Hey, I'm a developer for the Source Engine, the programmer/coder.
And I been wondering what would make the best multiplayer Source based mod/game?

  • Would it be something like the MW series?
  • Really fast paced?
  • Experience/level system?
  • Realism?

Give me your ideas, and I might make something happen :)

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Anything that doesn't use a gun would be a nice change of pace.

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Hmm, what then?
No combat at all?

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Wow, to hear that from a supposed programmer/coder sounds extremely ignorant.

Ever played games such as infamous, or medieval/fantasy games? Maybe using super-powers as weapons, or kingdom-hearts-style (rapid melee attack combos) multiplayer's would be cool to see.

I'm sick and tired of seeing the same shit as the next game, which usually involves guns. And apparently you don't share that same image as I do, so whatever...

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No no, I was not trying to offend you in anyway man :)
I kinda misunderstood the word "gun" with "weapons".
Yeah, sorry for that.

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Ah, alrighty then. Sorry about lashing out on you.

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That's allright man, my mistake.

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To be fair, not all programmers/coders have great ideas or vision. They just need to know how to write code :P

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Yeah, haha, thats kinda why I'm hunting ideas. ^^

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Well this programmer is going out his way to actually ask for suggestions, so I hope he/she actually does care for them :P

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I (he) will do my best man! ^^

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You know, my dream for gaming is where in one game you'll shoot someone and then during a game of say Fifa you'll see their son crying

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"Experience/level system?"

I like this. I enjoy class-based stuff with leveling of some kind that confers some sort of benefits.

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Yeah.
Some thoughts I've had though was if the level should reset on death?
Make some kind of gungame, where you get a new weapon, lets say each 6 level, and if you die, the "counter" resets.
Sadly, I can't make a level system that "saves" the current state of your level. That requires some SQL and some other server stuff.

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Well, I generally prefer something with longer timescale persistent leveling coughKillingFloorcough than something with round-limited leveling or the like coughDotA2cough, although both are interesting and fun in their own way. Just my personal preference, though, of course.

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Unfortunately that would bring unbalance (and frustration) in a competitive game. Skilled players would benefit new items while not that good players would be stuck with base equipement.

As wbarton says a more persitent leveling is more interesting, though it may take too long for players to level up their preferred classes. Like in KF where a lot of work has to be done in order to level a single class.

12 years ago
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Hmm. Yeah. Roundbased levels.
Never thought of that. That could be good for sure!

12 years ago
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Does anyone remember the The Legend of Zelda: Four swords Multiplayer (on Gamecube)...If this sorts of multiplayer would be available on huge 64-players maps....

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No, sadly, I never really played any Zelda games.

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The original 2 Swords was a GBA game. Unfortunately, I don't think it will scale well above 4 players. Or that a top-down 2D game will even fit Source.

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Nope. 2D games aren't "Source friendly". :)

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2D top-down, maybe not but, how about 3D top-down? Alien Swarm uses the source engine and it a 2D top-down game. I think a good game would be one with a co-op campaign.

I second the 4 Swords Adventures-style game. Just look at the shenanigans that will ensue! :D

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3D top-down is possible.
And then a 3D top-down "Zelda" like rpg?
Like hunting for bosses and such? ^^

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Yup, doing that in a single player is pretty fun. Now, think about the fun (and shenanigans!) that will happen in a game like that, only multiplayer! :D. Another good example of this kind of game is Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles for the Gamecube

If you can make it both local and online MP, the better ^_^

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Oh sweet, I could make that!

  • That would be awesome.
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I was more like only the concept not a 2D game

12 years ago
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Yeah okay, I see. :)

12 years ago
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More games like SMNC would be awesome :3

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I like Monday Night Combat alot actaully.
Haven't tried SMNC yet though. But basiclly thats just a classbased game, with different abilities for each class.

