My condolences for the victims, btw i am a muslim and i condemn those terrorist attack.
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Don't ISIS know France lost the Euro final? That loss was probably more devastating than any attack!
Seriously though, I'm not even surprised anymore. Attacks have been occuring in Iraq, Turkey and Bangladesh within the last couple of months. It will only get worse ):
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Not to be all SJW on you, but as someone who's actually portuguese, i didn't find that 1st paragraph of yours even the slightest bit amusing. :/
I'm all for black/gallows humor as the next guy, but there's a time and place for everything, no?
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Kill yourself, fascist. It'll save us time and we won't be merciful when we do.
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Wat. In your post below this you accuse capitalism and imperialism to be the root of the problem, here you use the term "fascist" as an isult. You seem to be a bit confused
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No, I'm not, though you apparently are. Capitalism and imperialism are integral components of fascism. Fascism as an ideology is a militant and counterrevolutionary reaction to revolutionary movements whose function is to preserve capitalism. Due to the nature of fascist ideology, fascists are extremely prone to promoting imperialist endeavors to enslave, oppress, subjugate, and exterminate people of other nations and nationalities, especially those who do not fit their racialized hierarchy and conception of supremacism.
And by the way, I was using "fascist" as a description, not as an insult. While it may also be insulting to some to be described as much, I can guarantee you that fascists take it as a compliment. My goal is not to insult or compliment anyone by using the term, but to describe their sociopolitical ideology.
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First, it would help your cause if you'd stop being such a keyboard warrior (I am talking about all your posts here)! - nobody is your enemy here, they are just stating their (civil) opinion just like you're doing (only that you actually insult people). This subject is rather complex and good or bad, everyone has a side of this story: from the person who fears that he or a loved one can be a victim of the next attack made by a muslim who was born and raised in France, to the innocent muslim born and raised in France who fears that people will focus their hatred towards him even tho he might be a victim of the next attack as well, to the terrorist who does what he does because he thinks that it's the correct way to avenge the horrible things his country suffered in the recent past at the hand of those nations. I am neither of those people, but I fear that if I was in the shoes of any of them I'd think the same way each of them do.
Also, one can think that some cultures are not compatible without being the spawn of Satan.
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You can go fuck yourself if you're going to condescendingly chide me for being a "keyboard warrior" or whatever petty insult you prefer to use. Fascists and reactionaries are my enemy and I will not, under any circumstance, show respect to them when they are openly promoting their fascist and reactionary views. Such individuals deserve to be lined up and shot, not treated with dignity and respected for their "right" to hold such views, because that is precisely what they would do to people like you and me if they had the opportunity.
It is not merely a "(civil) opinion" to speak of a fifth of the Earth's population as if they are subhuman degenerates who should be snuffed out from existence, or to speak of refugees and immigrants as foreign invaders trying to undermine the spooky identities of far-right reactionaries. If you consider those to be mere civil opinions, then your sympathetic condonance of such thought renders you complicit in their agenda.
Having said that, do you have anything specific and worthwhile to contribute to this discussion, or are you just going to speak down to me and peddle some vague commentary of marginal relevance to the exchange you're joining? If you meant no disrespect, then I apologize for the hostility, but I don't take kindly to reactionaries and their apologists.
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You insult yourself with every phrase you write.
I am staying my ground: it's easy to judge others when you are not in their situation, and one can disagree with you without being the spawn of devil. Thinking that different cultures don't blend well together is a valid concern and this doesn't make one the spawn of devil either. Thinking that everyone that disagrees with you should be killed however is horrible.
PS: I didn't state my opinion toward the subject, all I said is that you should cool down with the insults, especially when the other side was polite to you.
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You insult yourself with every phrase you write.
Do you have any other cryptic nonsense to say, or are you done with shitposting weak retorts which don't even make sense?
I am staying my ground: it's easy to judge others when you are not in their situation, and one can disagree with you without being the spawn of devil. Thinking that different cultures don't blend well together is a valid concern and this doesn't make one the spawn of devil either. Thinking that everyone that disagrees with you should be killed however is horrible.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. If I need any more vague aphorisms, I'll crack open a fortune cookie.
