due to cryptocurrencies, but with meltdown issue in pretty much all intel CPUs it's almost guaranteed that next generation will come without it, and without heavy performance penalties we had to implement in order to patch it (and still not fully).
Unless you're forced to do it, e.g. your old PC has just died, it's a very wise move to wait.
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Yeah I know but my PC will be 6 years old in July and I cant force it more. Last few games Im already going on low settings and still cant get 60 FPS, If at least we could say that the cryptomining would stop in X months I would wait for sure, i will have to bite the bullet.
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i will have to bite the bullet
Or just play games with less FPS? Failing to hit 60 doesn't exactly scream "do or die" to me, especially if your PC use is mostly leisure.
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Fair enough, just wanted to drive home that there couldn't be a worse time to build a new box.
Also, my initial instinct is to say that the 6700k is underpowered . That said, I demand a lot out of my CPU for work renders and typically outpace my graphics card by quite a bit. As others have asked, it would help us if you detailed the rest of your specs and exactly what you do with your rig.
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Do you use a 4k monitor? If not, then yes the 1060 6GB is a beast and will last you for years.
THAT SAID, card prices are so jacked right now you'll likely be better going cheap and crossing your fingers. Or yeah, just sucking it up like Archi suggests.
But money aside, I love my 1060. I lucked out buying it just as prices started rising. How dumb is it that I feel "lucky" for being able to purchase something at MSRP?
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Why would you get a 6700K atp, unless it's really cheap?
I have a 1060 6GB; it's good but not great. I've played a few games now that I couldn't max out at 1080p while maintaining 60fps. The FFXV benchmark performance I got wasn't as good as I was hoping either.
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The 8700K is the CPU to get right now.
for the GPU, I think a 1070 is the minimum you should get these days if you want something that'll last a while. Also note that the next generation of NVIDIA GPUs are rumored to be getting released in April.
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No idea. It would be the most logical way to name it, but nvidia might go with '2000' instead just because it sounds more impressive.
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No problem. There are also some rumors about nvidia making dedicated mining cards in order to try and fix the pricing issues that have been going on. If you can, definitely wait for the new cards atp.
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Well what is your monitor refresh rate and resolution
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Stick with the 1060 and 6700k. It is a powerful combo perfect for 1080^60 and if you later decide to get a 1080p120hz monitor for smoother play it will be great for that too. The 1070 is guiding more into 1440p gameplay.
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6700k and 1060 6gb
I've been using exactly that for over a year now. Solid build. I don't know about FF XV and Kingdom Come, but whatever I'm running runs nicely in 1920x1080. I don't necessarily go for "ultramax" details, though. It's not a high-end gaming config, after all.
Sure the 6700K isn't recent anymore, but it's good enough. The 7700K adds barely a few % of performance, the 8700K has more but essentially because of the added cores. You might get better perf/$$ going for some Ryzen though. Check benchmarks and prices, it always comes down to this: how much are you willing to spend for how much extra performance? We can't really choose that for you 👀
As others mentioned, crypto "mining" screwed GPU prices, but as you say there's no sign it will stop in the near future. RAM prices are also insane (I assume because of smartphone demand and such), but again no sign it will stop. As for spectre and meltdown, as far as I understood the upcoming generation of CPUs will likely still have it, so...
Computer buying has always been the same, "you can always wait longer to get better". At some point you just need to buy, or you never do ^^
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Computer buying has always been the same, "you can always wait longer to get better". At some point you just need to buy though, or you never do ^^
Yes, but there are definitely better and worse moments, now it's the worst from all. I got my new rig in august last year, 7700k with 1080 gtx ti, and I spent on GPU alone 415 USD (!!!) less than I'd spend today on the very same GPU. Oh yes, and I wouldn't have difficulties buying one in the first place.
People could already make low-end rigs for the sole price difference of that one single GPU. If that's not enough for somebody to consider waiting, then I don't know what is, and I don't want to know...
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there are definitely better and worse moments, now it's the worst from all.
Unless you can tell the future, it still might be a better moment than in the whole year to come... The cryptonuts might be here to stay 🙃
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I doubt it can go much worse from this point onwards. Nvidia already deprecated GP102, so there will be new architecture in upcoming GPUs, and their production should lower overall demand as well. Sure, nobody can foretell the future, but there is barely anything to go worse considering all GPUs are pretty much sold-out already. You can't really go from 0 stock to negative one.
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Hmmm... I'll be honest, I don't think that's the case at all... Looking at the last 6 generations at least, the 60 line of any generation has always lasted for years. I'd say it'll start becoming obsolete by 2021 or so and it'll be completely obsolete by 2023 or so.
