Freedom is good but should it be absloute? is mocking people out of freedom is acceptable act? is telling people things they hate to hear about themselves a fair use of freedom? Am i free as long as i don't hurt anybody? how about LGBTQ, is it a fair use of freedom?

LGBTQ supporters claims that it's a natural behaviour that is not happening only in humans but in animals too and therefore we should accept that but question is, is it enough that because animals is doing it we humans should do it or accept it among our race? aren't we an intelligent race and other races isn't? is there any other reasons why LGBTQ rights should be protected and recognised?

Covid 19 is a result of humans eating what they are not supposed to be eating and if you wanna know the crieteria of what we should eat safely you can at least eat what is known to be safe. now my wife has Covid 19 just because someone felt free to eat whatever he/she wants to eat on the other side of the planet.

i believe sexual intercourse where it's not supposed to be can have a disastrous impact on our race, if it's not medical-related then it's gonna lead to a slow exctintion of our race if LGBTQ became the global orientation due to the very low birth rate that is going to happen because someone don't have appetite towards the opposite sex, if WHO decided to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illness then i geuss Zoophilia should get the same acceptance and recognition or is it double standards?

with all respect to all human beings regarldess of sexual orientations, i'm just wondering about things hopefully i'll get some convincing answers.

let me know what you think, fellow human :)

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due to the considrable amount of awesome comments finding it irreasonable for Zoophilia to be recognised for it's not consensual -which i'm totally convinced with and it's totally different than LGTB- i had to take it back but talking about consenst, why polygamy Polyamory isn't legal when it's totally consensual?

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Do you agree with Minority rights should be recognised and protected everywhere regardless the fact it would form a big problem if the minority became a majority?

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I do.
I don't.
I'm not sure.

As a part of the LGBTQ+ I'm here to tell you...

It's not because of what people ate, it's because of how they reared them, the conditions of which they were kept in and the food they were given to eat.
It's how swine flu and "mad cow disease" TB, and other coronaviruses developed. It's not because we ate birds, pigs and cows. It's because we fed the pigs dead pigs, it's because we fed the cows dead sheep, its because we kept chickens and other birds we eat in horrible living conditions while we were rearing them.

As someone who will be someone who adopts, please also keep in mind there are too many children in the system due to so many different reasons. Before we worry about how many children we produce, we should worry about the ones already produced that have been put into the system. (Obviously not talking about the ones from tragic backgrounds, I completely understand that.)

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As someone who will be someone who adopts, please also keep in mind there are too many children in the system due to so many different reasons.

And yet a lot of countries, even those that have marriage equality, prevent same sex couples from adopting. Makes total sense.
Adopted children are wanted, which is more than can be said for a lot of children born in this world. Love is love and nothing else should matter.

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Very well spoken my dude. Me and my wife are going to adopt first before having our own kids. Trying to love some kids as soon as possible. I even have the intention of walking in and asking "Who's been here the longest?" and taking them home.

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Well, see that's why you're a cool human being to me. Warms my heart to read that. Lots of kids out there who need love and acceptance and open arms. Not just babies. And plenty people with lots of love to give. It's not an agenda, it's simple maths: love + love = love.
Sending you good vibes and luck with the future adoption and I'm damn sure you two will make some happy human beings out of those happy kids.

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tyvm my dude. Have some good vibes and antivirus energy. zip zap.

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thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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What the fuck is this dumbshit thread? Is this Something Awful circa 2003 before 4chan split the asscrack of the Internet wide open and let loose any dumb fucking idiot with dial-up?

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This leecher want to be blacklisted for some reason.

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leecher my butt, i don't care, if blacklisting is known to be used here against people of opposite opinion then i don't give a crap, you wouldn't be of any better than all dictators around the world.

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Yes obviously you don't care about anyone else but yourself. That's why your kind should never be allowed to have any rights, especially freedom of speech since only crap comes out of a mouth of a thief.

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only crap comes out of a mouth of a thief

Who is a thief? He stole your dog or something?

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I'm just showing him the harsh truth that he's lower than any of the groups of people who don't deserve rights according to him so deserves less rights. And leechers are thiefs by nature, they can take what it others' but never give anything to others. All valid according to his own logic.

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By creating a giveaway - you agree to give something away. I don't think that calling somebody thief just because he/she enters giveaways is fair.
Also calling people names won't solve problem :) You can treat this thread as opportunity to enlighten some people :)

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But saying that sexual minorities should have no rights is fair? You can treat it any way you want, I treat it as trash that I can point and laugh at while responding in kind. There is no enlightenment for people like that.

If he can pretend that his god gives him the right to decide who has rights or not, then my stats give me equal rights to decide what he is with the same logic. And my stats aren't even imaginary.

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wow that harsh and racist, is that part of being LGBT personality or it's just the way you are?

how about you just express to me why i'm wrong and why i should think it over in the decent way that would help the cause?

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Since when did I become part of any such community? Is only taking, never giving part of your community or is it just the way you are? Leechers aren't a race so hating them can't be racist.

How about you let other people have sex with any human who is willing to have it with them and think it over how you're helping any causes in a decent way by trying to deny them that right?`

I just give back to you what you brought to the table, if it feels harsh then it's all from you. If you don't enjoy it maybe it gives you a slight idea how you're making others feel?

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if someone feels bad because of the way i stated my opinion or concerns which wasn't hateful nor degrading to anybody that's a personal insecurity that i have nothing to do with cuz there also people here who is part of LGTB community who didn't disrespect me repling to my post but rather they expressed themselves in a decent way that is worth mentioning and admiration so i geuss it's the way you are then, i'm not a leecher nor a thief so don't play a guilty trip over here you mocker and racist.

