https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1327-WUJX-5722

VAC and Game Ban enabled games can either be bought for your own account, or gifted immediately. They can no longer be saved to your inventory for trading purposes. If you gift a game to someone who gets permanently banned, you won’t be able to gift that game again.

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I guess VAC and Game Ban enabled games won't be gifted very much on SG anymore...

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As long as they can be obtained thorugh retail keys, they could be gifted. Thats probably not the case of some valve games like CS:GO.

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Honestly, I doubt people will even know about this.

Unless it gets blown up by IGN and stuff.

I imagine most people won't know about this.

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F***ing monopoly.
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well, all we can say, R.I.P gifts + trading. :P

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Nonsense!

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How exactly? This only applies to a few games. There's still plenty of games left to trade and gift...

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it's applied only for VAC games? i thought it's all the games XD oh, then, my fault

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Does it mean just some multiplayer games?

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Propably, yeah. I'm not sure exactly which games it applies to, but there probably is a list somewhere of VAC and Game Ban enable games.

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I already own CS:GO and I cannot even buy CS:GO right now, both "keep for myself" and "gift to a friend" are greyed out. The messages below the game in cart says:
Your account already owns some of the above items, so you can’t purchase them again. You can purchase these items as a gift or adjust the contents of your cart to continue.

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive can only be purchased for your own account at this time.

It cannot be purchased as a gift.

What???!!

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Congratulations, you acknowledged the post.

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So how to buy it for a friend ?

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You could try to get it from G2A or Kinguin. There's still lots of giftable copies in trader's inventory.

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It seems you're the one that didn't read the main post of this thread.

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Seems like you missunderstood the post.

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How is he the one not reading the main post? Someone you gifted to was VAC banned in the past and now you can't buy gift copies anymore. The only way for YOU to gift a copy is to buy a key off a 3rd party website and send it to your friend or get it from someone elses inventory.

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I sent 2 copies to my other 2 alternate accounts and THEY ARE NOT VAC BANNED.
I want a real answer. It shows on support page the accounts I sent and there are only my 2 accounts.
Maybe they are working on it. For example I can buy L4D1 and L4D2 individually but I cannot buy L4D Bundle.

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Because you can't purchase CS:GO as a copy anymore, but you can stil gift giftable copies already bought, until someone gets vac banned.

Yeah, you are not supossed to be able to purchase that because you already have all the Sub IDs in the bundle.
Bundles are custom-made for each account.

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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. I have this game, I never nobody gifted them. Now it CANNOT be purchased as a gift.

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I though they only did that during the sales... they still do that? sucks

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Sounds like you gifted it in the past to someone who got VAC banned in the past.

Welcome to Valve, where they screw you over ex post facto with retroactive policies and then their support says they can't do anything about it.

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I wonder if there are still people saying "praise gaben" (not sarcastically, of course)

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Praise gaben.

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Not really. You can't purchase CS:GO as a gift copy anymore, doesn't matter if you haven't gifted it in the past.

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I tried putting other VAC enabled games like Insurgency and Garry's Mod in cart and the "Purchase as a gift" option isn't greyed out unlike CSGO. So it's either the rule only applies to CSGO (as in VAC enabled games) or someone I gifted CSGO to in the past got VAC banned in it. But then the guy above said he only gifted CSGO to his alts and they are not VAC banned hmm.

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This is old news, you can't purchase CS:GO as a gift since the summer sale.

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"We can't figure out how to stop people from just making new accounts to cheat in CS:GO so we'll screw up gifting and trading some more!" A genius move by valve.

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Ok, so there's obviously a problem here. The question is, who's going to make a viable alternative to steam?

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GOG is very slowly working up to it, I think. It'll be a few years before they're ready to seriously compete though.

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MS and WinStore is the only one who can try.

GOG has no chance to become alternative without breaking their own rule, as it will lack way too many games, because most of those are made by people who wants DRM.

