Will they succeed ?
Take out win32, take out some business apps as well. Microsoft taking high market risks (both consumer & business), anti-consumer and would force them to develop a diversification strategy into separate operating systems for tablets and energy aware laptops that would be probably still mostly use 32-bit cpu's for a long time. Just my 2 yen.
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Newsflash: a corporation has plans to get in on a market where there is revenue to be had.
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It's one thing to compete but sleazy to try and ruin Steam via Win 10 updates. If what that Tim guy said is true, and Steam progressively gets worse, I'd have no problem switching over to Linux or something, and therefor Microsoft losing me and many others as customers.
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I unintentionally stole your comment, sorry. Here's a beer on the house.
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They already did it once with DOS games and the transitional period that was Windows 95 and 98. No reason to doubt they won't try again, Microsoft were late to the app store party with Windows 8 and are trying to catch up for lost time.
If you want to play DOS games today, you need DOSBOX. While it's unlikely that in 5 or 6 years you will be required to run VirtualBox to play all your 'old' Windows games, it's going to happen eventually.
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Tim Sweeney is just talking shit, he hates Microsoft and that's why he's spreading bullshit about Microsoft. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft doesn't have any plans to take down Steam in the future. They even confirmed that they will release new games on Steam and allowed Steam to release on Windows Phone.
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Microsoft is a dumb company. They are not succesfull at anything.
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No this is not about OS. I used Linux for a while but I'm on Windows now (for gaming ofc). I'm also a Windows Phone user (got a cheap phone which fits my needs). I'm not a fanboy of any OS or company but MS is dumb. Look at MSN, Skype, XBOX, Windows Phone. They failed at many stuff. Patents and business lisences keep this company alive I think.
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Then you can't say they are not succesull at anything. People whine all the time about Windows and yet still they all keep using it.
Windows Store is not bad, at least you can share your games with up to 10 friends :)
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Just because people use Windows doesn't mean MS is successfull. Many people have to use Windows for gaming or programs which are not available on other OSes (and this is not Microsoft's success). And I also mentioned that this is not about OS.
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If MS has money today, as I said above its patents and lisences. As long as this topic is about end user thing, I feel free to say they are complete dumb and unsuccessfull at end user stuff.
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People will be more willing to change OS than to use windows store.
It's not like "My 4000 games steam account can't be used because of a buggy client, I'll no longer use steam" will be a thing.
Internet is still a factor a lot of industries don't consider. People, especially gamers, inform themselves.
Valve is a money-eating piece of shit, but still it offers a lot of privileges that other platforms don't.
You can get free useless games that give you cards that you can sell to others to get the games you want. Nothing else does that because it's too much work.
I'm not a steam enthusiast, but I have a lot of games on steam that I will refuse to lose. There will always be Win7 versions somewhere to install that you can go back to and that they can do nothing about because you will never upgrade them somehow.
Maybe the steam community will shrink someday, but it will hardly die.
Valve bought our fidelity with cards and skins.
Microsoft reduced our choices with forced upgrades and spywares, now trying to kill the tool most of windows users have to play games. And in the worst of ways, subtly.
If I had to choose between Steam and Microsoft, I'd drop Microsoft. Mind that I didn't say "I'd choose Steam" on purpose. I hate them both, but Microsoft is the worst between them.
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According to SteamSpy, "My 4000 games steam account can't be used because of a buggy client, I'll no longer use steam" people are very minor minority.
According to SteamSpy, to be in "1% of people with most games on Steam", you only need to own a bit over 100 games.
According to SteamSpy, to be in "20% of people with most games on Steam" you need to own whole 4 games...
In the end, people abandoned their PS3 libraries and went to PS4. In the end, if MS would become new PC Overlord, people would abandon Steam and go wherever next-big-AAA-game is...
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The people that is really active in the steam community and that will care about this is probably just 10%. That's still a MILLION of users.
That's people informed, potentially willing to revert back to W7 to keep steam.
It's not even 0,1% of people using Windows, probably, but it's still a huge amount of people to keep a community running.
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Great. Now we need Randy Pitcford to confirm, Peter Molyneux to state that his studio was closed down as part of a global conspiracy (not because it was a bottomless money pit with no results), and maybe Tim Schafer to come up with something even more sinister, and we have all nutjobs saying MicroSoft is the Satan, yadda yadda yadda. rolls eyes
Somebody really should tell Sweeney that we are not in 2001 any more.
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I LOLed with the Molyneux thing because of those three I think that one could actually happen.
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in five years, people are so fed up that Steam is buggy that the Windows Store seem like an ideal alternative.
Windows Store seem like an ideal alternative.
ideal alternative
I can't stop laughing xD
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Well, regardless of the current state of Windows Store (dreadful)… people really seem to have forgotten what Steam was like in the first, oh… 5-6 years after its launch. (Heck, people don't seem to remember that Steam started out as the single worst piece of shit DRM any human ever created for a software.) So Steam itself is proof that an unusable shitty piece of trash software can grow into a market-dominating lumbering giant.
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Sure, but Microsoft isn't the +75%off type of company.
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Good point but even if they will make better store some people will have problem with leaving behind their >1k games steam libraries xD
In the meantime microsoft proved that they don't care about their customers. Many games just stopped working (at least mp part of them) with gfwl. Not that I can say anything about it. GFWL collapsed before it reached my country xD
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They put all efforts into making Xbox profitable. On one hand I cannot blame them as consoles looked like the actual next step of gaming and they are still a large part of the video game market, but on the other hand they mishandled the PC gaming portion so bad, it was a PR nightmare that probably not even the best spokesperson could have explained to the media and the consumers.
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