and thus I need to make a decision.
To tell the backstory, I decided to boot up my around 3.5 years old laptop which has been repaired twice in a span of around 1 year, and only those times, and got around to using it. Within less than 1 hour of boot, it suddenly started getting slower noticeably. At first, I thought it was system lag, so I went and closed some Chrome tabs. However, within 1-2 minutes of the "lag", the entire unit suddenly switched itself off. Surprised, I went to turn it on again, only to face an error message about the cooling fan.

The question is whether I should repair it again, which I'm extremely not wanting to do; or to get a new one and fuck around with Windows 8, since there doesn't seem to be anymore laptops fitted with Windows 7.

As stated, I really don't have the means to do a giveaway, so if you were expecting one, you came here disappointed.

Edit: The fan is dead, so I'll be getting a new one. Got any recommendations for brands?

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Where's the giveaway? WHERE IS THE GIVEAWAY!?

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There is none, like I said. berniedidn'tread.jpg

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We hoped to see some GIBAWAYZ IN HERE

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Gooby plz.
Eh wait, you accualy iz dolan.

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hmm i mean if you think it might just do the same thing again it might just be better to go w/ a new laptop w/ windows 8. its not that bad. i have friends who use it for gaming.

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It's not bad, but I worry about compatibility issues.

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Well as far as I know pretty much anything that works on Windows 7 should also work on Windows 8

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I'll try it out for myself, since I do have to use it anyway.

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I've had a few, namely with Saint's Row II and Robin Hood: Legend of Sherwood (the two I remember)

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Seriously, suck it up and buy a new one. You'll use the damn thing everyday. It's not like you won't get incredible value out of it. It probably just means funding 1-2 fewer Hentai games on Kickstarter. You can do it! Willpower!

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+1, let those weeabos beg elsewhere ):

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First, I hardly fund anything.
Second, I don't need to cut my regular funds for this.
Third, your post is the most illogical I've read.

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Illogical or nonsensical?

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How about both?

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illogisensical. It is a word I have just invented!

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need to fund the hentai kawaii

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Onii-chan m-my hips are moving on their own!

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\o/

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Lol

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Windows 8 is fine (8.1 lets you boot straight to desktop mode, turn off charms, etc.), and unless your laptop was top notch when you bought it you can probably get something a lot more powerful for just a few hundred bucks, which is likely not a lot more than you would pay to have it fixed.

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Back when I got it, it had the most powerful first gen Core i7, but the downside of that is the GeForce 310M. And since I have paid quite a bunch to have it fixed twice, I don't want to fix it again.
Also, I'm in Singapore. Meaning your few hundred bucks doesn't get anything decent here.

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I confess I am totally ignorant of the price of electronics in Singapore. Regardless, I think you're right to not want to fix it again. Good luck!

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Got any brands you would recommend though? That would be a big help.

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You may buy computer with windows 8 and then send it to the factory before accepting the licence so that they remove windows, they will send it back to you and you can then install any OS of your choice that you might already have, windows 7 or linux or whatever, and have the money back ( how much depends on the verion, a familly windows 8 will probably not be worth the time, i had around 70 bucks back some years ago from win 7 ).

That's practical if you are short in money and can get an OS somewhere else, possibly one you prefer. ( there are some tricks as to the eligibility etc look for it on the net )

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The problem with that method is firstly and foremostly the drivers. With the new laptops not having drivers for Windows 7, I'm stuck with Windows 8 if I want them. Also, how do you expect me to send the unit to the factory? I live in Singapore so there's no practical way to do so.

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The drivers can be gotten on the net, you might need another connection ( friend or internet cafe ). If you connect by ethernet during the install it might download and install them automatically normally, at least it does for ubuntu and mint, not sure about windows.
As to the sending back, you need to pay for the sending and they will give you the money back for this as well.

It's not practical at all, but it's useful when you are short on money or don't want to pay for an OS you already have or will not use.

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Not all of the drivers are available for Windows 7 nowadays, especially for laptops. That is my only gripe.

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Then why not use W8? It's much better W7 in pretty much all aspects...

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Depends on what aspects you mean. It bests in some, but fails in others.

