Steam Support Article update on • Permanent Bans and Gift Restrictions (new restrictions)

I have a better idea, gaben, listen to me: when someone gets VAC banned, just propagate the VAC ban to the gifter of the game, oh, and also just in case, also VAC ban any player who played online with the cheater, oh and to anyone who chatted with him we can't be too careful!

SG need new rules: if you give VAC-protected game and winner have ban, creator can call reroll!

ok, so i'm the only that tough in.....

1-make new account (just for trade / gift games)
2-you put money in that account on sales and buy just 1 copy of the game you can gift (or more copies and you gift them at same time)
3-the guy get vac banned and can't buy again the game?? (easy, just make another account and repeat the process)
4-enjoy the rape to Valve about that new stupid sistem :).

Not a cheater nor a trader. This new rules still managed to fuck me for giving free games.
At least ill be getting those games on grey sites instead of buying them on steam like i used to.

As ever, I think VAC itself is the problem - it's always felt like more of a marketing and control tool for Valve than a serious anti-cheat solution.

In a way though, I'm curious about the potential positives of this change. If this rule is to be applied to all VAC based games and the developer can't choose to opt-out, then perhaps some of them will do the right thing and opt out of using VAC itself and start looking for/developing more suitable anti-cheat systems.

WTF Steam.....!!! its only VAC game or all multiplayer game..? ex Euro truck simulator 2

How to build user friendly system... new restrictions, new restrictions, new restrictions, new restrictions, new restrictions, new restrictions, ;_; christ god
ok i need create alt account to buying gifts, rather...

Is it you can't gift a game if you gift it someone already banned or someone you gifted but who got banned later? I am sure you can't be blamed for gifting a friend who had a clean record at that point and he got a ban after he accepted your gift? How does it work now?

Is there a list of which games have Game Bans enabled?

So wait, if you give away a game here and the winner gets VAC banned, you lose the ability to make future giveaways of that game?

Unfortunate.

I get the matter of people who are already banned (sort of, I get it as much as I get this nonsense) but we're punishing people now for stuff they didn't even do.
N I C E one! A+

RIP SG.

Soooo... Anyone think gog connect will ever become a thing?

VAC and Game Ban enabled games can either be bought for your own account, or gifted immediately.

How can you tell which games enable non-VAC game bans?

I think that this currently applies only to CSGO because i can not buy a one more copy
other VAC games there is no problem
at least the ones I already have
Think that publisher decide about buy option and not valve

way to go VOLV lol:

VAC Games: 98
Game Ban enabled : ???? ²

²... how would you look those up?

I see what is happening here. People were buying CSGO for their alts and then hacking on them. They get vacced and repeat. Now they will have to go an extra step to get extra copies for their alts.

I remember Gaben saying a while back that most people who receive multiplayer games as a gift don't make it 10 hours in, so if people were actually going to play they would would just buy it for themself.

I see why people are pissed, but I'm happy that hackers are going to be risking their main account now if they are going to try to cheat.

good idea ;)

Can someone explain the new policy to me because I'm a bit slow. Can we not save games into our inventory anymore? Also if you send it to someone who gets VAC Banned can you not buy the gift again??

Glad I stopped trading years ago. When they did the region locking at least that made sense because the devs got less money, but this is stupid.

So if I bought someone a copy of Elite: Dangerous as a gift, and they got banned, I could NEVER give anyone that game again?

That's an oil tanker full to the brim with slurry!

And that's proof I shouldn't come up with my own insults...

Do you want to boycott Valve? Buy those games from other sources, so they won't get their cut.
You could also get better discounts, while you're at it!

That does sound pretty bad indeed.

Hopefully it doesn't work retroactively...

Like imagine you traded or gave away a copy of cs-go years ago , and get that restriction cause the guy got vac....

Also I can see a lot of resellers getting quite mad at this. Although that may be the main reason / target for this update....

A second-class citizen (no smartphone, oh the hacker/cheater/obvious scammer I am!) salutes you.

And it's only going to get worse. Valve is full with stupid ideas. And about zero love for the people they torture (their clients).

guess it kind of sucks for people who trade, as now someone using hacks and cheats and crap can get you blocked from trading that game.. I guess

Bad for traders/gifters, I guess it's good for the whole community as hackers will have more difficulty getting back into games they've been banned from..