So another hard drive just died, and with it my game keys file. I have a 2 week old backup, but I'll have to retrace the keys used for giveaways, ungiftable keys given (including contributed ones), I'll also need to add keys from bundles I bought since. In short, a lot of headache, but not a totally impossible project.

My conclusion: I need a better backup scheme. Something that works daily and is fully automated. Suggestions are welcome!

Learn from my mistake people, and do what is needed to regularly backup your important files (not only your keys file of course).

A giveaway is coming later today, once I figure out which keys weren't already used.
Edit: It took a week and I'm still figuring things out, so here (key from a new bundle, so should be safe).

8 years ago*

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Do you use an automated backup solution?

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Dan Quayle handles this for me. I'm all good!

I keep my keys in a Google Docs spreadsheet. Cloud computing! (All my other data is vulnerable to loss.)

8 years ago*
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I also do this now :) such a nice way of doing it because you can access it anywhere you are logged in, and don't have to worry about hardrives crashing and loosing aaaaaaal those keys

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I'm a huge fan of SpiderOak's zero knowledge online backup solution (they can't decrypt your files), but the interface is horrendous. If you're not worried about the site operators or hackers getting at your uploaded files, something like Dropbox, OneDrive, or Google Docs works well enough.

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As suggested above - google docs :> I do the same for all my key lists, spreadsheets etc. Also you can add 2 factor phone verification for your google account if you're afraid of keeping your keys online cause someone may steal them ;) This way you can also access your keys from anywhere using any device/system whenever you want without need to DL some soft on new machine to access your stuff.

8 years ago
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I use dropbox for any important file, I also have 2 hard drives, I doubt both will decide to die at the same time.

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not so impossible - power surge from faulty PSU or from your electric system due to storm for example can easilly fry them both as well as some others parts of your PC ;)

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If you're not using a proper surge protector for your computer, you're playing it risky to begin with. :/

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I am using external power strip with included surge protection as well as my in-home electric system has it's own surge protection, but no form of surge protection is flawless (especially to extremelly high power surge that may happen during storm - I got some parts of my PC fried just once exactly during storm, and my power strip didn't save me from it. Luckilly I have home insurace with bought extra insurance for hardware failing due to electric surges (the extra option costs only like 8-10$ a month, so I always take it) and it covered all damaes back then.

Also as most people use external power surge protection (idk if there's any form of internal protection besides basic protection built into almost every PSU) if the source of surge is not external (like a storm) but internal (faulty PSU) you are still at risk even with best quality external protection ;) It is very unlikely to happen, but can happen. Same as many other things that are unlikely to happen but may happen - that's why you should do external backups no matter what forms of different protection you use ;)

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Electric storms that f*ck up the electric system are pretty common here, but my PSU has never failed me, but I have been considering buying an external hdd for back up.

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just keep in mind that if your external HDD remains connected to your PC it may also get damaged due to surge ;)

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So another hard drive just died

Definitively, or just won't boot up?
Often you can get them to work a bit longer through an external or secondary mount, once they stop booting.

If not.. eeych, that always sucks. :/
I think the actual moral here has less to do with backing up individual files, and more either with (regularly backing up your harddrive in full) or (using cloud storage for files).

8 years ago
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rsync is perfect for stuff like this, you can even have multiple computers with the file. (Downside is you need a server)

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I've been down that road. No more. Crashplan for the win.

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There's literally zero reason to backup manually.

Use thing like Dropbox. That saves time for many important files. Cloud is the best.

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Hell no. I would never store a bunch of game keys online. If it ever gets hacked into, whether while in the cloud or during transmission, you can kiss them all goodbye. With all the security breaches we see these days don't fool yourself into thinking it's not possible.

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Not possible? Of course no.

Likely to happen to that simple particular key file? Probably astronomically possible.

If Cloud were so weak, Enterprise wouldn't be doing Cloud nowadays.

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If you use good security measures, such as 2-step authentication etc., then it's extremely unlikely that you'll get hacked. Use a trustworthy service like Google and you'll be set (I wouldn't trust Dropbox, their security record is terrible).

The likelihood of you encountering problems with your local backups or drive failure, is far more probable than anything else.

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I don't have a lot of keys. Also use them immediately - either activate or create GA. I remember couple of occasions when I wanted to create GA but I was waiting too long and game became free in the meantime xD
In rare situations when I want to activate them much later - I just print my keys xD Not really automatic :)

8 years ago
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I have OneDrive and Google Drive installed on my pc, so any file in those 2 folders will get uploaded to the internet automatically. Never lost any file since then.

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Aye, you can just send a polite email to the NSA and ask if they can send you a copy if you lose something. :p

8 years ago
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Backblaze works fairly well and is reasonably priced. Only thing is the client isn't very configurable.

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I use Google Keep - another cloud solution

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Thanks for the advice! Done.

8 years ago
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Google drive it's good: https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive

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Sorry to hear that, Yirg.
I keep my files on Dropbox.
Automatically backed up, easy to access from anywhere. Free.

8 years ago
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I backup my files, but it's not automated. I alternate between two drives and backup at least once a week. I don't use any fancy software, just a custom script using Windows' built in command line tool robocopy.

8 years ago
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so i keep stick on usb pendrive 1gb only for plain text or docs :being this paranoic:

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Add encryption if you wanna be extra paranoid ;)

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yeah but encryption implies more passwords to remember D:
i have files of files contains tons of passwords of passwords D:
D: D: D:
:alzheimer:

8 years ago
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GoodSync for automated backup. And/or cloud. I have all my documents stored on two clouds and three HDDs.

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I use OneNote since it comes with Windows 10.

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I once lost way more important files than that. My laptop got stolen, along with my external HDD (it was a house-burglary).

Now I am paranoid.

1 - An exact duplicate of important personal files like photos, video, music collections. internal HDD.
2 - An exact duplicate in external WD Harddisk.
3 - Important documents in Google Drive.
4 - A CrashPlan subscription.

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I have my keys.7z on the Google Drive

8 years ago
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Still figuring out which keys weren't used. Thanks for all the comments so far.

Oh, and here's a giveaway since I promised and didn't deliver.

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SET COUNTER=0
:loop
SET /a COUNTER=%COUNTER%+1
XCOPY "C:\Keys.txt*" "D:\Keys_%COUNTER%.txt" /i /s
PING 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 86400000 > NUL
goto loop

You can replace Keys.txt with a directory if you'd like, I've included the arguments with it.

This will copy Keys.txt to Keys_1.txt on another drive. 24-hours later it'll copy Keys.txt to Keys_2.txt to the same drive as before. Make sure that if you close the command prompt or reboot your PC, you edit SET COUNTER=0 to be the same number as the last backup.

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Yirg, I use FreeFileSync and run it silently every 24 hours as a batch job (keys.txt copied/updated onto a 2nd drive with one task, and also onto a USB thumb drive with another for redundancy). Best solution I've found for hassle-free offline backups. I'm just too paranoid to use Google.

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Windows has since 7 even a built in option, people really should at least use this. I use it besides manual backups. I have my files on 3 different spots.

Windows is able to backup your libraries up to every 10 minutes, just create a new library and add your wanted folders in that library.

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