  • Easy to do in Source ^^
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Hmm, maybe a contra ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBMQhKK3Ctk ) styled 2D Side scroller game, with cooperative mode ( 2-4 player )

12 years ago
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Contra with 2 player IS Contra.

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yep. good old days :/

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2D side scroller. Hmm.
Maybe a "soldat" like game?:)

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Just searched what that game is. Seems nice. I think I played a similar Quake mod once. Looks like it could go well with the kind of people that will likely play games on the Source engine.

Still doesn't look anywhere as good as Contra. :D

12 years ago
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similiar, with lot of guns, explosions and oversized bosses.

EDIT: And with extremely badass 2! player cooperative mode :D

12 years ago
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And zombies?

  • Haha :)
12 years ago
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zombie soldiers?

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Well, I myself find zombie mods overdone.

  • Zombie soldiers? Flesh eating zombies with guns? Haha, not done... Yet..
    That might actaully turn out pretty well.
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Level system - good and popular. Realism - very good, but not popular. Really fast paced - not good but popular.
If u use Source engine I think u can create something like multiplayer game based on the story. Like Left 4 Dead (Zombie - popular, but (in my opinion) already sucks). Create something like history mode for 1-12 players (min). Also challenges, survival modes and nice maps based on physics. And level system. But it's only my opinion.

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Hmm, yeah, I see.
Like making a multiplayer game based on a history event, right?
Which one?:P

  • WW2 is taken, hah.
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Maybe theme with future (not so far) or like Age of Chivalry in past.

Or Arena FPS. I don't see Arena FPS games on Source.

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Hmm. Yeah, good point sir ^^

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I haven't seen source engine being used for Fighting games. Is this possible? I know it's very out there.

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Like "arena" fighting?
I know for sure that "Zeno Clash" have some fist fighting ingame, and its pretty well done.

  • And yeah, its easy enough to code btw. ^^
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And what about a RPG game?
The Source Engine is very bad for big open worlds. So, what would be the best way to make a RPG, in your opinion?

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The World needs a proper Tank Game.

I would sell my soul to the devil for a really good and half way realistic tank game where at least 2 people are needed to steer one Tank - Gunner and Driver, optional Commander to keep overwatch.

MP Maps should provide a game of at least 10 vs 10, one tank pack against the other with 1 General who can give orders and has limited airstrike capability.

Tanks should be able to shoot SABOT, HEAT and also should have Smoke to pop.
Nightvision should be available.
Hitting the Tank in specific spots should result in broken Chains, a shot into the ammo chamber should not kill the Tank if the commander ejects the ammo quick enough - this is actually realistic. But of course, ammo is gone, but the Tank is forced to retreat and get repairs and restock from nearby Engineers which are controlled by players.

There should be also one spot for one squad by 4 players providing a mix of support with Anti Tank Missiles (Javelin), Engineers and maybe spotters.

I wish I would have the skills to make such a game... :D

Oh and no WW2 Shit. I want to drive M1A2 and Leopards 2, Russian Tanks etc.

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Like a ultra-realism war game?
Haha, thats for sure not seen often enough.
I don't even think Arma have those features.

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I was looking into arma 2, it could be done. But I am a bad modder when it comes to Arma 2.

Does not need to be ultra realistic, but fun to play and tactical gameplay instead of just engineers repairing all the time etc.

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Hmm, yeah.
In this "concept" is it like a RTS game?
And how about the maps, how would they be?:)

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No, it would be basically Arma 2 in Tanks, just pure Tank Battles with a bit of infantry.

Maps should consist out of hills, forests and maybe even desert at night. Narrow Valleys could work too as ambush places or even cities.

The General could be like in BF or Nuclear Dawn, but he should only know about units the squads know about.
Of course, there could be limited UAV and Awacs control..

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That is actaully something i've never seen before.
And quite possible as well!

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+1

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What would you say to future based tanks then?
Would that be lame?