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If you feel bad because of the way I stated my opinion or concerns which wasn't hateful nor degrading to you that's a personal insecurity that you have everything to do with. And still: WTF do I have to do with that community?

You literally are a part of the leecher and thief community, so don't play a guilty trip over here you hater and bigot. And still: WTF do I have to do with racists? Leechers like you aren't a race that anyone be racist against. There literally is just 1 human race.

We can go on and on as long as you wish to push your hateful propaganda here I will always respond in kind. So up to you what you want to accomplish, admit that you were stupid and now have got some sense to yourself or continue the hate.

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Can we tone down the personal attacks, please? If you have issue with the subject at hand, address it.

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We can when the attacks against communities of different people get toned down. If I have an issue with someone being a hateful bigot I respond in kind to show them the error of their ways. But since you asked, there isn't any point in repeating the same more. Either they get it or not.

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You are certainly allowed to disagree, but please abide by our guidelines as you voice that disagreement.

Personal attacks or hate speech. Threats, harassment, and slurs (e.g. insults towards a user's race, sexual orientation, or gender) are not allowed.

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He was insulting people for their sexual orientation which made me insult him for that and his low stats, both of which are his own choice. I don't have any need to go on with this, but neither will I silence my hate towards hateful people like that because I fear rules. I can accept whatever punishment actions I deem just bring on me since I think the rules should prevent people like him voicing their hateful opinions to begin with.

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I feel the need to clarify. Is hate speech only banned when it's directly attacking another user? Because otherwise this entire thread strikes me as a violation, not to mention the user's comments saying queer sexual orientations are a mental illness.

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I certainly understand your position. My own interpretation is that when it becomes personal, it becomes a violation.

However, I am communicating with other staff to make sure my own interpretation aligns with how we want to address situations like this.

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Thank you.

I don't personally see a large difference between e.g. "a woman's place is in the kitchen," and responding to a female user with "get back in the kitchen." The same sentiment's been communicated to her either way.

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You are not even level 1 son with 13 games won. I dont care about politics but you are obviously a leecher.

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if you're calling me a leecher for entering giveaways in a legitimate way without breaking any of the rules then you're fucked up but if you're calling me that just because i don't share the same opinion with you that shows your true color that you're not giving anything away in a good faith and it makes you even more fucked up.

if you're a gay don't be shy and voice out you're thoughts about it and tell me you're wrong because of this and that but calling me names as a defensive mechanism isn't gonna make you look good nor help your cause.

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No, they're not calling you a leecher for any of those reasons. It's because that's just what makes a leecher. It's common phrase here. If you take but don't give thats just what it's called. Some people will put you under the bus for that because that's how negatively they feel about it. Some people don't care because they just want to get rid of their games.
While I share the sentiment of "this site only exists because people give things away" I stand by, but I wont oust you for being a leecher.
People who don't want leechers will blacklist you becuase you haven't (and maybe wont) put back into the community.

As for me, I haven't blacklisted you, not because you're not a leecher, because by SG terms you are a leecher.
If you were like SpiceCrackhead, I would have.

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some people will put you under the bus for that because that's how negatively they feel about it. Some people don't care because they just want to get rid of their games.

and some people gives in good faith regardless.

As for me, I haven't blacklisted you, not because you're not a leecher, because by SG terms you are a leecher.
If you were like SpiceCrackhead, I would have.

fuck that blacklisting gun that everyone tries to point it to my face, it feels like "are you gonna change your mind or imma blacklist you"
i don't really give a fuck about that and if someone is willing to do it they better do it quitly cause it's not gonna look good anyway, i don't really give a damn fuck.

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You're not worth a blacklist because only silly people even make level 0 giveaways for you. You will never see any of my giveaways and I can't enter what you aren't ever giving so why bother?

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that's you're true color, most people who blacklisted me don't give to level 0 so you can shove those giveaways up in your * or **** or maybe both (you can replace the starts with whatever your imagination would take you)

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Awww, my true color is caring and sharing and you imagine I got insulted by that? :D

How about you shove some giveaways from your ***** to where the sun shines?

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Can we tone down the personal attacks, please? If you have issue with the subject at hand, address it.

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And I'm not pointing at that gun at you, I'm simply trying to make the fact that the user Starwhite is not being racist, or lynching you for your opinion or quieries. They may be fueled by that but I'm not inside their head. They are being leech-ist.
Branding you as a person who only takes and does not believe you have the good faith to give back to the community.

I was also trying to say that I have not blacklisted you because I've not seen anything come from you that makes me believe that you will not give back, maybe you don't have the money to purchase anything to give back to the community.

Some people here do give in good faith, a lot do, but over time when you see people only take and take and take and never give back to the community (not to the person giving the games but the actual community) they turn sour to them. While still giving away games in good faith, resenting those who are only here for themselves.
While we have the freedom to not be generous in return, it's frowned upon here to not have the equal good faith of giving. (While you haven't given anything away, you still can.)

Also I was just trying to throw shade and SpiceCrackhead, they're extrememly toxic where you're more... Accidently ignorant (which I can REALLY relate to with my HFA)

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And I'm not pointing at that gun at you, I'm simply trying to make the fact that the user Starwhite is not being racist, or lynching you for your opinion or quieries. They may be fueled by that but I'm not inside their head. They are being leech-ist.
Branding you as a person who only takes and does not believe you have the good faith to give back to the community.

whether you were pointing it or not it's worth mentioning.