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Uplay, Origin and Battle.net (for Activision).could also make to strong push, except companies behind those don't want to get burned trying to run their own pocket economies for differing reasons it seems. Hence no trading etc. there.

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I can only speak for myself, but I'll never buy any games from the Windows Store. Even if I could install it on Win7 I wouldn't.

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Same here. Windows is way worse than steam in terms of powergrabbing.

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Kinda sad that Valve is more concerned about the community for their one active game than they are for all their other customers.

Bad move, Gaben, bad move.

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Same as with the mobile authenticator. Some people in their games giving issues? PUNISH EVERYONE! -Valve

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I can't see how these restrictions will stop cheaters.. Anybody can just use a cc or steam wallet code, steam key on another account and keep on cheating. But this is gonna kill gifting and trading of those games for sure..

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Yeah, this won't prevent cheaters much.

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1) Buy 10 000 stolen credits cards for $1
2) Create (pay someone) script to create 10 000 steam accounts
3) Use each credit card to buy a game
4) Cheat!!

So what if you get banned? you lose nothing this way.

all for like $1 (seriously I don't know how stolen credit cards cost tho, probably bit more)

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Quick google suggests you can find it for like $1 per credit card, but that's when buying hundreds - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/30/stolen-credit-card-details-available-1-pound-each-online .

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1) Gift someone
2) That someone adds it to inventory
3) Send back to you
4) ???
5) VAC banned

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I was joking about stuff like this would be something we voted on during the summer sale. Vote on which intrusion you want Steam to force on the users. X% of users already do it, so let's make the rest follow suit.

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A good way to circumvent this is to buy keys and get it from traders. You might have to pay more but if you are a hardcore cheater or a first class asshole, then what's money to you?

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SCAM KEY PARTY!

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Well, they are trying to fix a problem, but this doesn't really fix it.
Cheaters could just buy and gift the games to a bunch of alt accounts right away and just wait until they need them. This will mostly hurt trading. Good thing keys are still free of most of this crap.

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I'm expecting patch to this update, saying "VACban will be send to all accounts you traded with".

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I wonder if CS:GO is really worth screwing the rest of the user base over.

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CSGO already had disabled gifting since Summer Sale, so it's not about it.

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"Good thing keys are still free of most of this crap."

Looking at Steam's track-record, I doubt it'll be long before they start fucking them up too.

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so if you make a giveaway and your winner has vac ban, you cant create new giveaways for steamgifts for this game? i hope the support will do a reroll in this case?

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No, no. If your winner has VAC-ban, then it's fine to gift him game.

But it might be dangerous, because if he gets VACbanned in the game you gifted him, you'll be never able to gift this game anymore.

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its sounds like every game you gift to a vac banned user, you will never be able to gift again. no matter where your user got his vac.

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Nah, old VACs don't matter.

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It actually makes sense. If you continue reading:

"How does this affect gifting?

When a user is caught cheating, their Steam account is banned from playing multi-player on secured servers. This creates an incentive for people who cheat to stockpile copies of games on one account and to gift them to low value accounts where they can continue cheating. In response to this problem, Steam no longer allows users to purchase copies of VAC or Game Ban enabled games to their inventory. Additionally, if an account has directly gifted a game to other players who have been VAC or permanently Game Banned, then that account will lose the ability to gift that game.

We’ve taken these steps to ensure the integrity of the multi-player experience for those participating in online gaming communities. We understand that the restrictions on buying to inventory may be inconvenient for some legitimate users, but we believe that these steps will reduce the number of cheaters you’ll play against. And that’s important in having an online gaming experience that’s fair and enjoyable for everyone."

THIS, makes perfect sense. The move is similar to the Anti-cheat process for overwatch. You cheat in that game, you are permabanned. Cheaters buy a new copy as a means to bypass the ban, only to get banned again. Same process here.

All this means to us, it to be more diligent with our trades and GA's, and that's a cakewalk, so I wouldn't be too worried about this at all.
Even better, just don't trade it here, and gift the games to people you know are trustworthy.

