Heh.The sultan's officials are saying that the coup is already "crushed",yet there is still fighting in Ankara,the borders are closing,air traffic is null and the premier is screaming bloody murder against the coup's airforces?
Yeah,I call BS.
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It's just that it's weird that the heavily-armed army would just surrender to unarmed citizens in order to face execution afterwards. This is either plain propaganda or the whole coup is fishy. No matter who's going to win, I doubt that this is going to end well.
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We told you man, at first it looked serious but after a while it was obvious.
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Yeah,its either just official propaganda (which is extremely likely due to most of that info coming from the premier or the loyalist intelligence service) or the army went full retard and pulled the same crap as the forces loyal to the soviet State Committee on the State of Emergency (entered Moscow,then ran away without accomplishing anything).
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You can't exactly claim "we do this for the people" then gun them all down.
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Baghdad Bob must've found residence in Istanbul after being thrown out of Iraq.
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Ha!I knew the bastard reminded me of someone!I wonder if we can expect something on the level of "Filthy traitors and infidels are killing themselves by the divisions in front of the presidential palace!".
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This is retarded , coup over. HE landed. Army just stayed still over some unarmed citizens . If they were in my country , you'd just get run over by the tank
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And your country would be carpetbombed by an international coallition. Hello Assad btw.
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TGNA building after the explosion: https://twitter.com/draliseker/status/754104423056629760/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Soldiers are inside the CNN Turk studio.
Turkish Armed Forces website reports that they have complete control over the country.
(source: Reddit)
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The army staging the coup probably. :P Here's a photo, but I don't speak Turkish sadly.
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Well, it's not obviously not over, but it's been reported as "unsuccessful".
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Here's the translation of what's written in the site (found it from reddit): http://pastebin.com/pfnxm3Up
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CNN Turk reporting live military takeover of their building in Istanbul. https://twitter.com/CeylanWrites/status/754110342666543104
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Just when sultan Mickey Mouse has landed.
If those are troops loyal to the coup,then Erdo is in deep shit.
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Most media are using propaganda, so I'm still trying to understand what's true and what isn't. But it's true that CNN Turk got emptied, because I saw a live video of it.
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Large Explosion Heard At Istanbul's Airport. https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/754115168871776256
Erdogan is supposed to be there.
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Mastermind of Erdoğan's presidential election campaign, Erol Olçak & his 16-year-old son killed by coup soldiers on Bosphorus bridge.
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So THATS who the troops blew away?
Shame about the kid,though.
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Blew? I don't know how exactly they killed them. Except if you're talking about my previous comment, which is a different one. Military jets and tanks have been reported near Instanbul's airport, but no news about what has been done yet.
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There was a report a bit back that soldiers opened fire on civies on the bridge.So I'm guessing that they had orders to take this guy out.
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https://www.facebook.com/muslu.apo.5/videos/10206802027074835/
Correction: This is taking place in front of the Army Headquarters in Ankara. The guy is trying to find medical personnel and ambulance for the wounded.
WARNING NSFW.
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For gore I'm guessing? I'm not going to look right now because I'm a little shaken but if it's not too bad..
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Jesus, I was hoping it wouldn't end up getting this bad..
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It shows dead people. :/ But, in reddit, they said: THESE VIDEOS ARE NSFL AND UNCORMFIRMED TO BE TURKISH ARMED FORCES.
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That was real bad - as bad as it gets for those poor sods. Looked like civilians from the way they were dressed and the damage was from worse than small arms fire. Hoping this is over without any more of that.
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I agree that this entire scenario is horrible... but on the other hand martial law and curfews where declared 4 hours ago. I don't think this coup is good or anything, but if I see soldiers in my town and martial law and curfews are enforced, the last thing I would do is leave the building. This happens when stupidity meets violence.
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It's difficult when stuff is happening. I fortunately haven't been involved in anything like that but I've been out in rioting when the sensible option would have been to hide. A whole bunch of things go through your head and you just end up feeling you should be doing something, and then you end up thinking that you should have been hiding behind the sofa. And at least I got to regret my choices rather than end up spread all over the floor like that...
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The people were told not to leave their homes but Erdoğan urged everyone to go outside and oppose the soldiers. These people are indeed stupid but you can't expect much more from the supporters of Erdoğan. He literally sent them to their deaths. He should be put in jail for that alone but that's never going to happen.
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It is.Bunch of people that apparently ended up on the wrong side of explosive rounds.
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Erdogan going to do a press announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
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"Clean up the army"?
Yup,if the army regiments surrender-they are as good as dead.
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Obviously. :P If Erdogan wins, he'll just kill anyone he likes by accusing them being traitors.
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He said that Gulen's supporters did the coup. He just wants to crush the opposition. ;P He also said that they traitors will pay a heavy price.