I didn't state my opinion toward the subject, all I said is that you should cool down with the insults, especially when the other side was polite to you.
I don't respect fascists and reactionaries, or those who sympathize and apologize for them. I don't care if a fascist is the most polite person on the Earth, if they advocate for the mass subjugation and genocide of entire peoples and promote a physical agenda which directly threatens me and my interests, then their gentility is nothing more than a meaningless front to obscure an untenable ideology and should therefore receive nothing but scorn and disdain.
If you want to kiss up to fascists and reactionaries, I suggest going to StormFront or somewhere else where they usually congregate. You can serve as one of their kindly house liberals.
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Keep your patronizing salutations to yourself. People who shadow-blacklist others for calling them out on their nonsense don't usually care if the person they shadow-blacklisted has a "good day".
Get lost. Next time, try to not be so condescending.
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I blacklisted you 2 hours ago when you started insulting people, cowboy! Don't worry, you're not missing anything and I don't enter the giveaways of those I blacklist.
It's actually kind of funny how you don't understand that I did not state my opinion on this and I am not arguing with you, I only said that you should keep it civil. It's also kind of funny how you assume a lot of things, but it never occurred to you that I live in a different culture in which when you want to politely end a discussion with someone you salute him.
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I completely understand what you're doing, and I called you out on it. You're disingenuously appealing to civility while simultaneously patronizing me with insults and defending the uncivil and extremely hostile remarks of fascists and reactionaries. You have no real interest in civility; you're just using it as a pretense for chiding me on my behavior and defending the indefensible. At least have the integrity to admit what you're actually doing, coward.
It's also kind of funny how you assume a lot of things, but it never occurred to you that I live in a different culture in which when you want to politely end a discussion with someone you salute him.
This is a common part of Western culture in general, including the United States (where I live). You are trying to personalize this issue by acting as if I'm not respecting your "culture", which is nonsense. In reality, you're just trying to make excuses for the fact that your insincere salutation was little more than false gentility for the purposes of pretending you have a behavioral high ground that you don't really occupy.
Like I said before, get lost. I don't respect those who talk down to me, especially when they do so in a patronizing way under the pretense of kindness and concern. Your act might hoodwink some people, but I see right through that façade.
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Wow, just WOW.
Fascism (speaking about the italian one) has been a revolutionary movement born as a anti-capitalism movement in response to the liberal-imperialism pushing from from the west and the soviet socialism pushing from east. Italy as it is now can only DREAM the socialist reform realized on those years, with much peace for the left wankers alleged neo marxist out there, to blind and exalted to see that the only social reform this country have see, has seen them only during those 20 years.
Is not a coincidence that many author put the fascist movement under a left-wing ideology. That would be even more true for the italian one as there were many leftist politican whos support the fascism and Mussolini. One of them was Antonio Bombacci, close friend of Mussolini (which was a socialist, if you care) and noless the founder of the PCI (italian communist party).
If you care,
here is "Faccette Nere"
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=faccette+nere
(just so you know that fascism and racism are not related by any chance, and those that say that are idiots)
and the manifesto which declared human slavery outlaw in Etiopia
Apologize for my english
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Even Italian fascism was never revolutionary. It attempted to present itself as much, as did the Nazis, Strasserites, and Falangists, but that was nothing more than a dishonest (or sincere but delusional) attempt at appropriating revolutionary rhetoric to trick the masses into believing they were revolutionary. When actually analyzing what fascists did politically and economically, it is clear that they were (and are) a counterrevolutionary movement whose function was (and is) to preserve capitalism by co-opting and crushing revolutionary movements which threatened capitalism.
Italian fascism was also never anti-capitalist. In fact, fascism is an aggravated and extreme form that capitalism takes when it undergoes systemic crisis. In that sense, fascism is the stopgap of capitalism, a means whereby capitalism can prevent revolution and recover from a crisis state (such as the crisis state after World War I). Mussolinian corporatism is intrinsically capitalist in both form and function, despite Mussolini's anti-capitalist rhetoric. You would have to be extremely gullible and naïve to seriously believe that Mussolini's anti-capitalist rhetoric proves an anti-capitalist agenda despite the overwhelming evidence that the Italian fascist economic and political system was characteristically still bourgeois.