Starwhite: That's why your kind should never be allowed to have any rights, especially freedom of speech since only crap comes out of a mouth of a thief.

isn't that racist? isn't a direct insult?

I was also trying to say that I have not blacklisted you because I've not seen anything come from you that makes me believe that you will not give back, maybe you don't have the money to purchase anything to give back to the community.

i'm seriously thinking about refraining from entering any more giveaways cause this post changed a lot of things in my head, isn't it an off topic discussion? or am i not supposed to express my opinion nor feelings just because i'm less of a human being who doesn't give back to the community? i don't understand that shit, this try wouldn't make Starwhite look better if he doesn't wanna be a better person himself.

Some people here do give in good faith, a lot do, but over time when you see people only take and take and take and never give back to the community (not to the person giving the games but the actual community) they turn sour to them. While still giving away games in good faith, resenting those who are only here for themselves.
While we have the freedom to not be generous in return, it's frowned upon here to not have the equal good faith of giving. (While you haven't given anything away, you still can.)

i think you don't know what "in good faith means", give in good faith and you'll never feel bad about it, if someone can't afford it then being generous is not an option and being called greedy is not fair, i hope that explained it well.

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You're still imagining leechers are some kind of race? They still are not. It would only be insulting if it wasn't true and I wasn't just voicing my own opinions in a completely non-insulting way.

I'm the one who needs to make myself look better or others help for it? I'm already awesome unlike you so the improvement should happen on your side if you want to ever be a good person. Now you're a hateful bigot and a thieving leecher all proven by your own actions and words.

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You're still imagining leechers are some kind of race? They still are not. It would only be insulting if it wasn't true and I wasn't just voicing my own opinions in a completely non-insulting way.

no sir calling me leecher is not racist, here's why i think you're racist

Starwhite: Yes obviously you don't care about anyone else but yourself. That's why your kind should never be allowed to have any rights, especially freedom of speech since only crap comes out of a mouth of a thief.

i wonder who you were refering to saying "you and your kind", so if i'm white then me and all white people should be subject to you're shit.
how about calling me a thief, did i steal anything from you or anyone you know?

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Huh? You're literally the only one here saying anything at all about anyone's skin color. You as a leeching thief and hateful bigot and everyone who is like you as your kind. What part of that is racist?

You seem to be the actual "racist" here since the only thing you imagine someone dislikes you for is whatever your skin color is. I couldn't care less since all humanity is still 1 race.

And being a leecher means you're the same worth as a thief, only ever taking from others.

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Starwhite But your calling me a hateful bigot, boohoooo waaah waah

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That's enough of that.

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lol in short: if you feed the trolls, they'll keep crapping everywhere so children, don't feed the trolls. Please.

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LGBTQ supporters claims that it's a natural behaviour that is not happening only in humans but in animals too and therefore we should accept that but question is, is it enough that because animals is doing it we humans should do it or accept it among our race? aren't we an intelligent race and other races isn't?

You say we're an intelligent race that shouldn't follow our natural instincts when it comes to LGBTQ+, yet you suggest to follow those instincts for male-female intercourse. So are we following them or not?

i believe sexual intercourse where it's not supposed to be can have a disastrous impact on our race, if it's not medical-related then it's gonna lead to a slow exctintion of our race

These arguments always amuse me. Man, just look at the world population growth figures. We have a problem of overpopulation, we're getting short on Earth resources, water, there's growing air pollution, ocean pollution, even space pollution. If anything's gonna lead our race to extinction it's the fact that humanity multiplies like parasites.

if LGBTQ became the global orientation

Homosexuality is rare in nature, LGBTQ+ people won't become the majority. It feels like they're growing in numbers only because more people become less afraid to come out. The whole "pride" idea is not about them being better than heterosexuals, it's about countering fear and shame of who they are (imposed on them by the society) with the sense of pride, to make more people accept the fact that they're different and stop hiding, pretending, forcing themselves to do something they dislike or downright committing suicide.

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You say we're an intelligent race that shouldn't follow our natural instincts when it comes to LGBTQ+, yet you suggest to follow those instincts for male-female intercourse. So are we following them or not?

That's the problem with that old homophobic chestnut. It used to be "if it was natural then animals would do it!" but then, well, a lot of unbiased zoologists came up and provided evidence that animals were indeed doing it... so now they're just kinda confused because reality clashes with the other old chestnut: "if you can't make babies, you shouldn't be having sex or getting married in the first place"... which is kinda invalidated by the number of old people still married and infertile straight people having sex, condoms, pills, and any other birth control method but they'll keep going like it's the 18th century.

Also Amen to everything else.

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It's christian vs muslim culture thing. Both have roots in different believes, and created different rules. So it is fine in one culture to have LGBT marriage, and in other to have polygamous marriages. But for some reason, in general, both those things do not exist together.

And as it's just cultural difference it may change with time.

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logically speaking, homosexuality is natural and consensual therefor it should be legalized, Zoophilia is not natural nor consensual therefor it should be banned, Polygamy is natural and consensual but it's banned cuz we say so (the three examples is not subject for comparassion).

you think laws should go with what is cultural and not what is logical and commonly right? maybe we should not care about women rights somewhere in the world where it's culturaly known to suppress women for example.

i don't believe christianity nor islam has something to do with culturally recognising LGBT marriage but with Polygamy yes, i don't understand why LGBT marriage and Polygamy can't exit together (talking about Polygamy for men and women equaly not from a religious point of view)

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I think that's got to do with the what ifs. Generally if two people get married from LGBTQ+ is tends to only be two people. Where as in Polygamy its more than two. So here in the UK polygamy marriage is technically only frowned upon because it's either so close to bigamy, the act of getting married to someone else while already being married. Idk if thats the same reason the US has for it.
Then there's the obvious difficulty increase to divorce, inheritence, assets, you can claim money from the government through something for being married, and if you're married twice you're getting double that...