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Looking to be that way. If this does push for any kind of a political change at all - I hope it is in the hands of the people by election.
And, that goes without saying that it should also be without bloodshed!
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it looks like military are walking friendly with police guys
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There are reports that Erdogan lied about the explosions in Mugla and Marmaris.
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If he lied and the coup was an inside job he certainly is a new Hitler... Too many similarities :( Propaganda, Terror and Violence against Opponents, Control of Media, Fake attacks.... it just looks likes we don't learn from history
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Well, nobody knows, but now people will give him the "right" to kill anyone he wants, just by accusing them being traitors.
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Insha'llah, my Brothers and Sisters in Turkey will be fine and there will be an improvement in their situation. Aameen.
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Inshallah and aameen! / In Jesus name, Amen!
May there be peace in the nation and in the hearts of its people.
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hate to say it but this coup in Turkey sounds a bit set up by Erdogan
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Of course. Turkey has woken up to a coup twice in its history. We know exactly how it happens. This isn't it.
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whatever the case stuff like this is retarded (with media outlets on board-despite pretending not to be) & innocents pay the price
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I'm terrified for my friend over there. Last I heard from her was right before everything started up and my whole evening has just been me feeling sick while staring at the news and finally making myself stop looking.
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Excellent summary of what's going on in Turkey:
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Yeah this is the summary of yesterday's situation. If it's staged, its sad to see how many people are still blindly following him. If it's not, then it's an unsuccessful coup which means even army can't make them gone and they will not go away until death or something. Believe me, both possibilities are terrible.
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It wasn't coup by army itself thats why it is not succesful. They were small grop. I am not sure about staged part or not but what I wanna say that ofcourse they weren't gonna succeed, no support from Turkish Army Force, all those statements made in national channel were fake, just bunch of soldiers that invaded channel
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That's right. Now, I am trying to understand why this group tried something like that. Even a child could predict that they won't be successful.
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Cause nothing quite makes goodwill among people and international community than a bloodbath. If they did that they probably would be bombed to smithereens by the US and Russia combined.
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If you're doing a coup you obviously do think about what the results will be. A slaughter of civilians will not forward any goals set forth. You do have to live together afterwards, and if your regime is known to be a bloodthirsty dictatorship, good luck NOT getting repercussions from everywhere and probably an invasion of your own by another army.
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"But we said stay inside" is not really something holding water when being trialled for warcrimes. And no, you can't just take civilianstatus away from civilians when it's deemed convient to do so.
NATO is to protect countries. The army isn't the rulefull leader of said country so NATO has full mandate to actually move in and mop them up to protect the safety of Europe. Just saying. They are fairly unlikely to do so, but massive civilian slaughter is one sure way to make it happen.
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Well, a lot of people think NATO actually would have preferred for the coup to succeed. An invasion in that case would be very unlikely.
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I'm fairly sure they would.
But they can't really close their eyes to a civilian mass-slaughter if that were happening.
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Ofc they can't. But instead of invading they can give long boring speeches and add useless sanctions.
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Except it wasn't statement from Turkish Army Force but a little group who took control of national television. So just because bunch of people take control of TV and said they took control of the Country, it doesn't mean they actually did. And generals were already saying its fake. Coup is going and all other channels giving TV series, and full internet access. Coup my ass.
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It's a shame, this might have been a good chance to get rid of that islamistic asswipe Erdogan. On the other hand, I have also heard that the whole coup thing migh've been staged to perform "clearings" inside army.
Don't let them turks into EU wo visas anyways!
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Turkey and Erdogan will remain strong! faark the haters. ;)
people dont know shit outside Turkey. this coup is set up from a terrorist named Fetullah he is a imam who wants to be the leader. its a small group of army who he had in his power. so luckily its over!
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Well,this is disappointing.Guess the army really did chicken out.They could have put the ottoman resurgency and that P.O.S. Erdo down for good,yet they buckled when they should have went all-out.A damn shame.
And I highly doubt that this is an "act".An "act" doesn't result in hundreds of corpses and actual street battles in the capital.
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Also gotta love how the western MSM's spin on this is "army attempts to overthrow democracy in Turkey".
Yet another example of how brutal dictators,terrorist or fascist trash are the "good guys" to the western world.
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Or maybe we just have no fucking idea of the group behind the coup? Even considering Erdogan is a fucking dictator, no way to tell for a outsider whether it would have actually been an improvement.
If reports are true and it was Fetulah the one behind the thing, then good fucking riddance, the world doesn't need any more religious leaders in places of power.
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Its not guaranteed to be a bad thing,either.Egypt and Thailand had military coup's,and apart from an increase in terror attacks in Egypt (which is expected when you are overthrowing a bunch of islamist rats that want to send state troops to assist their brothers in Syria),the situation is overall stable.
