Is lack of courtesy on receipt of gift blacklist worthy?
Personally, I like it when the winner is happy, and particularly when it shows. That reminds me what i felt when i first won.
If there is no message, it's not so bad, but I prefer when there is one
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I feel the same! It's crazy to me to not write a quick thank you for something you're being given... I believe some maybe think it annoys the GA creator, but personally I think it's better to be kind or decent and annoy a few people a tiny bit than hurt someone's feelings!
Then there's ill-intentioned, lazy/apathetic or liking the feeling of taking something and calling you a sucker... I dunno what goes on in people's heads but that's what it looks like to me... It's too common to see 800 won with like 20 overall comments, no doubt only when something's interfered with their gift-receiving
I'm happier when I do group or whitelist giveaways, cause about 95% there appreciate it and sometimes put a little message about how they're excited to play or what they love about it!
I think of it like this: When you open a gift in-person do you just sit there and stare at it then walk away without a word? That person is never going to want to give you a gift again lol :s
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hm I dislike the blacklist but I've started using it for people that consistently take over 48 hours to check their wins, I mean not like anyone will miss anything anyway. Not like I am giving out copies of BG3 or other cool games like that. I dunno really, I hate to alienate anyone because I know what it feels like. I guess just do what you want, plenty of people around here even is they never say anything.
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Depends a lot on game. If it is some newer unbundled AAA or choice headliner, I expect winner know basic courtesy. And in case of AAAs I even go three months later check winner if he played a game. If not, I add him to blacklist. He already got game from me and let it took dust, so what more they expect from me?
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More annoying is people who win and don't accept my friend invite(even though I see them online!). After a several days it gets irritating, especially if their profile comments are disabled. I find myself going to screenshots or reviews to try and send a message. "Add me- you won on SG!" Is it so hard to make the correlation!?
I happen to buy through Steam and gift that way, so sometimes the game is time sensitive on a sale too lol. But that's a risk I take.
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Is it annoying? Maybe, yes.
Have I ever blacklisted someone because of that? No.
But yeah like others said, completely up to you, there is no right or wrong.
I have seen many different perspectives here, like some people blacklist the winner no matter what because they don't want the same person to win a game from them again. Which makes sense from their perspective and I respect that.
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Instances like that make me wonder if this site should have been called Steam gifts or not.
A good percentage of users clearly don't treat it as 'gifts' like you would treat IRL gifts.
If you receive gifts/presents, you are grateful for it, you feel the need to give back as well.
You take the time to cherish what you receive.
You don't heartlessly leech off someone's generosity either. I suppose there is some dignity to it.
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A good percentage of users clearly don't treat it as 'gifts' like you would treat IRL gifts.
If you receive gifts/presents, you are grateful for it, you feel the need to give back as well.
I'm afraid not everyone feels that way, even IRL haha. World would probably be a better place if that was the case.
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IRL, you usually don't get to choose your gifts, unless you have a gift register, so you often end up with things you have no interest in, but are at least obligated to pretend to be thankful for. Then the great regifting begins.
The difference is here, people choose which GAs to enter, although I'm sure many are just autojoining without looking, or entirely automated.
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There are different situations, maybe someone simply forgot to thank, or is not used to doing it, but to add to the black list because of this, in my opinion, is too categorical. Actually, I won't be offended if the winner doesn't thank me.
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Normally, I don't like Adding users to my BlackList.
But, when I see users, I have a hard suspicion, they use AutoJoiner (Normally those are users under LvL-3)
Yes, it is a common courtesy to say Thanks, for GA you have Won, but I dont mind, if you dont do. Definately, not a reason to put them to BlackList.
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Personally, I believe it's fine to express gratitude, but I don't mind if, when I make a giveaway, nobody says thank you hehe, it's not a reason to blacklist a someone, so it depends on what you expect from the other person.
I remember reading some posts and GAs asking not to say "thank you". I don't know why because receiving a "thank you" is not an annoying thing...and it sounds very unfriendly. Unfortunately, I couldn't find them to show you. I only found one GA saying "Don't say thank you before you actually get the giveaway"...
Sorry if my English is a bit potato. I don't usually write because it's not my native language, but I'm learning now.
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I thank everyone if I win. If I missed one then it was a mistake and I just missed it. Before a GA is over I will comment if I have something to say, but I don't say thanks just to say thanks during a GA. I do something bump threads if the giver asked and I see no one has done so for awhile.
I do like it when my winner says thanks. But I don't blacklist anyone for not saying anything.
I do blacklist people if I see them saying hurtful things to others or trying to bully them. Its not a big list as I'm not normally paying attention to that. I have blacklisted a few users that I had issues with so I never have to deal with them again. Key issues are not the issues I mean. I'm happy to agree to a GA delete as long as everyone is polite.
I might blacklist someone if I see them with lots of wins but no giveaways in the past year or two. I don't generally give to the bottom 3 or 4 levels. This avoids most of this issue.
lol. I just went back looking at what levels I"m dong. Seems to be mostly 3,5,7 in the past year. I have no idea why I seem to pick the odd levels. Guess I'll do a couple for 4 and 6. Perhaps an 8. :)
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As I thought, a fellow 🍁
Must say thank you, say you're welcome, hold the door open, say sorry, say have a nice day(night). It's a rare day to not do any of that.
