So, work now blocks the Steam website. I can get to it through a proxy, but I can't log in. This is quite disconcerting as the Summer Sale is around the corner. What do they expect me to do at work if I can't get to the Steam website?

Thank goodness Steamgifts isn't blocked.

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While it's not blocked you might not be able to login through steam any more. Don't log out, you have 2(?) weeks max.

You could call in sick for 2 weeks.

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An unrelated anecdote. A friend of mine called his boss and told him he wasn't able to work that saturday because he "was really sick".

Later that day, he found his boss in the Megadeth concert.

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That story sounds really familiar, except my friend found his boss at a Metallica concert

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Sounds familiar to me too. I skipped a lecture to get to a Real Ale festival before the queues formed, found the lecturer in the festival.

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Heard the same story, except it was Justin Biebers concerto.

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same story here, but this time i was justin bieber, meeting jack black in the supermarket

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I saw this on an episode of Monk once.

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I actually ditched work to go see that episode on TV and found my boss in my bed.

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You have no idea how disturbing i find this. Also, When i ditch work, i don't have to call in sick, i call it a "homeoffice day"

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Well clearly your boss isn't an attractive middle-aged blonde :P

But I would trade her for homeoffice days!

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lol. yes you would, my homeoffice days usually look like this: Get up around noon, let computer run scripts to remotely disable AD Accounts. It involves a lot being really lazy, and being paid a full day for being lazy.

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I'm in the wrong profession!

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My boss isn't an attractive middle-aged blonde.

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My boss bought Bioshock Infinite preorder. "Unlucky" he fell ill on premiere day. Then we saw him available on steam, playing Bioshock. During job time.

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Get a new job.

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VPN?

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Mobile

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Exactly!

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+1

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If you have a smartphone with a data plan, use that. Steam official android app allows you to buy games and chat with your friends.

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this

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Or use any broser. Plus no data plan can be solved by the bar next to the office (if they have wifi)

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If you have a smartphone I think there's a steam app?

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this.

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Try connecting via IP?
Or use a proxy.

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by proxy you probably meant web proxy like the proxify you could use your internet browser's proxy system and find a proxy ip address and port (they are listed for free on the internet)
OR you could sign up for dial up at one of the resident numbers at work, and hope that works =p

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Remote connection to home computer with teamviewer/ssh vnc connection.

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This^ or you can use CyberGhost VPN

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Use something like Teamviewer and shop through your PC at home.

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lol, good idea!

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Maybe working? And then going on Steam once you are at home?

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This.

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And miss all the flash sales and some of the dailies maybe, too. And possible price glitches, like what happened with Sleeping Dogs during last year's summer sale. Because buying a game on Steam would really amount to losing tons of work productivity. Right.

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You can easily get a friend to buy it for you and pay them back. Also this could be healthy in limiting what you want to buy...

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2 words: Self. Control. There's no substitute for it, and when you do try and substitute it, you end up becoming a weaker person for it that will more easily fall for marketing hype or a crap deal, and further become a creature of impulse in general.

As for the friend buying stuff for you - you'd need to go out for a break to call them to get them to do this for you, which really would cut in to your work time and would be a fucking pain to have to do.

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Or just tell them ahead of time and send a quick text whenever you see a game you want. Would actually be quicker than buying it yourself.

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Definitely this, it isn't hard... and as you've said yourself "Self-Control". If you tell your friend what you want to buy before hand and ask him to get it if it's on sale, is that not part of self-control instead of bothering your friend to buy you a game that you "think" you might play?

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tell them what games to get and a percent it'd be worth it. if you spend so much time here people you know are probably doing the same anyway. but do you know anybody well enough for that?

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I manage a 60+ network, and last month we put in a new router. We haven't blocked anything yet (other than the defaults, ie. porn, malicious, etc), but flagged all time wasting sites, apps, etc. So far we're finding that the average user is off task over 20% of the time, and with the minimum being nearly 10%.

So yes, browsing the sales, reading a quick review, and purchasing games amounts to lost productivity. And that's just the time spent; it doesn't account for the preoccupation, you mind off task.

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You're comparing some stats from your router, in your company, concerning time spent on all the various sites you consider "off task", to someone who might see a game on Steam they've been eyeing for a while already on sale, and mulling over buying it or not (which can be done at the same time as work). What a wonderfully useless comparison.

Opening the Steam site, looking what sales there are, and how much time is left on those sales, all takes no more than a minute or two, tops. As I already said, you can consider buying a game or not as you're doing actual work, after you check the site. That's not comparable to actually interacting with a web site, like reading personal email, looking at funny cat pictures or youtube videos, etc.

Then there's the issue of whether or not you should allow people at work, especially in an office, to do "off task" stuff to begin with. Logic would dictate that the best option is a resounding "no", as the more time spent on work, the more productivity it would seem. But studies show that that's not true. When people are doing stressful, effort-intensive work that takes a lot of thought (IT work for example), having a minor distraction present frees the mind up and relaxes temporarily, changing brain chemistry and allowing a shift of focus for a moment, which actually helps you remain on-track for much longer than someone who's constantly trying to wrap their head around one thing. Our brains are wired to look for new input all the time, not stagnate on one thing - the mind gets bored and wanders, or goes in to an auto pilot mode as it seeks new input. Also, when people are working in a relaxed way, and are allowed to spend a couple of minutes each hour doing "off task" stuff, their productivity increases. Especially towards the end of a work day. This is especially true when talking about people with somewhat of a higher intelligence - they seek multiple things to focus on much faster.