Most authors characterize fascism as a radical centrist "Third Way" ideology or a reactionary far-right ideology. There are few authors which treat fascism as including the left wing and no credible historians or political theorists who characterize it as exclusively or principally leftist. Such frauds often claim that communism is a form of fascism (or contrariwise), which is a ludicrously absurd claim to anyone who is actually familiar with the political and economic theory of both.
Yes, fascism is related to racism because fascism as an ideology promotes a highly militant identarian supremacism. That national identity is often racialized, as the Nazis and Strasserites did, because national identity and racial identity are both integral components of the supremacist nature of fascism. Mussolini himself wasn't particularly racist, but he was highly nationalistic and promoted Italian national identity at the expense of others, to the point that non-Italian nationalities were considered inferior and thus deserving of subjugation. This nationalist conception of supremacism is not significantly different from its racialized form; both use the same logic and entail the same treatment of the other.
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Exactly, if you give your hand to help them, they will take all of your arm.. This is how muslim mind works, trust me i am living among them.. Why their mind works in that way ? Because according to islam, they are the most valuable things in the world forever, they dont respect nature, they don
t care about animals, they don`t even care about each other.. They all are selfish naturally.. No one should have tried to help them.. Now Europe is facing the consequences and will continue to face...
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This guy may have been from the Tunisia, but none of the terroristic groups took responsibility so my guess is he was just mental and probably wanted to end his life. Maybe he faced too much racism and thus were really angry about French people all in all. Who knows, but yeah, he shouted "Allah ho Akbar" at the end. World is messed up.
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These attacks will not cease until we address the material and social conditions which produce them, namely capitalism, imperialism, and reactionary thought. It's futile to profess insincere and vague condolences to nobody in particular about this tragedy, just as it's futile to "#PrayForNice" or whatever social media nonsense is trending in response to it. We need to educate, agitate, and organize to fundamentally transform society into one wherein the conditions which produce these tragedies no longer exist. Until we as a society begin to adopt a radical agenda of that nature, these attacks will continue to push us into another (and perhaps final) world war.
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I'm not blaming myself, you fucking imbecile. I'm blaming the social and material conditions of global society, which are the root and foundation of these phenomena. Islam is a religion which was produced from certain historical, material, and social conditions. Its current state, and the forms therein, is likewise a product of those conditions. It is pointless to blame superstructural phenomena like religion for events because that superstructure relies upon a material base which informs it. If you fail to understand that material base, then your analysis of the superstructure will necessarily be astray and will inevitably lead you to fundamentally misunderstanding the phenomenon being critiqued.
You can blame Islam if you want, since you are clearly a reactionary and thus lacking in a basic understanding of political and economic theory and the critical thinking skills necessary to properly analyze these issues, but I prefer to actually recognize the underlying conditions which produce these events we face so that we as a society can address them practically and effectively. As for your obsession with cuckoldry, it's supremely ironic for you to accuse me as much when you are the bootlicking classcuck obsequious to a delusional ideology which perpetually obfuscates and obscures the reality in which you live.
Kill yourself, coward. We won't be so merciful.
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I'm not "protecting" Muslims, nor am I a Muslim, nor would it matter if I was. Address my points and not my personality, coward.
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Jeez, someone here should get off the pedestal on which he stand.
"We" who, anyway? You sound like one of those self declared commie who fight capitalism in ward but support mundialism and globalization with fact, and without even realizing it. I'm curious now.
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I'm near families of the poor 84 People that were killed this night, and I pray for the injured ones...
It is unlegit...taking theirs lives...this is unfair
Now we live in a non-justice world!
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You're a brown-skinned Brazilian. White nationalists and fascists would put a bullet in your skull right next to any jihadists they fight in their delusional race war "crusade". You have to be profoundly clueless to willingly serve as such a useful idiot to the very ideology which wants to systematically segregate and exterminate people like you.