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I'm not who you were asking, and I'm not trying to hijack the question, but I, for one, think it would be fine as long as it wasn't too over-the-top. Giving them capabilities beyond what modern tanks have: more effective armor and weaponry, better speed, improved communications and spotting, and so on; would be fine, I think. If you started trying to get too sci-fi with it, like energy weapons and stuff like that, it gets kind of iffy in my opinion. Maybe if it was well-done, but still a bit much.

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Hmm. Yeah okay I see.
Not all sci-fi with like hover tanks and recharging energy cannons, yeah okay :)

12 years ago
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Yeah, it kind of becomes a completely different kind of game when you get into that territory. Not that that would be a bad game necessarily, but totally different from what we're talking about here.

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I'd rather see real life tanks. But thats just me :D.

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Yeah okay!
I might start make some code tests actaully.

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Try to make something unique as The Ship

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Yeah.
But what exactly is making that unique?
Not trying to be a douche or anything, just want to see some things get pointed out. :)

12 years ago
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It's a stealth game that requires you to interact with the other players. Murder people without getting caught. Unlike stealth games that require you to be 'invisible' and hide in the shadows with little player interaction.

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Yeah, okay, be the "unknown" kinda.

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I have some unique ideas but sorry, they are all for my future games ;). Try to make something new. Absolutly new. What about, idk an action source battle between vampires and humans can by funny. “Think outside the box, collapse the box, and take a fucking sharp knife to it.”
— Banksy

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Hah, seen the vampires vs humans before!

  • What are you developing on?:)
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Woo, thats secret ;). Currently i have two ideas. One is for unique co-op RPG and the second one is my own concept of game genre:). But its most likely that i will never finish any of this games. Btw. if you wanna make really interesting game, just thing about game you wanna play. What will be the game, which you will choose ,when you can play MW3, Skyrim, Portal 2 or YOUR GAME? What your game have to be like? Just think about it that way :) (and sorry for my english)

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i think this will be pretty good and unusual thing to play

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Yeah, you're right.
Those graphics seems pretty neat as well! :)

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I like open world games where you can decide and make choices :)

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Like talk to other people, and make them like/hate you?
Conversasion system?:)

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Make Megaman multiplayer. PvP. No fps. Too many shooter game nowadays.

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Megaman? Haha, I played that game as a kid!
How would it be then? Thirdperson, Gears of War over the shoulder view?
Big maps? Player vs player, or player(s) vs NPC's?

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but must be a side scrolling (3D models, etc, but 2D perspective), like Megaman X8 (or the barely dead Megaman online).. will be nice a PvP arena with megaman theme... full of Zero-ish Pjs

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Hmm. What about just 3rd person, almost top down 3D?

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add lock-on and melee and that can work

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Yikes, that ain't easy, but worth a shot, huh?
The Source Engine aint good at 2D sidescrolling.

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There aren't nearly enough games set in the old west... Could be a simple versus mode or defend a town mode (think Magnificent 7). If you want a shooter that is.
If not even better but I don't have any worthwhile on ideas there. :D

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I love the HL2 mod called "Shotgun Sunrise" (or something)
Its a "wild west free roam vehicle zombie shooter"!

  • I would love to make a similar game!! Just need some ideas for making it kinda unique!
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I'm just a random guy on the forums, but I'm pretty sure zombies are a bad idea, especially in a Source game. Not because there is something wrong with zombies but there are so many Source mods/games with them that it would make it pretty generic.

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Get a console and buy Red Dead Redemption <3

12 years ago
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Yeah, you're right...
A little expensive though.

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Stop teasing me... I don't have a console and I'm pretty sure it's not worth buying it for one game. :(

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True shit dude.

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Yes it is.

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Stealth games we need more stealth games... like the multiplayer of splinter cell (3 and 4), that´s for a Co-Op game

and for a multiplayer a third/first person fast paced + loot + level system (imagine a Borderlands meets Bulletstorm); against mobs.... is there any source based MMO?