But isn't Fetulah pretty much an irrelevant immigrant hobo at this point and is simply there to be blamed by Erdogan for his own misfortunes?The coup was apparently staged by a bunch of military and MIA officers and it looks like a mix of Stauffenberg's and the old Union's SCSE's failed coups.
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But isn't Fetulah pretty much an irrelevant immigrant hobo at this point and is simply there to be blamed by Erdogan for his own misfortunes?
As far as anyone outside Turkey knows, yes. (Is the guy even alive, by the way? Because although he is supposed to be behind some massive events, I don't think I recall anyone actually seeing/talking to him for a while…))
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Seems so.Reports claim that he denied his involvement in this mess.In fact,he apparently immediatly took the "I'm against the coup against democracy (jfc,this phrase makes me cringe so much)" stance.
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Or, well, when you see that people in other countries really wished the Turkish president (although at this rate he could be called El Presidente) removed from seat, then mayba, MAYBE it could be that the local propaganda is just a tad lying and the rest of the world want him gone with a reason.
On the plus side, Turkish people soon most likely will have a lot in common with the residents of the Russian Federation. You can exchange stories on how the big, bad evil Western world wants you benevolent lifelong presidents gone, and it must be true because said president said so.
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Just call him what he truly is-an ottoman sultan.
Shitty comparison with the RF/Eurasia,as the west never hid the fact that they would prefer to have Putin's head on a spike (are we seriously going to play the "denial of the undeniable" game here),while Mickey Mouse has been the USA's BFF for years and got targeted by his own janissaries.
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Well, Erdogan is on a good path to become as much liked on the West as Putin is, at this rate. Especially if he really goes the hardcore Islamist way. Not even Hillary would be able to defend that in the Congress and Senate, even if by some miracle they finally get rid of most of the Republicans.
(Although I still would like to think the thought process: "Hey, most of the first-world countries are in a renewed state of Islamophobia, anti-Islamic parties are slowly becoming second or first largest political parties… So now it is the time to ask to be a part of the EU while adopting the banner of Islam!"
Erdogan a few years back didn't seem like some utterly incompetent, flat-out blatantly idiot mini-Führer who would do something this obviously retarded.)
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Love how people know the shitty situation we are in and they still wish for worse.....
A coup is NEVER good. Especially a coup from an islamic leader.
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not successful. just seen the news on TV. the solders got in a caught TV Station and citizens beat the crap out of them. despite the workers trying to let them move away, the whole thing is a miss.
and everyone of them has death penalty for that
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Just saying, the turkey army fleet and the bulgarian are having training atm in black sea. Our goverment (bul) decided to side with the Turkish goverment instead of the military (not on official paper), you should be wondering if the Turkish navi will try to do something atm in black sea after this ^^
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idk... like "Hey guys, our experiment last night was fun, now lets use all are force, we saw who's with us and who not! BOMB THE BULGARIAN FLEET! BOMB THE ROMANIAN FLEET! KILL THE AMERICAN SOLDERS ON THE BEACH TRAINING! KILL EM ALL!"
just an example... You never know what's inside someone's head, that last night was too easy for a military act... It's was just a test if you ask me...
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More than 2839 people have been detained and more than 1440 were wounded. Around 161 dead people and among those dead were police officers, soldiers, civilians, and more than 100 described as “coup plotters.”
(source: Foxnews)
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Of all the sources you could pick, you chose Fox News? :P
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It was saying the same in multiple sites. xD And why do you hate Foxnews? Not like I know it, but I know it's famous. :P
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It's kinda well known for being an inaccurate news source. Then again, I don't read/watch the news so maybe that's just bullshit.
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Inaccurate? no, conservative biased yes. Fox news is one of the few news outlets that's right wing where as most other news sources ( NBC, CBS, ABC) all tend to be liberal and push left wing agendas.
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They are conservatives who like to push right-wing propaganda and their news are not always accurate or are heavily biased because they care more about what their conservative viewers want to hear, rather then what's actually true.
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Just watch Bulgarian news, it was literally 30 mins about Turkey 19 about France and 10 seconds about Bulgaria... "Bulgarian news"...
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+1 ... getting your news from Fox is the worst and most biased source of information available in the 'free world' ... then again, they ain't free because they are owned and controlled by rich arses
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they ain't free because they are owned and controlled by rich arses
I like this human.He understands!
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I wonder what the count will be after the purge, as this situation will be most certainly used to settle some scores and to knock out even more the opposition.
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It's all over the news and they're saying that something like a coup is happening and that the turkish army is responsible. Just wondering if someone from Turkey could enlighten me about this matter. o.O
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