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Like what? I was under impression 8.1 is overall better in every aspect, but if I am wrong I'd love a correction.

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Compatibility in some old programs is an issue.

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before i would make any decision i would open up the laptop and clean the air passages which goes to the fan.
your laptop shutted down because it overheated and mostly this is on laptops because there is a lot of dust in the air passages.
I resurrected myself 3 laptops from friends from almost death by doing this in the past so far.

also if you dont want to open it go with the hoover carefully on the air supply vents (this is not as good as to open it and clean it 100% but works also!)

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+1

just be careful with your fan, i know people who forced them a tiny bit and now althougt it all works, it makes an annoying discrete tikakakakaka noise due to friction.

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How do you go about doing that? Is there anything to take note of?
The model I have is the Fujitsu SH760 btw.

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If you want really to open it and clean it 100% try to find a "how to open it" guide for your model.
If you have it open you see usually so much dirt you just need to grab it and remove it. :)

but like I have mentioned I also often just go carefully with the hoover on the air vents so the hoover will get the dirt/dust out of it. (be gentle and carefully while doing so, also if there is too much of dirt and dust already you may have to open it to get good results)

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Guess I'm going to be taking out a vacuum cleaner for the task. A portable one should be ok, I hope.

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here is some kind of video so you can see what im talking about, though its not in english but the pictures speaks for themselves.
here

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Looks quite different from mine, since I have at least 2 compartments I can unscrew. I'll have to "wait" till I can get back to it to clean it though.

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NO NO NO! Do not use a household vacuum to clean out a computer EVER.

This is one of the quickest ways to fry components via electrostatic discharge. Clean out what you can by hand and then blow the rest out with canned air while holding the fan blades in place with a toothpick or similar to prevent damaging the fan motor. Alternatively you can buy specially designed electronics vacuums that will not give off ESD, but if you're only doing this once a can of air is probably cheaper.

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I got a portable vacuum cleaner, but I didn't use it then. I used a heck lot of tissues though.

Also, I'm in Singapore. I doubt there's compressed air cans here.

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I went about cleaning it and then testing out the fan, and found out it's dead. The laptop is as good as dead now without it.

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Which fan? or is it replaceable?

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The only fan it has, and it is replaceable. However, I don't wish to replace it least the laptop dies on me.

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If its just overheating - Disassemble and clean it but then remove the heatsinks and apply a better thermal compound, ideally carbon based. Windows 8 is fine and pretty much an identical experience to Win7 after Startisback or similar program is installed.

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Does a laptop even have heatsinks to begin with?

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Yes. What would the fan inside be blowing over if not a heatsink?

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Let's see, it would be bringing all the hot air away from all the components, since my laptop has the heat ventilation from the side, unlike conventional laptops.

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Not sure I follow. You do have a heatsink in it, that I'm sure of. Perhaps you mean its passively cooled with no fan?

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I'm joking around. I'll be taking it apart to check for dust, so I'll get back to you if I find that heatsink you are talking about.

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Anyway, When I took the fan out, all I saw under it was some metal around the same size as the fan itself. Is that the heatsink you are talking about?

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I can't find any guides to the specific model you have nor do I know enough to say whats similar. That said its relatively simple to break down most laptops. If you do decide to take it apart just take a few pictures as your doing it so you know where everything should be when reassembling it.

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rofl, no worries, if you ask the question, it means you never cleaned it, which means this is almost certainly the issue, which means your problem is easy to resolve :-)

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Having repaired it twice, I expect the insides to be relatively clean. If not, there's always that vacuum cleaner.

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You can always just install Windows 7 on your laptop. I got a laptop 5 years ago that came preinstalled with Vista, I never bothered to put 7 on it when it came out but I ended up doing it for my brother when I got a new laptop and gave him the old one. It's simple enough to do yourself. Of course there are ways to get Windows as my tutor likes to say, ahem.. off the back of a truck, but if you want to buy a legit copy you should still be able to get it online. If you do this, buy an OEM version, it'll cut the cost in half. My local home electronics store was selling Win7 home premium for something ridiculous like $250 or so, I ended up buying an OEM version from a local online computer parts place for just under $100. The main reason why the price is so different is because retail versions include both the 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows, where OEM versions you can buy separately.