This reddit thread is about bigamy but a lot of the points contain stuff about polyamarriage and similar disussions.

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thanks for refering to that source, i'll definitly go through it but still, if being natural and consensual is a criteria, why Polygamy isn't legal?
who cares if someone wants to have a threesome or three or more wifes or husbands? why it's so bad? isn't it the same rules applies here that i'm free as long as i don't hurt anybody?

have a threesome and you're good, have a three wifes or husbands and you'll go to jail.

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Personally, I'm against polyamourous relationships in general. So I will be a bit bias when you ask for my "opinion", but this is coming from me who would do terrible things to people who did stuff I didn't like if I was a bit more nuts than I already am. The best I can do is provide other discussions where other people can explain it better for me as to why there is less benefit to polygamy than there is benefit.
But that is where I think things will grind to a halt, I think no matter what I show you will change your mind. No offense in your part, I am a stubborn bastard and can (usually) tell when others are too, no matter how open they appear or try to be.

(oh and I only just found this comment. You replied earlier and I just couldnt find it to reply)

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you think laws should go with what is cultural and not what is logical and commonly right? maybe we should not care about women rights somewhere in the world where it's cultural known to suppress women for example.

Where did I wrote that? Where did I pointed to any form of logic? I just wrote that difference is in the cultural background. I didn't even write if I agree or disagree with it, and I surely did not write that law should be set in the tradition.

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i just didn't get the thing about LGBT marriage and Polygamy has roots in said religions if that what you meant to say, also, i don't understand why LGBT marriage and polygamy can't exist together in an ideal circumstances under a civil law since both has same criteria which is natural and consensual, had to ask you for clarification not acusing you or saying that this is what you said.

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The way you worded your response came across as accusatory, not as a request for clarification. It is difficult to interpret tone and context(?) over the Internet, hence why I usually edit my own posts multiple times.

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Honestly, I think it's a matter of making it more complicated to tax people. I also don't see anything morally wrong with multiple adults marrying each other, if everyone involved is on board with it.

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I'm sorry to hear about your wife but I don't think it's reasonable to blame it on anybody's diet. Zoonotic diseases are a result of living close to animals, not necessarily eating them. Hendra virus came from bats via racehorses in a population that doesn't eat bats. I also don't think it's reasonable to judge people for eating wildlife. Anyone that eats seafood or kangaroo eats wildlife, and a decent proportion of venison is wild harvested.
Homosexual intercourse doesn't appeal to me but it doesn't bother me, either. I don't think it's reasonable to fear for the demise of humanity due to non-procreative sex. If this is a genuine concern, maybe you should be leading a crusade against masturbation.
Personally, I don't think T for Transgender belongs in LGBTQ because it is an issue of self-identity, not sexual orientation. I understand that transvestites have been treated badly, and I take no issue with gender non-conformance, but body dysmorphia is a serious issue that should be treated seriously. I like to think that there would be a public outcry If a segment of the medical industry arose to promote sugical realisations of the body dysmorphic delusions of sufferers of anorexia, bulimia or body integrity disorder.

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that's so moderate, thanks for sharing it.

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I try to be reasonable and I don't try to upset people but I do believe in speaking my mind, even though there are people here that will put me on their blacklists for my last paragraph. I'm glad you appreciated my comments.

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accepting one another's opinion in good faith is the key for peace, arguing and swearing wouldn't help anything.

first time i joined SG i was like "why i'm not winning anything" so out of fraustration made this comment on a giveway "it seems like i will never win but thanks anyway" but surprisingly the giveaway maker decided to cheer me up replying with this "Not with that Attitude! :D Keep your head up and the world is yours!" and not just that he/she decided to make an invite only giveaway to me with that commet "Waaaaaaaay to tired to make a giveaway for this one." that really made me change my mind about how bad people has become knowing that such soul still exist, he/she don't know me and made an effort to cheer me up without making me feel that he/she feels sorry or pitty about me, i would never forget such a nice person and on the right time imma try to cheer the same person up one way or another and same for others cuz the feelings i had because of that person was priceless, i was like "is this really what this community is?"

now that the beast is showing his blue fang of blacklisting, i already lost appetite in any giveaways i'd rather buy what i want somehow when i can afford it and give in good faith than getting mocked and manipulated like this.

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I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence.

I'm glad you had such a good early experience. That's great. There are some really nice people here. I don't worry about black lists and believe they reflect more on the black lister than the members of the lists. I don't know or care how many I am on and I don't use the feature myself. As I said, I don't try to offend people but I'm not afraid of a spirited debate, and I appreciate people that speak their mind from a considered point of view even if I don't agree with them. Regardless of the black lists that you are on, there will always be plenty of people that are happy for you to enter your giveaways, so don't think that they represent the site as a whole. Also, don't let being blacklisted upset you. People have all sorts of criteria for their lists, many of which seem strange to me, although they are generally based on some sort of principle, reasonable to me or otherwise. It's a broad community and if you don't go out of your way to upset people, you will also find that some people add you to their white list. The question that you posed was provocative, and that is enough for some people to black list you. I just think of them as similar to the noisy people trying hard to be offended in real life, and they are exercising what little control they feel they have over their own life to make themselves feel better. I've noticed that some people on this page have initially reacted as if you were trolling and then been pleasantly surprised by your moderate responses to their comments. These are the sort of people that I would happily chat to if I met them in public - I think somebody that is reasonable enough to overcome their initial impression like that deserves respect, as do you for maintaining civil conduct (it seems like a basic duty, but the online world is a strange one), considering the issue of consent regarding zoophilia and reframing your argument, although you should probably take the lesson to word your questions more cautiously in future if you want to avoid inflamed responses. Feel free to send me a friend request on Steam, if you like.

