If anyone is wondering what happened here:

  • I asked a tricky question
  • A majority didn't like that such question was even asked and no debate should be taken
  • It escalated quickly confirming that there is an issue
  • The words I originally used were far from the whole problem, as pathetic things (double standards, witch-hunt, plain lying, informal fallacies, personal attacks, ...) kept coming after I edited.

Moral of the history? We deserve the world we live in.

You like edits? It's sunday and this is still active
PS: to celebrate the witch-hunt, now my BL is empty, now many will need to support their arguments in another way.
The metrics to fill my BL were diverse, I spent months giving away games to leechers, so I tried to fix that on my own with limited success...
CV from russia is not real, you get to high ranks with very few gifts.
I gave away recently 3 non-bundled games, none of them were played yet. What are we doing here?

Should winners that don't play won games be able to enter more GA's?

Technical issues are just goals for coders, a matter of time if you will. The ignorance about this on SteamGifts was unexpected and all over the place.
As a human being in the 21st century, you may be interested and want to learn something useful here https://www.coursera.org/course/cs101
Standford University, for free. You have no time? Even next summer break? I figured.

Also, complexity is not an excuse to deny a problem. SteamGifts is full of bundles, poorly rated games, very few gifters and plenty of us.
After the poll got over 100 votes, I claimed most of you are hoarders and leechers, you got mad and replied deviating the conversation. Everything else followed.
The truth is in the poll and in the comments in many forms and very few facts, I should have forseen that, my fault.
Though, using your very arguments, we should still be in the dark ages, where most of your thoughts, rethoric and ethics belong.

Let's use our time to read and gain some ethics:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger

If you pay attention, anything with several people involved can show patterns, individual behaviours and basically useful data that may explain some things:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect#Use_in_politics
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

According to the DSM, I'm probably wrong about the hoarding thing though, the reason it's quite scary as most may suffer something else that is causing it... :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoarding#Human_hoarding
If you feel any kind of distress frequently, please, go see your primary care physician, and talk to someone else too.
Regardless, everyone should work out, get some sunlight weekly if you can, eat well, have personal projects...
Anything that gets you away from collecting game licenses and projecting hate towards others.

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Should this be punished?

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Never
After 1 month
After 3 months
After 6 months
After 1 year

Backlog issue and sometimes I want to win a game because I already played the pirated version of it, it's just my way of saying sorry to the developer

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i got insulted once by a russian child and his friend because i didn't play the game i won. it's not that i won't play it but in steam my library is so full that it's normal to don't play it immediatly and neither in few months. and if i want a game so hard to play it immediatly i would just buy it and not only hope to win it or i can die by expectance.

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my backlog is my problem ... i only have buyed games in there i have 47 games won by now and only 2 of them not played yet and about 5 or so just played a litte so fight your backlog !

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It's easier to click the "+ Enter Giveaway" button than actually playing the game.

I myself keep a "Giveaways won" tab in my steam library which I check every now and then when bored or having finished another game.
Sometimes I get hooked up by the game and actually finish it, and sometimes I just lay it back again.

I also do enter only wishlisted games (which I have a lot tbh), and those that are given away in large numbers 50+ being highlighted on the starting page.

If you want people to play your gifts, make threads for them where you ask people for reasons why they want to win it, and let them enter your private GA. Takes more effort of course, hence why few people do it.

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A 'giveaways won' tab is a good idea. I think I'll make one too.

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Another +1 for the great idea!

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I feel like you shouldn't enter giveaways if you don't intend on playing the game. Leave entries for those who actually need a game to play, or for people that will actually play it sooner rather than later. Ive only won two games (trying to focus on giving more or less than winning for the moment) and they both went straight to near the top of my list. I also only enter giveaways for wish listed games. Why is it imperative to have your collection grow when you aren't in need to do so?

Id like to know how people with a huge backlog feel about winning games that others would actually play in this lifetime :P.

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No, never.

I only enter giveaways for games I have a clear intention of playing, but life catches up with me and I only played a handful of the ones I've won... other times other games are just of higher priority (Darkest Dungeon > Broken Age)

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The question you ask is based on the assumption that SG is a site for charitable giving, meant to gift games to those who need them and would play them. It's nothing of the sort. SG is a random trading site, where people put up their games for others to take, and enter for other games, with those who give more (and typically need less) having a chance to win more. This question therefore isn't relevant.

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Definitely not a few months, rather half-1 year, if not even more if one would want to imply it. Still, for example I actually entered for Uriel's Chasm and won it when I was new at the site, in a giveaway group, free games ooooooh baby... and I got physical uneasiness from it when I tried it about 2 weeks* ago. Some games of that era are the main reason I really, really pick what do I enter for.
While it would be nice to winners play their wins (I'm working on it, but what to play? Games that I won and others paid for, or games myself paid for?) but I think the even more important goal would be is to enter for games one would play. Entering only because it has cards, or simply because one doesn't have it are thing I can't comprehend, but this is like real life - if nothing else, I can still control myself and stand up to my own goals and ideals. But I can't push others to fit it.