Of course, you do need people who a) have a good work ethic and thus b) actually want to do the work, along with providing clear oversight of work load and expected results (something a lot of companies fail at miserably anyway), all three of which take good management and staffing (which most companies also aren't exactly stellar in) to avoid them falling in to getting constantly distracted and spending too much time on these off task things.

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Nice rant.

To be clear, I don't hang out checking router stats, but this is what they tell me. More importantly, I'm familiar with the studies, and this is why nothing is blocked. I'm continuing to collect data, then I'll present what I've found. You are also correct that people prefer freedom and choice.

From what you've written, though, you don't seem familiar with the studies on preoccupation, and the average time to get back on task after a distraction.

/arguing online

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I am absolutely familiar with those studies.. Preoccupation suggests a true distraction, mainly interactive tasks such as reading personal email, or tasks that require a lot of focus and attention. We're talking about maybe watching a few simple youtube videos (so no, no half hour long philosophical theorising), maybe going to imgur and flicking through a few images. Those aren't mentally demanding tasks, and as long as - again - your employees are actually motivated and hard working to begin with, the transition back to work isn't a cause for large delays or lost productivity. Especially with what we originally were talking about - checking the Steam store page twice a day (see my comment to aElder) for a few minutes at most, to look at sales / purchase a game.

I've headed multi-departmental project groups in various IT positions before, and have led projects meant to increase productivity so I know how work distraction works. That's why I keep mentioning motivation. A good manager / project lead knows how to keep his employees happy and cooperating well. That counts for a huge part of it all. People's willingness to do the work and have a sense of fulfilment and accomplishment when done.

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As you describe it, is checking the site every x minutes and have your brain pending on that all the day. So yes that is losing half of the productivity.
UselessB has explained it better.

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As sales last no less than four hours (maybe it was even six, I forget which it was for flash sales), if you wanted to see all the sales, you'd have to check Steam no more than once every four (or six) hours.

There's no way that that would cause significant lost productivity.

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In fact they are 8 hours. My message was based on the one I replied, and that sounds as be checking every now and then to get price glitches. And for sure the brain pending on that, even if you aren't aware.

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Poor you D: I'd suggest the mobile app too as I use it a lot on the go as well, but still, not the same as using the webpage/client :D

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+1 but it's slow sometimes.

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Mobile webpage / app?

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Does your boss not let you go home? o_o''

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Now blocks as in they didn't before?

Unless you have a bunch of new employees that are all PC gamers, chances are you're the one who pushed them to block the site and now you're looking for ways around it? They're probably monitoring you a bit heavier now. I'd laugh if you get fired because of something so stupid.

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Ya, they recently blocked all gaming sites. SG isn't blocked tho!

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Recently all the blocks vanished at my workplace for about a week. Don't know why it happened but they found out and fixed it. But in that time I spent all my time on steamgifts.

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Tell your Boss about steam sale. Maybe he play games too and let you log on to steam.

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perhaps they expect you to work? just a wild guess! :D

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If your job isn't Steam website watcher, then why the hell do you need Steam website at work? D: .. maybe he blocked it because he's expecting you to... work? That's what common sense is telling me D:

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Use a VPN.

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Your phone, use it.

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Came to say this. During my work week, I make purchases with my phone. The Steam mobile app is pretty user friendly during the last summer seal.

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It used to be quite useful, but it refuses to even log in for me now. It asks for the Steam Guard code, but doesn't accept the input. Instead, it keeps running that rotating animation forever that they have while Steam thinks its logging in.

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what if you disable steamguard temporally for the time you're at work during the summer sale?

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I suppose that can be done, yes :-)

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Are you using an android phone? Because I'm getting this exact same issue, and it annoys me to no end.

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Yes, its an android phone, and it is annoying as hell.
I really don't know why I even have the Steam app anymore. I ought to just remove it, but I'm holding on to it anyway 'in case there is an update'.

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Why do you assume that everyone has a smartphone?

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Exactly, I don't have one... The phone I have is so ghetto, it doesn't even have any web capability... at least it only costs me 5 dollars a month!

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I don't understand. You don't have an iPhone?!

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Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no...

let me reiterate.

Helllllllllll no.

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yep, I don't even have a normal phone. But I probably should get one... >.>

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You can try to download the Firewall Client for ISA-Server from Microsoft. It works well for me, and it is an official program. It can manage to find your proxy automatically and pass through the proxy like it does for me :)

Here is the download link : https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10193

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Don't you have a smartphone?

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you could trade the games you've missed from traders later for a little higher price.

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Maybe find a trustable middle man to buy for you ?

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Just use your desktop with something like LogMein just log in to your account via browser and use steam on your home computer remotely!!

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Great idea!

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+1 This is probably the easiest solution aside from using a smartphone. I sometimes use Splashtop while at work to stream 3D games from my home PC to my work PC (the ones that work best are strategy games like Civ or Total War because the mouse mechanics don't cooperate very well with FPS or MMOs).

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