How is your wife? Is she at home or in the hospital?

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thanks a lot for your kind words.

getting blacklisted or whitelisted doesn't really make a big difference to me but rather the motive behind it. I might've done some mistakes but i'm more than happy to correct any as soon as i recognize them and someone gives me a hint, my pride will never prevent me from saying sorry or admitting a mistake i made cause it's not gonna make me less of a human being. I would happily send a friend request thanks for offering it.

my wife is in a middle stage at home, thanks for asking.

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I hope your wife recovers quickly.

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thanks a lot

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I'm very worried about your profile picture.

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You just know...

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due to the considrable amount of awesome comments finding it irreasonable for Zoophilia to be recognised for it's not consensual -which i'm totally convinced with and it's totally different than LGTB- i had to take it back but talking about consenst, why polygamy isn't legal when it's totally consensual?

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The legal status of polygamy varies widely around the world. Polygyny is legal in 58 out of nearly 200 sovereign states, the vast majority of them being Muslim-majority countries in Africa and Asia. Polyandry is illegal in virtually every country.[citation needed] A number of countries permit polygyny among Muslims in their communities. Some countries that permit polygyny have restrictions, such as requiring the first wife to give her consent.

I mean it's first sentence from the wiki page. You should do more research before you try to change argument from "why homosexuality is good when zooplihia is bad" to "why homosexuality is good when polygamy is bad".

It is cultural thing. West christian culture was focused on "man head of the house" and "woman worker take care of kids". That's why this society model is based on two-person model. While in Muslim societies it was normal to have husband and few wives, so in their society model it is allowed.

And as it's simple social norm it can change with time. And more liberal European country may decide in 20 or 50 years that polygamy is ok, as long as it's consensual. Sweden already recognizes polygamous marriages from aboard.

So you can scrape this whole point as well.

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Yes, Sweden also says to women/young girls that gets grouped by several men during for example soccer cups every year that they should accept it because its a cultrual thing.

So all in the name of not being called racist they do "recognize polygamous marriages from aboard."

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nd more liberal European country may decide in 20 or 50 years that polygamy is ok, as long as it's consensual.

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with polyamory. Polygamy, however, is forced enslavement of women. It's about (surprise!) consent. Yes, that new 21st century word that is confusing so many guys and old people.

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Covid 19 is a result of humans eating what they are not supposed to

Raw. Human race have discovered how to use fire thousands years ago. It would be nice if people would use that fucking knowledge and avoid 99% of food related diseases.

sexual intercourse where it's not supposed to be can have a disastrous impact on our race

That was the case with HIV. Just use protection while sticking it to weird places. If lgbtq actually affects global birth rate... than maybe we should accept it as some kind of natural way to reduce population on our already overpopulated planet?

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The original post, combined with the OP's replies in the comments, feel like an attempt to justify his desire for bestiality...

Why do you ask others for their opinions when your response to valid arguments and discussion is repeating the same BS or ignoring the comment? This makes your attempt at discussing the topic seem really insincere. What are you trying to achieve here?

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valid arguements from whose point of view?

valid arguements according to you doesn't make them valid according to me and this post is an attempt to get to learn more about it and fill the gap between opposite oppinions and if your logic leaded you that this whole thing is to justify bestiality so i wouldn't bother by it since people are already calling me names like leecher, animal fucker, dogs ass lover, bestiality promoter just because of my personal opinion that is not hateful towards anybody so yea go for it :)

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Hey, you keep spouting how your opinion is based on logic throughout the thread but to me, it seems like you are just jumping to conclusions based on your bigotry rather than being logical. Plenty of people have offered you arguments based on actual logic and facts but all of it has fallen on deaf ears as it appears that you are not here to broaden your views but rather to reaffirm your misguided opinions.

As for the bestiality thing, with all respect to different sexual orientations, I am sorry if I have offended you. It's just that the comparison between gay people and zoophiles you have made is so far fetched, that I was certain there has to be some hidden agenda behind it, i.e. looking for justfication / validation.

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i came a cross a lot of news and debates regarding LGTB, some is promoting it and some is talking about it as pure evil and i'm not the type of people who would hear from one side and build on so doing my part of research i keep hearing that happening in animals so why it's not widely acceptable i was like "is this the onely reason that i should accept it for?"

reached out for the community trying to find more logical reasons for whr LGTB is not bad at all and also voiced out what i thought about it so far without insulting or being offesive to anybody plus i don't hesitate to say sorry if i unintentionally made someone feel bad, is this anything wrong with this or is it an ill logic?

refering to Bestiality in Conjunction with LGTBQ is not a comparrasion that LGTBQ is as good or bad as Bestialitybut rather another form of human behaviour that someone might have a desire to do it but as the same time is not covered under the umbrella of personal freedom i wondered why, got answers that is not consensual and it made sense to me so decided to apply the same criteria "consensual" to another thing that can meet with the same criteria applied to LGTBQ which is "natural and consensual" which is "polygamy" and i didn't mean it in a riligious way so i think the more prober term would be "polyamory" thanks to ET3D.