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Yeah, i'm brazilian.
I'm not talking about kill all muslims or christians. I'm talking about purge all fanatism, end this culture of ''my religion is the right religion, you deserve to die because you believe in another religion''.
We're in 21st century, there's not space for this kind of thinking.
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Then perhaps you shouldn't use "Deus vult!", which is the cry of Christian crusaders who slaughtered countless Saracens (Muslims) over the course of nearly two centuries, and a common phrase used among contemporary fascists and white nationalists to signify their desire for a jihad "crusade" against the infidels Untermenschen. Unless you want to be associated with either, it's best to leave that zealous cry in the history books, where "Allahu ackbar!" and all other fanatical and reactionary calls belong.
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I know what Deus Vult means, buddy. We also study here in Brazil.
I have used because this moment looks pretty familiar with the crusades. But i want do clarify to you and everybody else here: I don't want to see islam out of this world.
My point here is we have to fight against these acts, just sit on a piano and play Imagine from John Lennon after every attack is not working.
We're about to have a olympics here in Brazil, we also runs the same risk of attack, i don't live in Rio (thank god for that) but i'm worried about my fellow brazilians and the world community who will come here to watch.
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Posting a racist call used by religious fanatics and appropriated by white nationalists on a giveaway site's forum isn't really "fight[ing] against these acts", either. It just makes you look like someone who is either ignorant of history, careless about the historical baggage of such phrases, or ideologically committed to a philosophy of violence and destruction not dissimilar from those that Islamic fundamentalists promote.
Couching contemporary events in historical rhetoric about the crusades is a guaranteed method of fomenting increased tension between Western society and Muslims in general, which is precisely what Islamic fundamentalist groups like Daesh want (in fact, they have explicitly stated as much before). Doing so also plays into the hands of white nationalists, fascists, and other far-right reactionaries, which in turn plays into the hands of the Islamic fundamentalist groups they ironically oppose. Unless you want that to occur, perhaps you should reconsider using such language.
If you're so committed about personally fighting against this issue, then organize and collaborate with various groups to protest the conditions which are causing them, namely the ones I described above. Alternatively, book a flight to Syria and go join the YPG in Kurdistan, who are actively fighting against Daesh on a daily basis.
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you're acting like the rest of left in europe. Nobody can talk anything different of their speeches or will be called of racist, xenophobic, nazi or worse.
If you are so committed about protect those people i suggest you to fly to Syria and try to solve this puting flowers in their gun barrels.
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I'm pointing out that your use of "Deus vult!" is, as an objective fact of reality, associated with extremely racist and xenophobic historical events and contemporary white nationalist and fascist culture. If you don't understand this, and you seriously don't recognize the issue with using a phrase like "Deus vult!", then you are either politically retarded and unfit to be having this discussion or you are being intentionally stupid and deliberately disingenuous for the purpose of serving your virulent reactionary agenda. You can say whatever stupid nonsense you want, but don't feign surprise when others call you out for saying such stupid nonsense.
If I fly to Syria, it's to put bullets in the skulls of fascists and reactionaries, not to do peaceful marches and rehearse the Carnation Revolution. Maybe the leftists you have met are impotent cowards more obsessed with self-righteous pacifism than militant action, but I'm not one of them. I have no problem fighting against reactionaries, whether they be Islamofascists in the Middle East or cryptofascist useful idiots in Brazil.
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Yeah, buddy!
Go to Syria, train with them, become a member of the jihad and start killing everybody who thinks different.
Would be a nice start if you kill me first, because i'm brazilian, not white and don't approve this immigration thing.
Have a nice day.
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Perhaps you're just generally retarded, since you clearly can't distinguish between fighting against jihadists and joining a jihad. No, I would only start killing those with a physical agenda against me and those I care about, not anyone who thinks differently than me. I don't have an issue with a diversity of thought per se; my issue is with particular thoughts and ideologies. That should be apparent to anyone who wasn't dishonestly trying to smear me as a fanatic for being militantly opposed to the Western equivalent of Islamic fundamentalists and jihadists.