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I can always install Windows 7, but the main issue will be the drivers. New Windows 8 laptops do not have proper drivers for Windows 7.

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Ive tried to repair a laptop myself once, it wasn't a success. But if buying a new one is viable, you really haven't got anything to lose by being a bit heavy handed with it. You could start off by simply removing the battery and blowing the sh1t out of it with an air compressor or something similar. If that doesn't work try and see if you can access the fan without tearing it too much apart (watch out for tiny ribbon cable connectors etc.).

Good luck.

EDIT: I have no idea about how consumer laws are in your country and how long ago the laptop was repaired, but if the same parts are affected shouldn't these be covered by the warranty?

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My warranty is long over. There is no laptop that has a 3 year factory warranty, the best is maybe 2 years for some parts.
As for air compressors, I got a vacuum, so I'll use that instead. Also, I don't really need to bother with the battery compartment. That's pretty clean.

As for your edit, the first time I repaired, it was the cracked screen. The second was for the broken power supply port.

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Removing the battery is just because the fan charges the battery with a dynamo, so you need to remove it to avoid harming the battery! A vacuum cleaner is fine, I used that myself when I had a laptop (less power, but you remove the dust instead of just relocate it somewhere else inside). Just use your hand to make an airtight connection between the vacuum cleaner and the fan duct to get a significant amount of pressure.

I realize that no laptops have that long warranty (unless you pay for insurance), I just meant that I once had the GPU die in my ~3 year old laptop, but it was under the warranty since that part had been changed within the year (weeks before the 2 year warranty expired).

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I see. Thanks for the tip.

The cooler has never been replaced once at all, so that's going to be a problem.

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Go ahead and buy a new laptop. I just want to say that most laptops that can run Windows 8 can easily run Windows 7.

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And we have a clear winner for idiocy. Do you want your prize?

11 years ago
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Sure, whats the prize?

11 years ago
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A new tag for my personal enjoyment. Want that?

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Sure.

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The best advice: Instead of taking random opinions from unqualified people online you should seek professional help/opinion from someone at a store or local computer shop. This goes to all of the other threads seeking help with PC builds and such also.

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First, warranty died. So your argument is invalid.
Second, the "random opinions" are better than what you give them credit for.
Third, just plain suck it. It's the Interwebs, so we can do what we want.

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Argument? I was trying to give you advice, just because your warranty is up doesnt mean someone qualified wont look at it or give you further advice. I wasnt hostile in the least but you clearly show it yourself.

You may regret taking opinions from random ppl online about computer repair.

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Your intentions may not have been so, but your words make it so. And I won't regret taking "opinions" from the people here.

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well.. sorry to offend you

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I'm not offended, but the "random ppl" you said about may be.

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so your not offended but could be and you began by telling me to "suck it".

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Telling people to suck it doesn't mean I'm offended. It's just my way of telling people to just MYOB if you don't like it. And it's morning here, so not really.

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troll harder

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Yes please. Please troll harder.

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and faster

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and stronger

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look, you are were immediately hostile over my comment but it was in fact legitimate advice cause I worried about your machine & that you may follow bad advice. I even apologized incase i had caused offense.

You should just suck it as well.

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You really don't have to worry about the machine. I did say it's 3.5 years old, didn't I?

Depends on what it is.

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This sounds similar to a problem I fixed in a friend's laptop. Does it start at all in safe-mode? If so it could be the processor's power management is dead.

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Doesn't start in safe mode, so it ain't the processor. In fact, it shuts off when trying to boot Windows.
I also notice the air current is slow.

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Disassemble and clean it ? change cooler (not that hard to find replacement).
Buy new one, without pre installed OS.

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I'll first try cleaning it. I don't wish to change the cooler if it doesn't work.
Hard to find one without a pre-installed OS here.

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i hear you,i have the same problem with mine -.- you need to open it and clean it once a year at least,or if you dont know how to do it like me,go to a professionist..if it turnes off by itself you have to do it now,that is the safe system of your laptop that when it reaches an high temperature,it turnes off by its own for not get damages. (i got all these info from a professionist)

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I'll get on it when I get back to where it is, which will be quite some time(at least 7-8 hours).