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"Amazing" idea! But can you tell me, why you have 0 minutes logged in Bioshock 2, which you apparently won here 7 months ago?
If you create a rule, it should be applied to everyone, even to yourself. So you'd create this rule that would punish users, who didn't play their win even after 1/3/6 months, but you'd fall into your own trap.

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lol

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Does that mean that there is an issue or not?

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Geosmin, by the way, I just realized you have blacklisted me. You are well within your right, of course, but -- mind me asking why? Is it because of my reply below, of was it something I said earlier?

Sorry to pollute the discussion with this -- I will delete this comment later if you wish so.

Cheers!

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You were blacklisted prior to this and not because something you said.

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Ok, do you know why, if I may ask?

I will take my revenge on you -- you are now in my WHITELIST, and I will only remove you from it when you remove me from your blacklist.

So there. :P

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I make it a point to exclude everything I win from Idlemaster because I want to actually play those games. When that will happen, no one knows. (I try to at least try them all in a reasonable time frame, but currently Fallout 4 is preventing me from doing that)

The point is, people could just idle games without even installing them. There is no way to know if someone actually played a game or not. While I only enter for stuff I genuinely want to play, and I hope entrants on my own giveaways do the same, the truth is you can't enforce what a person does with their winning. As long as they add it to their library, I just move on and hope they do enjoy it at some point.

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(I try to at least try them all in a reasonable time frame, but currently Fallout 4 is preventing me from doing that)

I will not judge you, we all have our burden to carry, and you are doing your part.
Keep up the brave fight - I salute you.

Thanks for your sacrifice

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Attempting to punish someone because they don't subscribe to your ideal is the height of absurdity.

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Can you stop editing your topic title please? I've clicked this exact thread 4 times (each time with a different title) thinking it's a different discussion and it turns out to be the same one each time. :|

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Lol really? That's kinda funny. I've just logged in and this is my first click leading to this thread so far, we will see how many times I will appear here. :-)

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Backlog? Currently have alot :l but completed some

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You should have seen it before/after each of the significant op edits.

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This fella is somehow "peculiar" (to put it kindly), his past threads were just flame-starting discussions and nothing you say can change his mind (maybe because the intent is trolling us all?).

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I add people who play their wins to my whitelist. I don't think people should be punished for not playing their wins, we don't know how busy they are in real life. Ok, some are just hoarders collectors.
If this bothers you, buy only games you enjoyed and think about it as supporting the developer.

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happy cake day

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A few months ago (well, more like half a year or more) I was looking through my games list and saw some titles that I remembered wanting to play and kept entering giveaways for, but then never got around to playing. Any time on it would be just idleing for cards. I felt really bad about that. Where did the time go?! Also I noticed that somehow I had acquired over 2,000 games! When did that happen! So I decided to only enter games I really, really, really, really wanted to play right away. (Or ones in my giveaway group that had zero entries to help out the giver's ratio). Now I hardly ever enter public giveaways, even the mass ones. When I see a giveaway I stop and think, "Do I have time to play this in the next 6 months or will it just sit there?" and "What if someone really wants to play it and I win it and it just sits in my backlog". There's no telling if the winner actually plays a game for fun or just for card drops. But I hope for the best, especially struggling Indie games.

tl;dr - people can have good intentions to play a game but time flies, man.

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Well imagine the gifted games here would be physical copies, I guess then you might reword your question to:

"How much later after giving someone a gift you will sneak up on them and take your gift back because you changed your mind and believe that there's someone else who deserves your gift more? Possible answers are: After 1 year, After 6 months, After 3 months, After 1 month, Never."

How does that sound to you?

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i will play my won games after im finished with DOTA2 :D. bcos now im addicted to dota

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No, and in addition, they should be made to wash my car. :X

I would hope that people only enter for games they wish to play, but since that's not always the case, I have no expectations of winners.
People have real lives, things come up, jobs, relationships, school, etc.

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...cars to be washed... :P

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One of the pitfalls of purchasing a white SUV. :(
It always needs washing.

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Leave it covered in mud. Cars that look like the owner doesn't take care othem don't get stolen ;

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I only enter in giveaways of games that are in my wishlist. So it means i want them. If i earn it what i will do with it and when it's my problem i think. We have a lot of rules here: No repost a Key, Use the key in YOUR account (aka don't gift it to a friend), etc... Now you want to post a new rule? A "play as soon you receive it or you're punished rule?", seriously?

The other rules at least make sense...

I have a life...

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I'm not too concerned with what a winner of my giveaway would do with the game they won. Even if they just used it to grab some cards to sell and never played it - at least they got something out of it. Am I to consider them evil or unworthy because they didn't do what I expected of them? There are far worse people in the world than those who would scoop up a free game purely for the sake of getting 30 cents out of it.

I can understand why it would be more desirable to have someone genuinely enjoy a game rather than use it for money or stats or whatever, but I just personally don't think it's a big deal either way. To me, as long as the winner isn't being a jerk, they can do whatever they please with the game they won.

Just my opinion.

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This is the most beautiful poll I've ever seen!

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