Go fuck yourself and good riddance, cryptofascist.
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if you give your hand to help them, they will take all of your arm.. This is how muslim mind works, trust me i am living among them.. Why their mind works in that way ? Because according to islam, they are the most valuable things in the world forever, they dont respect nature, they dont care about animals, they don`t even care about each other.. They all are selfish naturally.. No one should have tried to help them.. Now Europe is facing the consequences and will continue to face...
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Why should anyone trust you when you are clearly extremely prejudiced and so lacking in critical thinking skills that you promote facile generalizations about a demographic of over 1.6 billion people (~21% of global population)? It doesn't matter that you live "among them", since your opinion about them is as useful as is a white nationalist's opinion of blacks while living in a ghetto.
Clearly, you haven't the slightest understanding of what you're talking about, instead resorting to extremely primitive and crude conceptions of human nature and foreign cultures and a dogged commitment to in-group favoritism. Do everyone a favor and keep your intellectually incompetent opinions to yourself.
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White nationalists opinion about blacks who lives in a ghetto is more realist and useful than anyone
s who sees the world as Pollyanna sees. Instead talking from your bed while lying comfortably i invite you to argue about these things with a French who lost someone, or just with a random French who can`t stop worrying when his/her children just go outside to school.
Humanism is the current bleeding wound of humanity because of calmass people like you. How many muslims you know ? Because of which intellectually competent knowledge you can throw ideas about people ?
Generalization can be applied to all muslims if some of them act the way i told while rest of them are in silence and do nothing, even praise them.
Sympathy to ISIS and al-Nusra Front like organizations are constantly inceasing. You cannot imagine how many educated muslims have joined them.
I advise to you and your intellectually competent opinions not to be pink as Heidi`s dress.
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White nationalists opinion about blacks who lives in a ghetto is more realist and useful than anyones who sees the world as Pollyanna sees.
Complete bullshit, but thanks for demonstrating your sympathies to white nationalism. Keep your cliché stereotypes to yourself, since they are intellectually unfit for anyone worth the air they breathe.
Instead talking from your bed while lying comfortably i invite you to argue about these things with a French who lost someone, or just with a random French who can`t stop worrying when his/her children just go outside to school.
I have no problem doing so. Just because someone personally experienced tragedy, that doesn't justify their externalization of that tragedy and scapegoating of others as a means of coping with it. No matter if you are an affluent champagne liberal far removed from such tragedies or your family was just shot by jihadists in front of your eyes, my message will remain the same.
Humanism is the current bleeding wound of humanity because of calmass people like you. How many muslims you know ? Because of which intellectually competent knowledge you can throw ideas about people ?
I'm an antihumanist, transhumanist, and posthumanist. I don't subscribe to humanist thought. How many Muslims I know is irrelevant to anything I've said. Stop personalizing this issue and address my points, coward.
Generalization can be applied to all muslims if some of them act the way i told while rest of them are in silence and do nothing, even praise them.
Fortunately, your generalization is completely inaccurate, wholly unsubstantiated by credible empirical evidence, and completely founded on primitive reactionary thinking.
Sympathy to ISIS and al-Nusra Front like organizations are constantly inceasing. You cannot imagine how many educated muslims have joined them.
When the total Muslim population is over 1.6 billion, even a couple hundred thousand such instances are little more than a negligible blip in the demographic radar.
I advise to you and your intellectually competent opinions not to be pink as Heidi`s dress.
I'm not "pink" at all. The black and red flag is the one I wave, with a tinge of green thrown in.
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Agreed, cicatrix
This thing of helping them opening the borders was a fatal mistake.
Our president was considering to do the same thing, imagine this kind of acts here in South America, in Brazil...
We're the most catholic country in world, we'll be easy targets for them. We don't have this culture to worry about terrorism.