LTBGQ, Bestiality or polyamory is not the same nor similar but has something in common which is they are all human behaviour and got supporters.

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Clearly that's not how it's done since you're here right now, spewing your hatred and insanity.

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Plan on winning giveaways any time soon? Or are you a collector of blacklists?

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Another normie? Want to join in?

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I'm up for a polydebate. Wanna threebate? I'll tell you my BL number if you tell me yours.
Also, my pronoun is cunt, do you prefer cuck or cuckhold for yours?

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Alright, so as a fuck you, batty, how do you feel about your place in the LGBTQ+, seen as you're not cis.

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Oh you think LGBTQ+ is just gay? shows how uncultured you are. Or at least you cant seperate one word from the entire initialism.
Oh and soy is disgusting, I prefer semi skimmed.

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You asked if I was going to join in, so I did, and I'm unfortuantely not a cuck. I'm not suprised you want to fuck my wife and a free nintendo switch is exactly what I wished upon a star last night. I'll be sure to dm you my PO box for you to ship it to me <3

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it's interesting how people can get banned in this site for not activating games worth cents, but trash like this guy can get some days suspended and come back to spread his hate.
one would think saying these might get him a perma... 🙄

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Preach

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Sometimes it takes time to be spotted. Doesn't mean it's ignored.

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Ohoho, it's not just this thread gosh.. I think they've commented on everyone's comment.

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I'm aware, unfortunately.

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If I was projecting it would have no affect... Because I'm gay and have a wife it means I like girls, then it'd have no affect on you as you're not gay and we have the same interests xD

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237, now show me yours.

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Ah just 26, yours is bigger than mine, I guess youre the top <3

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LOL the top, I'm only a beginner who's trying to fix the horrible WL/BL ratio. It's still over 2.5 even after trying my best to get it down from the 3-4 it used to be. Real pros have like 0.0001 ratio. :)

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Ey I dont claim to be a pro. Closing on 100 WL to my name tho, gunna giveaway something big when I do. It's gunna be sweet!

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I was just explaining that I'm no pro either. You need to learn about real legends like Konrads6.

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I don't even know who that isssss ahhhh.

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Banned and a severely negative ratio, oh damn.

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That was just his most legendary thread. His blacklists were in the thousands for various reasons.

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Yeah I'm sifting through his discussions damn... This guy has a similar vibe https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/x6nGW/i-want-to-tell-you-that-there-is-no-virus-and-all-this-is-a-conspiracy

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You've been here for 6 years, I'm still a newb.

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You made it short, but it would've been more accurate and less insane if you'd just kept it to yourself.

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I mean while I don't completely agree on that, I'm sure a lot of people would be satisfied with just switching gender.
As a Bean I don't really suffer from dysphoria, I like my female body ^~^

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Hey, I don't want to be a guy, but I wouldn't mind having a penis for a day. The ability to procreate is like the only thing about being a guy I'm jealous of. Apart from that, I'm pretty good lol.

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Haha, not my thing my dude. You already know I only giveaway NSFW games cuz I don't want em xD. Curses of being a demisexual.

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Yeah I could give you a list and you'd be like "how are you even functioning?" I think the label that's been so nicely bestowed on me is a "Severly depressed homoromantic demisexual with High Functioning Autism", but personally, I don't like labels. While they are useful for finding out whats wrong with me, they're limiting at the same time. And also a mouthful.

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personally, I don't like labels

Me neither. To me, people are people, not labels. I know some are comforted by them, which is all good. I feel they're just divisive and encourage confrontation and prejudices, even in communities that should support each other's differences.
To me, you're a complex and cool human being, that's all I need to know.

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ay, we're all complex. Thats why OP made this article, and thats why people responded. We all complex af.

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Especially when, sometime in the future, human medicine will advance far enough so that one single pill can solve the problem.

lol dude. No it won't. Not even in the very very very very distant future. We barely know anything about our DNA yet and look at how much resistance stem cells are getting.

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Can't help but challenge you on that "short" but inaccurate sum up, dude.
You're thinking of transgender, not gay. Most gay people I know are perfectly happy with their form, as well as that of their partners.

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The problem is... we are not treating people as people. Everyone is human... there shouldn't be ANY different "rights" There are HUMAN RIGHTS. That's all we need, the problem is people like to separate by sex, gender, sexuality, religion, etc.... that's the big hurdle we need to pass.

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i believe a bit of one thing and its opposite is need for stability, won't feel comfortable if i wasn't tired, cold and heat, evil and goodness, love and hate so yea works for me too.

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Peace will never be a reality, there will always be people who discriminate and are just hateful, but regardless... Everyone should still have equal rights.

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Peace is an illusion, true peace is non-existence.

That, I agree on.

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the earth is overcrowded as is. if the result of increasing homosexuality is a decrease of the birth rate, then it can only be a good thing in the near future.
unless you see and want to enlighten me of any other repercussions to society related to sexual orientation, because i see none.
By this order of ideas, i should just save myself for marriage and procriation

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Oh yes man please fucking castrate yourself, eugenics all the way!

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that's how its done in where im from.

