Some time ago I commented on a thread sharing part of my story, and I noticed that the topic was very interesting for many so I'd like to open the discussion to a wider range of audience, and also understand how ways of thinking change according to countries.

Long story short: I was born in Romania and lived there for 9 years, then I moved to Italy because my mother found a job here. I grown up in Italy, went to school and university in Italy, have italian friends and cook italian food BUT I don't have a italian name, so every time I have to give explanations about it, and so sometimes people change their behaviour towards me.
Most o the time it's simple distrust, like when I went to a friend's home and he told me that his parents spent half an hour to hide their belongings and jewelry when they knew I was coming. A couple of times it came to open statements like "you will never be italian", "your people are all violents and thiefs", "you should go home to where you came from".
The very most people here are not like this, I have lots of friends and know lots of awesome people so I will never blame the population for these episodes. But still they happened, and became more frequent in the last years with the arrival of immigrants on our coasts. If I'd had to say what I feel to be, I'd say italian for sure because it's the only culture I know and have, but lately I started to question myself "will I ever be fully accepted in this society or my name will be an obstacle for my lifetime?".

I've made a poll and I'd like you to share your opinion, and if possible, to say where are you from.

I've also added 10 sweet giveaways for you:
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What does it take for you to consider someone your co-citizen in your country?

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Citizenship is something given only by DNA, and I find it hard to consider citizen someone that has no roots in my country
Citizenship is something given only by DNA, but I consider also people born and grewn in my country as my people
Citizenship is something that can be acquired, trough assimilation of my culture and respect of laws
Citizenship is something that can be acquired, trough respect of my country's laws but one can keep his own culture as long as it doesn't go in conflict with mine

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hard to tell. Nationality is sometimes misleading. but sometimes there are no bad people in different nationalities.
After the war, some people still splashes out on the German nationality of the bad. but there are also good people there. a few centuries might have changed people's attitude towards other nationalities.
I am from Ukraine, Dnepropetrovsk.

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сложно сказать. национальность иногда обманчива. но иногда встречаются не плохие люди в разной национальности.
после войны некоторые люди до сих пор выплёскивают на немецкую национальность плохое. но там так же встречаются хорошие люди. спустя несколько столетий возможно у людей измениться отношение к другим национальностям.
я с Украины, Днепропетровск.

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If you live and are a part of country and you contribute to it,any way possible,you're a citizen of it.

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Shitty people you will find everywhere, even if you are born, raised and most of your ancestors from the same country, there will be times you will be attacked by people by the way you speak, by the way you look and what your nationality is. I have been both attacked for being a citizen of my country and for being a "citizen" of another country (they thought i was from another country and spouted their hatred at me).

The reality, some people will hate on you for one reason or another. The only things you can do about is, is shrug it off, still be friendly towards the haters and go on with your life. Don't focus on the negative, the news is already doing a dandy job at that, so you shouldn't have to do it too.

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Different cultures is hard to understand when we are not born in it. We need empathy, and it's something we have to work to get. Some of us are lucky enough to have parents to teach it to us, some not.
But, there is common ground, and it's "people".
We often forget "others" are people too, with joy, pain and suffering.

We create tags to put on people to separate them, make them feel like outsiders, and in the same time dehumanize them.
Everyone stole, lied or hurt. And everyone shared, cared and loved.

You are a citizen of earth. Welcome :)

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For me all people are the same until somebody proves that black is white. think outside the box(borders). Bump

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You missed the option for "Citizenship is given by having a passport/id card" :D
I was born in one country, lived throughout my life in several, have passports of yet another, parents are from yet even more, grandparents even more, and I'm currently living in a different country.
Maybe I'm a star citizen :P

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Sorry to hear you've faced discrimination. I'm assuming the people that made those sort of comments are pretty small minded, and I doubt you'd want their support in any case. I've had the opposite experience in the country that I've moved to, and people are very welcoming. Personally I'd say that as long as you are law abiding and your beliefs and actions don't interfere with other people you should be free to live where you desire.

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I think you are mixing Citizenship with Nationality

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Whats with those

'I've also added 10 sweet giveaways for you:
6y7rq'

How to enter this gibs?

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My opionion on the matter is quiet simple i think.
As long as you think that you belong to a country and wish to change it to better but still keep the positive history of the country high... you belong to that country.
Laws are important, but they can and should be changed if necessary.

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The number of people that voted for the DNA answers surprises me. Anyways have a bump.

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Speaking about names , I have really unusual one for my country. My parents were on vocation to Brasil when i was more or less about to come out and they somehow thought giving me such name is a good idea.

I really hated it then i was younger but started to love it in recent years. I'm now impossible to mix up and such name also helps with a ladies. Thou i constantly get questions about my name and have to repeat it or spell it letter by letter. People are just not used to such name down here. Few of my friends even thought it is a nickname of sorts then we first met. Thou i never received any mistrust or any negative behaviour because of it. Only curiosity.

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I don't feel connection with my country, it's just patch or dirt I was born on. So all those "nationality" thingies don't have any meaning for me.

I'm human, I have 2 legs and 2 arms, and I want to spend time with other H. sapiens sapiens which share my point of view, believs and values. And learn something along the way, while comparing differences in cultures in which we were growing.

And I think it's harmful that people tend to say "I'm Polish, so I'm like x or y". Or that "You're from other country, it's not your land!". FFS, it's just part of Earth crust, surrounded by imaginatory borders. And in fact it's in constant motion, like Australia is moving up north, and they had to change their GPS coordinates some time ago to compensate it. We should change our governmens long time ago for some form of hive mind, and live happily without shooting people for crossing borderline or for seeing black guy in all-white country.

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Citizen is just a government nonsense title given to those they authorize as such.

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The polls show a very American world view.

does that make it a correct one though?

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as someone who didn't vote for the highest rated one ...(yeh probably)

how do you do the hidden text thing

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:-o

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My dad (born and raised in the US) met my mom (born and raised in Germany) when he was stationed in Germany. They fell in love, and when my dad was called back to the US, my mom went with him. They got married in Tennessee (my dad's home state), and, after living here for 15 years (the length you have to live in America before you can become a naturalized citizen), my mom renounced her German citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen. She never lost her accent, and she had a German name that's uncommon here, but she was very passionate about the USA and the opportunities here--she voted in just about every election she could, learned English fluently, got a college degree and a job (before becoming a housewife), etc. I'd fight someone who said she wasn't a "real" American just because she happened to be born in a different country.

imo, Americans who are anti-immigration are hypocritical. The vast majority of Americans, with the exception of people who are 100% Native American, are either immigrants or descendants of immigrants. Even my dad is descended from English immigrants who came to what's now Virginia in the 1500s. If someone who wasn't born here but has lived here for decades isn't American, then nobody who isn't 100% Native American isn't American. And as for assimilation--the European colonists who came here didn't exactly assimilate into the Native societies they ran into...why should we expect new immigrants to completely give up their culture in order to assimilate into a society which, frankly, is based on the culture of a bunch of Europeans who explicitly refused to assimilate?

It probably doesn't mean much since I'm not Italian, but as far as I'm concerned, you are absolutely Italian. Just because you also happen to be Romanian doesn't change that, just like how my mom was absolutely American even though she happened to also be German.

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