Best to not worry about it. Give it away and forget about it. I check the winner before they get the key and I check again after they mark it received.
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Meh, it's a minor annoyance. Not enough for me to blacklist people. Maybe some of them do say thanks and just forgot that one time. Maybe there's a lot more going on in their life. I can't be bothered blacklisting someone for that.
And there's also the possibility that they are a bot and just enter everything, and set no value on what they've won since they'll never play it anyway. But you don't know that. lol. It's better not to think about it, and just hope that the person will play it at some point.
The thing that annoys me more are blatent bot users. They program their bots to write some generic message every time they enter a giveaway, so if you've made 20GAs at one time, you could get 10 of the same message, or 20, since some bots enter everything without regard for what they're entering.
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They program their bots to write some generic message every time they enter a giveaway
The autojoiner program have a thanks script included that can be activated.
The most autojoiner users don't activate it, so you spot with the thanks spam only the dumbest of them.
And yes they are annoying.
Plus that cg don't do something against them.
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I think that's automated too, you can fire a message whenever you win. I saw someone commenting the same thing on each of their wins. I'm not sure, I used a script like years ago, I don't like to keep my devices powered on just to enter giveaways.
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I think it's a basic courtesy to thank someone who is giving something to you.
SG is not a candy machine where you put fake coins in a slot and eventually another slot spits out a gift. There are people behind the whole thing and we should, when receiving a gift, acknowledge that basic fact.
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I'm surprised this type of thing doesn't happen more given the average account here. I'd have thought people might become less appreciative for every +1. The reality seems to be that most people are polite enough to take a few seconds out of their life and say thank you after winning.
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I am inclined to blacklist those winners of my giveaways who do not say thanks, and who also have a history of not saying thanks on their wins (unless ofc the gifter asks for "no thanks, please"). According to the way I was raised, it is a absolute minimum amount of courtesy to say "thank you" etc. when you are given something. Note that I am only inclined to do this; this isn't a hard-and-fast rule for me.
As others said, if you win 3 games at the same time from the same person, saying "thank you for all 3 games" in one post is plenty.
I also don't mind people saying "thanks" when they enter, so long as they don't spam it or expect a reply.
On another note, do you feel obligated to say "you're welcome" when someone says "thank you for the win!"?
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I usually make a point not only to say "thank you" when I receive a gift, but I also like to come back and say "thank you" again once I finish it. So I agree it is minimal common courtesy to show some gratitude (at least once).
That said, I don't think that warrants a personal blacklist (well, nothing does in my opinion). Sometimes people are just forgetful or busy. For example, I recently found an old GA I won and I did not see my "thank you" comment in it... no idea what happened there, and I made a point to say it now (even if years late), but certainly it was not lack of gratitude at all.
But just my $0.07. I am generous today. :D
Cheers!
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for me it's when they're online, entering giveaways, for days, and dont accept the key or add me to gift them something,
for you, if it's a game you like or a good game and they say nothing when they win, then yeah maybe blacklisting them is justified, statistically speaking they're most likely will never win anything from you ever again anyway,
but if it's hentai master 3000 and they say nothing after winning, then no, not worth it to blacklist them.
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I think whether or not it's blacklist worthy is really up to each person. While I prefer thanks from my winners, it's not something I blacklist over, but I wouldn't judge someone for doing so either. I don't really like being thanked before the giveaway ends though x_x usually because I get a lot of bots giving the same generic thanks on whatever giveaways Im running at the time
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You can blacklist people for whatever reason you deem worthy. If you think it deserves a blacklist, then it does. Even the simple act of saying "thank you" may not be as universal as you think. It used to be customary here to thank a person for making a giveaway, but now it's blacklist-worthy for some people because it's classified as spam (some bots have an auto join message enabled).
I see the blacklist as a tool of convenience for myself rather than a tool of punishment for the blacklisted. I have no interest in "punishing" people, but even if I did, the blacklist sucks at that. Big deal if the huge pool of giveaways available to the blacklisted is missing mine.
For me personally, I don't care either way. I don't care if people thank me upon entering the giveaway, and I don't care if they don't thank me when they win. If they say thank you when they enter, I'll assume at least a few of them are just being polite. If I don't receive a thank you after a win, that's fewer notifications to deal with. My personal blacklist trigger is someone who makes the process of giving away games unpleasant, like having to contact them to urge them to accept their win.
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Since I've joined, I haven't added anyone to my blacklist... we all come from different walks, speak differently, interpret things differently and ultimately in a text based environment probably add the wrong emotional intent to what we see more than we'd care to admit.
However, there is one thing I believe is universal and that's courtesy. If you receive something, acknowledge it.
of my total gifts, only 0.8% have not said anything on receipt. It's a teeny number, that occupies to much of my brain, why does it bother me?
Is this blacklist worthy?
Add your thoughts below or answer the poll!
Opps forgot the GA lol
damnit, here's another that's not public lol
EDIT:
Thank you all for the responses. I may still try to get back to responding to each, however if I don't please accept my appreciation for you taking the time to respond. I'll leave the topic open as it's a healthy conversation and perspectives from both sides. (so far anyways :D)
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