Goddamn, this is so frustrating! I wish they didn't give keys to people with a low number of credits.
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from their point of view - terrible idea. If people with low credits cannot win then they do not get new users and do not get bigger reach.You need a system that not only keep current users intrested but also will bring new users in.
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They could implement a threshold: you're elegible to win once you reach 50 credits, for example. This way it would motivate people to keep entering the raffle and would be more fair to people who actually want the game and have a lot of rounds behind.
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again - terrible idea - 50 Credits = 50h of joining minimum, so scare off any potential new users by saying - you dont have the smallest chance for shit until you invest at least 50 hours with us. Now think about GAs that give keys per 6 hours or 1 day - 2 weeks or almost 2 month of constant entering only to get a chance to win anything? Sure, sign me up... -.-
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You can earn points other ways and this can be lifted/reduced for ga's with less keys and longer rounds. Now it's just not fair for old users that people who joined the site just hours ago win with a 1 digit number of credits.
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how is it not fair? You're an old user and didn't win in a while - you get better chances, someone is fresh user he has much smaller chances. But you all have a chance to win.
By your standards - I look at your SG profile, you have won a lot compared to what you give. It is not fair. You should not be able to win anything anymore unless you give away more and should also waste your points on entering 20000 more GAs until you are able to win to make things fair towards users who gave away a lot more than you and won less than you.
See? Funny how when someone besides you in other system wins and it's not fair but if sth like what I proposed was to be introduced you would call it unfair as well. Whatever gives you smaller chances is unfair and should be changed, but if something is profitable for you it is fair and should not be changed :>
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Actually I would agree with some changes to sg system if users who enter the same giveaways again and again had higher chances to win them. But it's a poor comparison: on sg to increase your odds you need to give back, on orlygifts the only effort you make in order to do this is enter giveaways more times, so it's natural that persistent users should be rewarded.
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yeah sure - you would be ok with changes that would make you more likely to win more or win something you like, but would not be ok with changes that would reduce your chance to win ;)
And you see - On SG you invest games, on orly you invest time. But on SG you can still win with a little game investment as your profile shows, yet you propose that you cannot win on orly with a little time investment? For me it's a great comparison ;) If some changes would be good for you personally then they are fair, if some chanes would not be in your favor they are suddenly unfair and poor comparison ;)
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No, I meant I would agree to changes you've proposed if it'd increase chances of people who always enter ga's for certain games, so it would reduce my overall chance to win, but increase my chance to win games I really want.
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yeah - reduce your overall chance, in return increase chance of what you really want. yet for orly you propose to not reduce but to remove a chance to win to others why maintaining yours - not biased at all :D:
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If someone is really determined and not just a random person who wants to get a game for free fast and make a profit, he will fullfill the requirements. So you think it's fair that users who just signed up on orlygift (possibly twinks) win and users with a bunch of credits don't?
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I think it is fair that they have chance to win, same as every other user has a chance to win. And I think it's fair that their chances to win are few times lower than yours because you were determined to boost your chances.
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But it seems like they win more frequently than users with 100+ credits, according to the list of winners on the top of the page each round. I suggested this to make it more fair for everyone.
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They win more frequently than users with 100+ Credits because there's way more of them than users with 100 Credits. Same as on SG - overall more GAs will be won by level 0 and 1 users than by lvl 10, because there are a lot of low level users and only a handful of lvl 10 users ;p Even if lvl 10 users have bigger chance to win more (because they have access to all levels GAs) most of games will still be won by lvl 0/1.
And no - you're not suggesting to make it fair for everyone - because the fact that users with low credits cannot win at all in your scenario is extremelly unfair to them.
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They won't be users with low credits for a long time, so they still have a chance.