"bro" , this goes for both of your comments

Seriously man, i might as well just ignore you completely. "From where you are from?"
Don't you guys just kill each other with that sweet homemade death moonshine? thats from where you are from. Maybe human life is worth less for you guys.
however no one cares how things are done where you are from, unless you are giving us a lecture about crime

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I can tell u how its done, brrrrat brrrrat u understand that?

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I'd even propose the opposite causation: non-reproductive behaviours get higher in the overcrowded way of life as a natural regulation mechanism.

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Interesting thread and I'm willing to voice out my opinion, even if I get blacklisted by half of this site.
Homosexuality, regardless what is your stance on it, is by definition "unnatural".
And before someone says that it happens amongst animals, yes, it happens, but as a way to show dominance over the weaker male by rape.
That being said, people shouldn't be persecuted for their sexuality since they were born that way and turning them straight with "therapies" and "treatments" leads to more harm because that person won't be happy in a straight relationship and it could even lead to domestic abuse or other problems.
Personally I don't think gay marriage and pride marches should be allowed because gay non-formal relationships are already enough.
I don't care what people do in the bedrooms but when they demand special treatment from the government then it becomes an issue.
And regarding racial minorities, they are already protected by law in all first world and in most second world countries.
Of course there are still racists all around the world, racism will exist for centuries to come, but there isn't any "systematic racism" in developed countries and those BLM marches that happened recently were just an excuse to cause some mayhem in the name of "racial justice".

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Special treatment? Ofc, nobody deserves special treatment, but... Something like Marriage for example, allowing same sex marriage is not special treatment. Refusing them the right others have would be giving special treatment to straight people. Personally I think marriage is something nobody should bother with, but... If people choose to do it, that's their call, and I don't think anyone should be refused. It hurts nobody.

As for pride parades and stuff, I just think it's hypocritical to have them seeing as if I had a white pride, or straight pride parade, I'd probably be deemed as homophobic or racist due to some baseless theory that white straight people suffer no adversity, and are never discriminated against themselves, which is downright false. But on a different note on the same topic, why have pride in something you yourself are not responsible for? Pride is something that comes from personal achievement, not birth. That said tho, again, people are free to do as they please so long as it's not hurting anyone, though I wish the over sexualization in the parades would stop, especially when children are brought to them.

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Marriage is just a conspiracy by lawyers to take a hefty cut of the 50% that gets stolen after a divorce anyways. Say no to lawyer rights to scam people!

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i believe nature is not just random but it's rather systematic, following the reasons of everything would help us get to know what is natural and what is not.

someone who eats throw his mouth is just following the natural reason of why that person got a mouth and following the instinct plus acumilated knowledge about that opening in the head that is designed and equiped to recieve food so it's more logical and natural to use the mouth but if someone decided to sustain his survival throw injection or pushing food in tubes through holes of the nose then it's not natural and ubnormal.

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Nature is just random. Shit that works in an enviroment survive and shit that didn't work dies. For the species, the individual is expendable, because the important part on which evolution works is the population. There is a mechanic, but there is no purpose.

If populations survive, the species survives. Shit that works today, can be useless tomorrow, because enviroment changes.

Rinse and repeat for millions and millions of years, that's life.

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yea right, all i know is you can't grow a plant unless you put it in soil first then water it and follow all the accumulated knowledge about how to successfully grow that type of plant, if you try to plant it in the air or in water without soil won't grow unless you compensate the absence of soil some how cuz this is the systematic rules of nature otherwise you wouldn't get any outcome of it, food to eat nor even shit cause you have to eat then poop to begin with, this is the rules and that's how it's systematic.

how about your immune system? ever heard anyone calling it random immune shit that works? or is called system cause it's systematic like anything in nature?

some people use this approach to justify thier views claiming the non existence of God but if i were one, i'd just say i don't know where did all if this come from, i wasn't there when it first came and i don't care instead of denying facts.

we have the same form of human body and it's not random at all and those were just few examples, can you elaborate more about the randomness in nature giving some examples?

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That's some convoluted nonsense. First god is not needed to understand nature.

Mutation is random, natural selection is not. You don't have an "specific type of plant" in nature, you have a lot of species, with a lot of variation within. You have species so close, that they are almost undistinguishable, and species so different, that is dificult to prove they are related. In fact, that ammount of variation is which ensures survival. If all plants were the same, an small change in the enviroment, would kill them all. The fact that variety exists, ensures that if you don't water enough, you don't have soil, or whatever change do you imagine, part of the population will survive (there are plants that grows in all of that places and more)

What is a good or a bad strategy, you don't know a priori, because evolution works on existing traits. You can't predict enviromental change (well, other animals and plants can't do that, we are learning to do it, and we have pretty good models). But there is no purpose, there is not ultimate goal in life.

Life exists, and prosper through time. Was almost wiped out from the face of the earth in several occasions, but is pretty tough. We were here only the last 250000 years, Bacterias exist on earth since the precambrian, 3.6 billion years ago, and they will probably survive the next cataclysm. We have to stop thinking like we are the center of the universe.

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Regarding homosexuality being unnatural, have you heard of the "gay uncle" theory?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Gay_uncle_hypothesis

We shouldn't have gay marriages? Why should something harmless be illegal? Non-formal relationships are enough, like there is a limit to how many couples can be married in the world? :/ Not seeing the logic here at all.

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Exactly, marriage is completely unnatural. Have you ever seen 2 animals say they do want to give most of what they own to lawyers?

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Is not "needed", but there are a lot of stuff revolving around marriage. Like..., a lot of legal rights. That are like, life saving legal rights.