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Lots of people are buying games during -75% sale to sell them later for like -40%. Now they'll be unable to do that with all VAC games, because you can't store them.

What can be good for integrity of a game and its gamers, is shitty for traders.

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Could also mean better discounts for rest. Possibly because of that sort of behaviour the discounts in store are worse than before.

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Possibly, but Steam is just one of the stores where you can get Steam games/keys. And the others almost surely get the better prices by taking smaller cuts.

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Nah. Discounts aren't as great as they used to be because PC gamers showed they will buy games for more money.

Long time ago, when console games were like always for $60, Steam had USA releases for $40, even $30. But after Steam cured people's piracy, they upped prices to console ones, only leaving sales. And now they checked and it turns out even with smaller discounts people buy even more, so prices went up and until we all return to pirating they'll never come down.

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Let's make a big Pirare Crew then! AAAAARRRGGGHHHH! :P
Just joking :>

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Do what you want, 'cause a pirate is free

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It makes me so sad to see my friends buy so many games in the sales that are horribly, horribly discounted. I do try my best to point them at less suckier (non-Valve) stores for their just bought games, generally less expensive. And bundles.

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Makes sense. Too bad it's a blanket restriction instead of just on specific ones.

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All VAC-ENABLED games are effected.
Garry's mod
All Counter-Strike games
All Half-life games
Day of Defeat
There is a list. I'd look for it, but I don't have the time.

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I know. Plus those with game bans. Too bad it's that instead of certain games opting in to that kind of protection.

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Hey, Valve does have sane ideas once in a blue moon after all. They showed some signs when they locked CS:GO from gift purchasing during the summer sale, but now they finally realised that probably it would hurt the cheaters more if they can't just stock up on the games and continue like nothing happened.

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So let me get this straight. At this time, I have more than 20 CS Complete in my inventory. If I trade/gift one of these to someone who gets VAC banned, I can do absolutely nothing with the rest?

Also, anyone knows if this thing is retroactive?

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Doesn't say anything about trading though. And I doubt it's retroactive.

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Yeah, I realised it probably only affects older copies when you gift them. It still can cause some troubles to dispenser.tf and sites like that, but traders should be fine.

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lmao Dota players like me gonna get screwed when we gift things. o.o

And no, I'm not gifting them for profit, those gifts for my friends (they don't have Credit Card to buy from Steam).

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They keep making things worse.

I don't expect to buy anything on Steam or recommend them any more.

The funniest part is how Gabe keeps crying that Microsoft is trying to kill them off but it's Vavle that's been pushing people away this whole time.

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If we had a decent alternative Steam would be dead already.
It's really just waiting for another player, and I doubt people will hold much value to Steam's horrid system when just gifted finally another better venue.

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And what if you send a gift by email and then just save the gift in the inventory?

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Maybe I'm just blind but I didn't see anywhere when these changes will actually be put into effect. I knew about CS:GO already, but as of now I can buy gift copies of VAC enabled titles and store them in my inventory just fine. Anyone know when the changes will take effect?

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If game has VACban or GAMEban enabled, you won't be able to store it in inventory.

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Seems like the intention is to keep players from having multiple accounts with that specific game and cheating/doing something ilegal in those accounts.
I.E., if you gift a game to an alternate account and get banned in that second account, you will no longer be able to create a third account and gift the game to yourself again.

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Yup, that's the whole point of this update.

But it will also affect traders who will gift game to cheater, or even you if you gift game to some internet friend who will decide he'll get VACban in it.

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What about the, current traders with alot of games in their inventory?? will that be like voided or ... ??
i was just planning to buy csgo keys to start trading but then... eh i think i got the news early..

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I have the same question. I have several games in my inventory that are on the VAC enabled list.

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Ooooh, just think of the blackmailing!

"Thank you for the game! Now excuse me while I go get myself a game ban! Unleeeeees.... you send me a couple more of those gifts you have in your inventory. And a cookie."

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