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The Source Engine handles big open maps very bad!
But stealth games? Like with cloaked suits and stuff?

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more like "realistic" stealth games, dark ambients, hide in shadowsm, turn of lights, ambush enemies, use souds to cover your steps/shoots, etc...

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Wow, great! Splinter Cell like then?
Hiding in shadows, waiting for enemy's to pass, backstab em' with your knife?

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exactly, and you could make it a good CO-op (2-4 players) with it... just imagine; 1 agent in the front, another on the roof 2 on the back...
add objective mission (hack, assasination, steal,etc) and that could work

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Yeah awesome! That could be sweet!

  • I'll might start to take a look at it.
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Co-Op / Versus game, Helping each other to win, CPU's or other players

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Kinda like L4D2? Like when you're down, you gotta get a teammate to get ya' up?

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Going to bed now, exam tommorow, haha, i'll reply later.

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Good luck with exam!

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Thanks buddy. :)

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Usually my main issue with multiplayer is that internet connection can be a factor. Lag and delay can really ruin any game experience, especially in fast paced games. Turn based games seem to effectively neutralize that(I'm thinking something along the lines of "Might & Magic Clash of Heroes" which has an interesting, unique and, most importantly, relatively balanced combat system). Of course this means trowing the actual experience/level system and realism out of the window, no fast paced action and some serious effort on balancing the game. Also, I don't really understand how the source engine works(I'm still a novice programmer at best) and what exactly makes it different from other engines, but it doesn't seem to be very appropriate for turn-based games which usually require a sky view of the battlefield instead of an up-close detailed view. But, well, that's my opinion on multiplayer games, don't know if it helped or not. ;)

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Haha, that could be interesting as well!

  • The Source Engine can handle it. ^^
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Maybe a metroid/megaman styled game in first person. Team deathmatch maybe with lazer guns and energy swords?

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Like with energy jumps and stuff?
Really fast paced, rocket jumps?

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Yea

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Yeah okay, class system as well?
(lets keep the thought)

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Maybe

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You have a Type 40 TARDIS.
Do it Jonathan.
Do.
It.

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Excuse me? xD

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Just look at that awesome old good Gameplay of Rune! That's what I would like to see in your new game!

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I played Rune myself, haha, oldschool.

  • But yeah, melee combat in multiplayer?^^
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Yeah! Exactly! I would like to see something like this again with new fresh look!

Those Times were Great! You, your sword, bhopping and decapitating your enemy!

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my idea of the best concept of a multiplayer game is a multiplayer game that doesn't have the problems of a normal multiplayer game.

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Captain Obvious! You`re my hero!

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Err? xD

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Implement a check so that every time you speak with your microphone, your voice is analyzed. If it's too childish or sharp, then the microphone mutes.

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Hah, good idea. That would be uesfull!

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Haha, I'm making a mod like that.
The Collector Source

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Competitive pure Steampunk survival FPS ? Imagine a Killing Floor round based survival with 2 teams of players trying to survive waves of steam golems and other contraptions with harpoon guns, steal assisted launchers, industrial era weaponry. All the while trying not to be taken by surprise by the other team while fighting the mobs.

Basically a perl level based game like Killing Floor with 2 kinds of levels. A persistent level per class which goes up doing class specific actions giving access to better weapon prices and stats. And a per game level that goes up with each kill / round survived that unlocks some weapons and accessories for the game.

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Wow.. Yeah. What about realism then?:)
Like, in level 5, just get a new weapon, or get the ability to buy it?

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Something like the supplier gives you the coordinates and access code to a weapon cache for your noted skills and ability to survive.

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Wow, thats new!

  • And good! :)
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Well from I try to imagin stuff that could be good. Other times I have strange dreams, like wanting a hybrid of Rune Factory / Harvest Moon games with a mature The Witcher world.

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Hmm, yeah I see! ^^

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