If you add the death of the partner to the equation, being married or not can be life scarring. Divorce is bad, but try loosing all your patrimony to a distant relative, or not being able to mourn the death of your partner.

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Yes but you can spend all of your life with someone you love, then your partner dies. Even if you have the economic part solved, the biological family can (and have in many cases) neglect access to the funerary services, or the type of ceremony, or the place of burial. Marriage can be a lot of things.

http://www.heart2soul.com/lgbt-issues-spouse-dies-partner-death

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Then you just leave a last will in their favor. Or live somewhere where living together for 5 years or having a kid together gets you treated as married financially.

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And that's super easy, right?

Getting married is a lot easier and cheaper than lawyers, getting a will at 30s or moving away. That's why many people want that right. And adopting is very difficult to unmarried couples. Same sex couples can't have children together.

And I don't event begin to talk about inmigration.

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I was of a similar opinion, until I realise that my life partner was not considered my "next of kin", and would have no say if I were to be in an accident, for example.

Marriage, or in our case civil-partnership, was the best option.

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I married my gf with a bag of onion rings and a church I built in minecraft. I have no clue where you're coming from xDD

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Lmaooo now that is another discussion. Either everyone (=willing adults) can get married or no one can. :p

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But it might be a slippery slope too. If we ban marriage next all animals can stop having baby animals and go extinct. Both solutions have their risks so it's not easy to decide which to pick.

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The nature argument is a COUNTER- argument.

Because the original argument by conservatives is that same sex relations are anti-natural, and contraries to the "laws of nature"

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Oh, and I got COVID19 when it first came to Scotland. While the origin of COVID19 is blamable, I think I'd rather lynch the woman who coughed in my face when I was taking her order for food and claimed it was asthma.
I exchange sympathy for your wife, mine is also at risk atm and I do not wish the same. I hope her symptoms clear quickly.

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can't point my fingure to inviduals i'm just ironically stating that if someone does something on the other side of the planet i might get affected by it directly and this is the case with Covid 19, the one to be blamed is people who is in charge who doesn't do thier best to protect people and give priority to economy relying on people's immune system and good luck if you have a weak one, this is how it goes at least where i live atm while my wife lives in one of the so called 1st world country that is so slack protecting it's own people, very good at mocking others instead of making proper preparaions.

I exchange sympathy for your wife, mine is also at risk atm and I do not wish the same. I hope her symptoms clear quickly.

thanks for that, i don't wish the same to anybody.

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WTF is with the B.S. posts here lately? I thought that this was a site for giving away games?

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Well, you can filter off-topic easily. https://imgur.com/qAPvfkW

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It never fails to make me laugh how people who have never participated in the forum before, have been a year and never made one giveaway, still feel this forum is the right place to troll and start up shit with strangers. Maybe Twitter is more your thing, man.

Also: there is no such thing as "minorities". It's a term that gives the wrong impression because it makes straight white men feel they are the majority. Statistically in the world, it's far from the truth. Nobody is in danger of becoming "the majority" because there is no majority. Only people in power afraid to lose it because those not in power have decided that their voices also matter.

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thanks for blacklisting me :)

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lol you're welcome. I always check the ratio of people who are posting any kind of thread and all the leeches go on my blacklist.

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good to know and sure this information is gonna be helpful to others as well, gratz for being the 140th to BL me

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I can't speak for the other 139 people but I'm still pretty sure that those blacklists have more to do with your ratio than with your trolling.
Anyway, you're now also on my Ignore list so feel free to reply me forever and have a nice life.

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'm still pretty sure that those blacklists have more to do with your ratio than with your trolling.

Nah, I don't care about ratio. It was definitely his asinine comments.

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Heh yeah I don't have enough Dicklistt for all the leeches anyway. It takes a special kind of leech.

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A little of column "A", a little of column "B"...

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Haha When people make you wish you could whitelist them twice :D

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And just because it's so on topic and this thread is ridiculous, I'll bump it one last time with love. Take that, humans!

Same-Sex Penguin Couple ‘Adopts’ Abandoned Egg At Zoo

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But penguins are the 1% elite anyways, always wearing a suit to show off.

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Haha yeah who do they think they are with their tap dancing and all?? And who made movies about them? Hollywood! Why? Pff because they're so gay obviously :P

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is this a real scientific experiment or just random stuff one gets into online eveyday?

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It's Flipper and Eve, not Flipper and Steve!

View attached image.
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lmao actually it's Flipper and Stevie. He prefers Stevie.

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I don't feel like sifting though all the comments, but typically views with this type of association have more to them than the person simply being "concerned for the future of humanity."

My unsolicited advice: focus on self improvement and educating yourself. Do some research, watch some documentaries, read some books, educate yourself in a way that no forum on the internet will and don't rely on thoughts and options of the uneducated. Better yourself and it will in turn better the people you come in contact with and hopefully, you'll get a more positive interaction and outlook with the people you interact with.

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very valuable advice, thanks

i've done a lot of research on my part and found lots of contradictions and ill logic that's why i'm reaching out for the community hoping for the best but looks like it went far from it was intended to be.

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looks like it went far from it was intended to be.

It sure seems like it went the way you intended.

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You did so much "research" and yet you still equated LGBT to bestiality, and suggested that if everyone had the same basic human rights, somehow that could lead to the end of the world.

Let me say this slowly so you'll get it.

GET. THE. F&#K. OUT OF HERE. WITH THIS NONSENSE.

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GET. THE. F&#K. OUT OF HERE. WITH THIS NONSENSE.

how about you get outta here and save yourself the hassle maybe?

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