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Daesh and other such Islamic fundamentalists are more interested in inciting persecution of Muslims by attacking Europe and the United States, which has been their express goal for over a decade now. It's no coincidence that Islamic terrorist attacks are virtually nonexistent in South and Central America, since it's not strategically useful to do so. The fact that Brazil has a high population of Roman Catholics, or that South and Central America in general are highly Christian regions, is not particularly relevant because groups like Daesh, al-Qaeda, and the Taliban are focused on attacking the cores of the world-system of Western imperialism and capitalism, namely Europe and the United States, which much better serves their interests of inciting a global jihad.
Border control is not particularly effective at preventing terrorist attacks. Terrorist attacks are usually performed by people who are already in the country and they contact operatives through secure channels over the Internet. Border control is, at best, a distraction from the main issue of terrorism and is only being promoted by the political right because it serves their interests of preserving national, cultural, and racial identity as they conceive it. To treat it as a serious approach to address terrorism is politically naïve.
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Hey imbecile ! South and Central America is far from Middle east and Europe in case you don`t know. Also there are not much muslim originated people who can develop sympathy to radical islam. These are the reasons there are no attacks, not your strategically BS. For example there are no attacks in Poland too, because there are not much islam originated people you moron.
Take your intellectually competent opinions, write them in a paper, wrap the paper.. you know next...
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The United States is also far from the Middle East, too, "imbecile", and it's much more difficult to enter than South and Central American countries due to it having some of the strictest border policies in the world.
Many of the Islamic fundamentalist groups, particularly Daesh, are attracting countless disaffected youth and other non-Muslims to serve in their ranks. The low population of Muslims in Central and South America is not particularly relevant, since disaffected youth and other non-Muslims could still be recruited and the goal of such attacks is to foment hatred and persecution of Muslims as a demographic, not merely to incite hatred of local Muslims. Poland isn't a major target of terrorist attacks because it's already a militant reactionary country and it doesn't have much power in Europe. There are bigger and better targets for Islamic fundamentalists to take, such as France, Germany, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Sweden. Poland, in comparison, is very low priority.
Yet again, you demonstrate that you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. Reserve your idiotic and borderline unintelligible rambling for StormFront or whatever reactionary hellscape you prefer and keep it off this site.
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Unsurprisingly, you are so ignorant of this topic that you seriously think the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were the last ones the United States has experienced from Islamic fundamentalists.
Good riddance, reactionary. Go and stay gone, preferably permanently.
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People like you don't deserve anything from me, even if I could afford it. This is a giveaway site, where people give away games out of charity to the less fortunate. I'm part of that less fortunate, so I'm performing my role as being the recipient of giveaways. Perhaps if I actually had money, and this community didn't treat me like dogshit, I might be inclined to make giveaways. Neither of those conditions are met, however, so don't expect me to undermine my own financial security to give away to ungrateful cryptofascists like you.
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I thought you fucked off already? Feel free to read all about it for yourself.
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Okay.. They are all from islam originated immigrants who lived there.. First place i was trying to tell this: dont help them. I told if you give your hand to help they will take off your arm.. So why a country should accept immigrations of for example 10000 people if just 10 of them will commit crimes against your people ? It all comes to the point i was trying to tell: don
t help them, don`t accept them, throw away all of them to fix the mistakes every country has done to their own people... i cannot understand how and why a country try to help them if there is chance of killing your own people ? even if there is a 0.001% chance.. All government know that by now.. Just chill, and watch closely what will happen in the future and what will the governments do..
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So why are they targeting such countries a lot of muslims live in ? Why dont they care about their fellow brothers ? Why don
t the muslims who live in these counties you mentioned do anything ? Why aren`t there any protests agaisnt terrorism organized by muslims live in these countries ?
Why did you give Sweden as an example ? Wasn`t it a peaceful country until immigrations ?
Why there are not ISIS based attacks in Russia ? I don`t think there is more strategic country than Russia to attack to.
There are less strategic thinking of terrorists than you think. Attacks are becoming more simultaneous and more and more will be..
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Or because his avatar is the iron cross and he has a quote from Rommel in his profile
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If this happened in any 3rd world or Second world country, nobody will give a shit
For example: In the previous month in Turkey there was an attack made by ISIS in the airport, why nobody was talking about this in SteamGifts?
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