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if they didn't join in 1st hours of LiF GA for example - no they would have 0 chance to win, because they would not be able to get 50 Credits. If they joined when orly were doing a series of AAA games with just 1 key per day they would have 0% chance to win any of these. So yeah - they would remain low credit and unable to win for all these GAs - very fair indeed ;p
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I already said that this rule can be lifted for giveaways like this, I only suggest to use it where it's reasonable.
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and where is it reasonable? Because in this GA it would make anyone who registered later than 10h after GA started unable to win, because he would not be able to rise 50 Credits during whole GA duration.
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Then too bad for them, it's normal to reward loyal customers/users.
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and you get rewarded - your chances are few times higher than the chances of a new user. It's also normal to not disencourage a new customer/user right from the very start by saying "yeah, hello, you can use it but you cannot get jack shit for now, have fun and please stay with us!" :>
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Why are you assuming that I want something that would only benefit me while not requiring anything from me in return? You're putting words in my mouth, I never thought this way.
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because when it comes to SG you don't want yourself getting 0 chances to win due to your poor investment. But on orlygift where your investment is not poor you want chances of others with poor investment not being able to win :>
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It's much easier to get 50 credits on orlygift than to get $50 CV here, for example. If I don't have enough giveaways on sg right now, it doesn't mean that I won't create them in the future.
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if someone just joined Orly doesn't mean he's an alt or that he won't be active in the future. So what's your point? :>
And again - your point about how easy/hard it is is totally subjective. If I join SG today and already have some unwanted keys, some gifts in my inventory I can boost myself to 50$ CV in 1hour after joining. On orlygift if it's 1key/24h for example I get what? 11 Credits 1st day then 1 credit per day, even if it's x keys per hour if I were online 24/7 without sleeping it would take whole day, whole night without sleep and then 16h of next day again nont-stop no sleep to get 50 Credits. So what for you subjectively is easy and hard for another one can subjectively be hard and easy ;p
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Yes, but let's be realistic - a lot of those new users are someone's secondary accounts to increase their chance. I don't think that several minutes a day that one spends on entering orlygift giveaways are comparable to money that people have to spend on here. Not everyone can afford this and time is free.
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then the right and fair course of action is to punish/ban multiaccounts not punish all fair new users in the process.
And if time is free for you - you have limitless opportunities to earn free games in various programs and make GAs with them. You have tremor, you can write GMG reviews, you may do online jobs and so on and on ;p Contrary for someone who has busy work, school, family to spend time with etc loging in each and every hour to orly to join next GA is much less affordable than buying something for GA with money he earns. So once again - you take your subjective perspective and try to force everyone into it ;p
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I have studies; you don't have to spend all this time between new rounds on orlygifts, it only takes a minute each hour to solve captcha and click 'enter', not that much of a hassle. Listen, it's apparent that we won't change each other's opinion, so let's just agree to disagree.
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yeah - try explaining to your boss that you are working, you just need to visit it a minute each hour ;) Or to your wife that honey I'll be right back taking care of kids, but just gotta go log in for a minute ;) Or in the middle of an exam rising your hand asking teacher can you just log in for a minute because you have to enter :D:
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Also for your argument - let's punish them all because there are rulebreakers among them. A lot of Regifting/non-activating on SG happens among lowest levels, people on lvl 0,1,2. So how would you like if you were'nt able to win anything on SGuntil you are level 3? Or level 4? Because this way we may be sure you won't be a regifter! I guess you would not like it too much - because it would affect you. But as what you propose about orly is not affecting you you're fine with proposing punishment for all just to punish rulebreakers in the process ;p
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You really like to argue, don't you? I don't view it as a punishment, just a regulation measure.
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fair regulation measure - you cannot win, I can win. But only on orly. On SG it would be unfair regulation measure because it would mean you can win and I cannot :>
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It's not fair, but because you're comparing the uncomparable.
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and I already explained you why is it fully comparable and why your POV is fully subjective in the matter ;)
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I know, that's why I described both - and actually my situation is closer to yours - I have credits already so I would profit from the changes you proposed. The difference is that while I subjectively see that it would be beneficial to me I also see that objectively it would not be fair, while for you "as long as it doesn't affect me it would be fair" :>
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Yeah, you got me, I'm a greedy bitch. Well played!