The only thing I've noticed that'd back up your claim is that the VRAM requirements have shot up a lot recently, but even that has slowed down significantly. I'd say that's down to the console market, since now they can demand more power. But a 6GB card will serve you well for a long time. Only a few games require 6GB and those are games where you have to download HD Textures and play at 4K.
Please prove me wrong though if that's the case. I'm just sharing my perspective.
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1060 has never been for gaming over 1080p. The 1070 is barely good enough for 1440p. The 1080 can't handle 4K either.
4K isn't really an option for anything. If you want to play older games on 4K, then of course they'll do fine. But so will the 1060.
Don't get me wrong, the 1070/1080 are great cards. Genuinely great. It's just that the price also jumps up and it jumps up a lot. The 1060 is a great option.
I'd understand if you said the same things about the 1050 (maybe even the 1050TI) since that card has started showing its weakness when it comes to playing on higher settings, but that's not the case with the 1060, especially the 6GB version, which is even more futureproof.
It'll last him not a few years, but it'll last him for at least half a decade. And that's no exaggeration. Sure, it won't be max settings, but it'll be like that with the 1070s and 1080s as well. The doubling of the price isn't worth the extra 2 years that the 1080 would give you.
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I agree that 4K isn't really an option for anything, and i agree that prices are realy over the top now. I was lucky enough to buy 1070 in 2016. But my opinion is that 1060 wont last him that long for high end gaming. It all depends on what he himself would want.
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Since you already made up your mind - if you're buying new CPU, always go for the latest generation, especially now when i3 8th gen is equal or sometimes even better than i5 from 7th gen due to double amount of cores. For 1060 GTX I'd suggest at least i3-8100 - it's very cheap, here in Poland it's more or less 140 USD right now. If you already have your 6700k though, not a single reason to change it. If you don't though, not a single reason to buy it either, since you can get much cheaper i5-8400 or i5-8600k, which are both better picks not only price-wise.
In terms of lasting GPU, it's all about quality. 1060 is decent middle ground for "I don't want to spend too much" and "I want something that won't suck like a crap in 3 months from now". Will it last? For sure, but don't expect years on it, unless you're familiar with 30 FPS that is. It's good enough to consider for buying, but rather the bottom of what I'd buy in the first place, since everything lower is simply not cost-effective to spend money on.
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Totally agreed on CPU. A i5-8600K is already better than a i7-6700K.
On GPU, I'd say GTX 1060 right now is spot on for 1080p gaming, but I bought a 1070 to be more future-proof on 1080p to have a little more power available for that.
Personally I bought a GTX 1070 on launch to replace a GTX 660. My i7-3700 is still holding things up.
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Hmm... personally I'd hold off. I know you said you can't take it anymore, but if you don't think of it much, then it won't be bugging you as much. It's basically this current moment that you have the extreme urge for it. It'll subside.
It's just that GPUs are twice as expensive and just now, the APU market is picking up and gaining a lot of steam. The Ryzen's line of CPUs is something that I'd recommend. Personally, I'm rocking a Ryzen 1400 + GTX 1060 6GB combo. I'd recommend at least a Ryzen 5 1600 though.
What are your current specs though? Maybe it might be a better idea to make a sidegrade instead of a full blown upgrade?
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I don't think this is a smart thing to do. I own a 4440 and still works great, but i can't upgrade without switching platform entirely. In a couple of years Tyzual will have to build everything from scratch again, spending more money than what he could save by buying old used components. Buying a new socket (especially AM4 since it will be probably backwards compatible with AM4+) will allow him to eventually upgrade his CPU without throwing out his RAM and motherboard.
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I'd suggest going for the 8700k or the new i5 CPUs. However, you'll need to consider that you'll also have to switch motherboard, probably even RAM if your setup is very old, in case you decide to go for a new CPU.
As for the GPU, you should get the best you can afford. Considering that you play on 1080p 60Hz, I'd say that 1060 is not that bad. You can opt for 1070 as well, but I don't know what the availability and the pricing is like where you live. In case you go for the 1060 get the 6GB one. It doesn't only have 3GB more VRAM, but also more CUDA Cores. Unless of course, the 6GB one is completely overpriced. I would pay an extra 50$ or so at best.
As it was already stated multiple times, it is an awful time to build a PC. A 1060 3GB here costs 330€ which is 405$, while the MSRP is 200$. RAM prices don't help either, as you pay two to three times more than you normally would.
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I will update my PC very soon and have been looking for good but not that expensive setups.
One that was recommended to me was 6700k and 1060 6gb. Do you think its good for like Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Come? Will It last me a few years?
Isnt the 6700k getting to old now?
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