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The fan is dead, so there's nothing left to help it without repairs, which I won't do.

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When a cooler fails, CPU get hotter and process are very slow. If his temperature keep raising, it autoshutdown to prevent more damage. Try to do a repair (by your own) for the cooler and maybe could revive.

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I'll just try a cleaning. If that doesn't work, I'll just give up on it and get a new one.

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The fan is dead, so I'll give up on it.

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Why not replace it and sell it? Then you can DIYS?

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First, I need the mobility the laptop provides.
Second, I don't have the expertise to DIY laptops.

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I had similar issues with an Acer 5750g and eventually had to give up on it (died twice under warranty and again a couple of months after the warranty expired), all related to the thermic module/cooling. I strongly suspect that it's an issue with the design, now they use cheap plastic for the casing to make the laptops as thin and lightweight as possible but they aren't sturdy enough to handle the heat anymore (mine came with an i7 processor and a gt 540m). When I was pressing on the awsd keys I could feel the keyboard pushing down against the components inside. Never had any issue with my previous "non-gaming" laptops with integrated graphics but the casing was sturdy as fuck. If you get a new one I'd recommend to at least take a look at it in a store first if you plan to buy it online but overall a desktop computer would probably be a better idea if you're not constantly travelling.

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Acer sucks. I had a few. They all burned ( two literally, albeit i pushed them hard )

They have overheating issues. It's noted by many if you check reviews.

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I had never had any issue with the 2 Acer laptops I owned before this one and I bought this last one when it was still new so there weren't many user reviews around at the time and thus no reason to be suspicious. Which brand would you recommend?

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My Acer 5745g was notorious for overheating. I had to plug in a usb fan and keep the laptop raised off the table to allow airflow. Without the fan, the laptop would always shutdown.

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Mine has a sturdy casing, but that's not much point anymore. Anyway, I got local shops for buying the laptops, so I don't have to worry about going online for that.

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Windows 8 is fine once you get the hang of it.

That said if its still a decent PC try to fix it, not sure how much that would cost but if you don't want to buy a new computer its worth a shot.

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The entire fan stopped working. It's as good as fucked.

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Just buy a new one. Your laptop is old enough and you have already repaired it twice. Even if you do manage to repair it now, I doubt it will stay put for long. You will eventually buy a new laptop, and that will be using Windows 8 (or even newer OS if there's another). So I strongly recommend an entirely new laptop.

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My sediments also. I don't wish to have to repeat it for the number of times that has the same number as GabeN's unspoken number.

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thanks for skyrim

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Seems you've set your mind on replacing the laptop instead of the fan. Also if you have money to spare why don't you set a budget before asking here? (The fan might or might not be replaceable).

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A 3.5 year old laptop won't last much longer even if I do swap the fan. Also, the main reason why I don't set a budget but rather ask for brands is mainly because I'm in Singapore, not the USA.
I do know the fan is replaceable though.

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do you use these? You have to use 'em if you want your laptop to last.

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My laptop's pretty unique in the sense that it can't use conventional laptop coolers. The heat ventilation is at the side as opposed to most from the underside. There is no one cooler that actually does the same thing.

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Just get a new one

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Did you read the entire post?

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Yes?

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"Edit: The fan is dead, so I'll be getting a new one. Got any recommendations for brands?"
If you had really read it at the point of time I stated, you would have noticed the change.

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from the sounds of it, your laptop is overheating and needs to have the heatsink cleaned. buy some new thermal paste and reapply for optimal results, although you can still kind of leave the old stuff on and not peel it off as you remove the heatsink for cleaning

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It's not an overheat. It's the problem that the fan is not working already, thus the heat is retained inside.

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Anyone got a good brand?

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Buy a Mac.

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Overpriced, and definitely not meant for gaming.

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Neither is a laptop.

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Touché.

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Depends on the parts. I heard there's a GeForce GTX 780M for the laptops.

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Still, laptops aren't the ideal environment for gaming. They lack the cooling to keep the components alive.

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I know. Still, I do need the mobility they offer. Desktops still can't and probably never will be able to do so.

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