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Well... Luck is not on my side with this one. Yes.
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Ok spend so much hours for nothing, so if no game, i stock some points... but it seems its totally useless own lot of them :) Now wait 3 months or more for another good game GA and survive tons of Indie leftovers. :)
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Next one will be http://store.steampowered.com/app/391720/ and it seems to be quite good as well ;)
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already check it :) psychologic horor, nothing for me
also 1 key / 24h... so nothing
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Yeah it is imo.
Its not really a game, more of a walking sim like Firewatch or The Park. Some good jumpscares and a little exploring.
Very nice graphics and sounds, great atmosphere.
I dont think everyone will appreciate it though.
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oh well, got to 104 credits and the RNG has not been kind to me
i blame all you people, too much entrants... ;p
the site is cool, got a few wins there ;)
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Finally I got it! Jippey! didn't believe it would still happen. 38 rounds, wtf. :))
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97 credits and no key so far :(
Wanted to play it with some friends.
2rounds to go!
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So does this count as the game being bundled or being free? I'm seeing a fair number of giveaways for this right now, obviously from orlygift...
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wait for all regifters to make GAs, have them deliver the keys they clearly did not want, have games activated by people who actually wanted them and won on SG, have all GAs retroactivelly deleted as a free game and removing CV from regifters :D:
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Interesting, you've been here for quite a long time, is it really works that way? I thought its just about games with more than 5000 keys free or so.
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it's totally up to support to decide to remove or not a game and they may make this decission also after the GA. It all depends on their subjective decision whether something was exploited/exploitable enough or not.It has happen in the past that GAs got retroactively removed, but it's not often. What I described above is not what will certainly happen, but what I'd love to see happening to all these regifters ;p Not impossible that it will happen, but not certain either.
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Ah ha I see ヽ( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°)ﾉ
love to see ppl suffer, you're evil >:)
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well I am still trying. Been in almost every round besides the vip one and the normal sleep times for me. I really want this game. But hey at least I am not buying it and have a chance to have it for free.
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dont worry, now won guy with 14 credits :D u have much credits, u cant win
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wrong. I won with 122 or 123 Credits. It's simply the case of you have much credits you have bigger chance to win, but you are not guaranteed to win. Same way you have low credits you have small chance to win but you are not guaranteed to lose. How hard is it to understand?
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... it was like joke... ^^ not real "omg omg points" but okey :)
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Well, I guess this is the last round. Gonna take my chance with 100+ points but I doubt I'll win. I hope it will be easy to catch one from a trader.
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I've won a key finally! Entering all those rounds has paid off! 109 credits. :)
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No wins and 64 credits. I keep forgetting to enter this
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102 points and still nothing, What is the meaning of this points :D
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More points better % chance to get a key
Example
Average User 66 credits X 3400 user / 30 keys = 7480
your points 102 / 7480 X 100= 1,36 % chance for wining a key
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Well, letting alt accounts participated its a really flawed system.
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see the "report" button on a profile? If you believe it's an alt account report it.
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How? I can't even search the names, see the full list of winners, full list of participants. And even so, the burden is in the plataform.
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then you cannot see the list of participants but assume that all of them must be alt accounts :> Sure there are some - if you spot one on Participants/reviews/anywhere - report :>
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I did spot one, he made two giveways with an orlygift key, but had no way to search for him in the site.
I don't know why you are defending even the site flaws in every complain.
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92 Credits at the end and no win :(
Well, at least I hope most of the winners enjoy this game and don't try to sell / trade it
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Yeah it could be fun even if i be able to open this game :D
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Too unlucky. Participated on almost every round but didn't win. :-( keeps being wishlisted
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30 keys per 1 hour / total 1500 keys
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