Sales perhaps. Besiege hasn't had any to my knowledge.
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Could it be Russians have stockpiled the gifts before they were all region locked?
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Because Space Engineers have 4-packs and the gifts from packs are ROW, so a Russian trader can buy a 4-pack for $18-20 and sell the 3 gifts for 9 keys.
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Yes. The 4-packs are region-locked BUT the 3 gifts you get from open the pack are ROW.
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Yesterday I got Medieval Engineers from a Russian trader, so the glitch works AFAIK.
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i doubt that's a bug. am i supposed to have friends only from my region? what's the use of multipacks if they will be locked?
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nonsense, otherwise all gifts would have no locks
i can buy a single gift for a friend because i want him to play with me
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just because valve is doing some things bullcrap that doesn't mean they must go full retard.
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i might be missing something here, why would they lock single copies and not extra copies? o.O
extra copies are cheaper and almost everytime friends are from same country
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because you can buy countless of single copies but once you have the game in your library, you're done with its mulipack. locking single copies already stopped most of the trades. sure they can fully stop it buy locking (i'm not using "fixing". you can't fix something not broken or not a bug.) extra gifts from multipacks, but then they would go full retard (never go full retard.) by telling people to have friends only from their regions.
extra copies are cheaper and almost everytime friends are from same country
well, i have some turkish people in my friends list -if they didn't unfriend me- but i lack to see the difference between you and them since almost all of my friends -if not all of them- on steam are people from steamgifts and steamtrades.
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you can create more accounts to buy more packs and move them to your main, and that's what they are probably doing.
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the only thing i can see out of there is alt-accounts, before new games purchased as gift were trade locked for 30 days, now it doesn't matter
i'm not sure if steam does something to block CC's on other accounts but i doubt it :\/
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banana is right, they only fix some exploited ones, like the dying light one
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they fixed buying 4-packs as a gifts, you can still buy a 4pack if you don't have the game yet, and will still have 3 ROW gifts, you just cannot keep buying packs with the same account.
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Of course. But you can buy multiple packs and split them with other users/traders, then, these users/traders can send you the ROW gifts via email.
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No, as zelghadis just said, they fixed that. You can no longer buy the pack and send it to someone else. You have to add it to your own account and you can't do that more than once.
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honestly i think that steam just don't fix that because they miss the money provided by russian traders :P
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i don't think besiege is expensive...
wait, are you trolling, right?
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I think he's mostly referring to its trade value related to other more expensive games
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That's the funny thing with trading, now being more of a reseller myself, I'm always told my prices are too high.
Lowering them means I don't even break even so...yeah.
Taste the logic, or just buy it off the store. Besiege is worth the cash anyhow.
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+1
It's only 6.99. With what that game currently has in it. I don't see how someone can complain at that price. It's perfect. You're probably getting more than what's being charged anyway.
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The game is amazingly amazing and full of amazingness. Get the game. Now. Now. NOW. TRADE IT NOW. NOW. NOWWWWWWWW.
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Because Besiege game is in new meta,popular one,so people who can't buy via Steam wallet or real money will overpay using keys and Space Engineers is cheap because of being quite old.BTW why does "Medieval Engineers" even exist in Steam?! They have Space Engineers still in early access and started to develope another "only early access" game?So they don't want to finish any of their games,leaving them in alpha,beta,gamma,epsilon versions?
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The developement of Medieval Engineers is done by a separate Team belonging to the studio. They said that before. They also said both Teams won't interfere but rather could combine their knowledge and experience with the developement to improve both games.
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those people who sell Space Engineers for 2-3 keys are from russia and the gift is from a 4-pack (and as you know games are dirt cheap in the Russian store)
however there is no 4-pack for besiege and a single gift is region-locked in Russia,Indonesia,etc.so the only other_ROW_option that would be cheaper than US-EU stores is the Canadian store = 3 keys = $6
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"Expensive"
It's a brand new game, wasn't on sale before, and it's only a few bucks. It's totally worth it in my opinion.
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3 keys? Expensive?
What do you play your games on? A second hand sandwich toaster?
Have you considered an alternative hobby?
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You may want to "borrow" a copy from a friend or get the drm free version to try it out first to see if you will actually like the game, quite a few people play it for a bit and then never come back.
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its like 7 bucks, for fuck sake. If its that expensive to you then you may want to find yourself another hobby than pc gaming.
just how cheap some people can get? be happy its not priced at 40 or 50 bucks
lets not take the whole mobile gaming mentality where there is hardly any good game since people got the habit of not paying than a handful of bucks per game
Im sorry but this mentality is just sad, plain and simply. If you would enjoy working for a couple of cents, good for ya, doesnt mean devs have too because people got so cheap lately.
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His main question though was why do people ask 3 keys for it in trades while they ask the same fr Space Engineer that's pricier. This is just a lack of understanding of trading mechanics on his part.
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I don't find it expensive but I still can't afford it :D
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me neither atm :P saving up for a new rig, need all the cash I can spare
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Well as far as i know we call it as common sense:PBesiege looks awesome though
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Why is Besiege so expensive ? It costs 6,99€ on steam and people want 3 Keys for the game. And Space Engineers, for example costs 22,99€ and people also want 3 Keys for it... I don't get how that is possible..
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