Do you want to upgrade your Desktop/Laptop?
CPU: i7-3770k stock
MOBO: asrock z77 extreme6
RAM: 16gb ddr3
GPU: asus rog strix 1080ti
Storage: 1TB HDD + 240gb SSD
External Storage: 2TB HDD (being used on xbox one for gamepass) + 1TB HDD (backup personal files unit, was previously being used on a ps4 as extra storage for games)
I'm going to try and milk this rig for the current generation of consoles. My CPU/RAM/MOBO are an issue going forward, but i feel like i can stretch their usefullness in terms of gaming for this generation. My biggest concern right now is getting a proper SSD for gaming, as games are now being focused on SSDs, not HDDs and 240gb isn't enough for gaming.
From what i have learned, in the future, whenever i upgrade my rig or make a new one, i will aim for a mid range CPU that is 1 or 2 steps ahead from the current "minimum recommended" for gaming at the time. I'll go with a ##60 gpu or equivalent. ##70 gpu is usually the best thing to go for since it offers acceptable high end performance at a decent price, but i got a feeling computer parts and MSRP pricing will just go up in the future. Just look at the rumours/leaks for next gen GPUs, they are literally making an even larger jump in performance from the looks of it between 2000 series and 3000 series, so the pricing will go up again on the 4000 series gpus. At this rate, buying a 3000 series gpu second hand might be the optimal way of doing business, once the 5000 series are released, lol.
So my upgrade will likely look something like this:
CPU: i7-15700k or AMD equivalent (i will go for the one that has less power usage)
MOBO: no clue, something that is future proof but not excessively overpriced
RAM: 32GB minimum, most likely 64GB, DDR5, perhaps DDR6 if they advance it fast enough
GPU: ##60 from nvidia, perhaps ##70, depends on price and power consumption, or other brand equivalent at the time
Storage: 1TB SSD + 1TB SSD (i like SSDs when it comes to performance, i just don't trust them for long term usage, my first SSD died in 2'ish years, current one i use is working for 6-7 years now, same SSD, just double capacity of first one)
External storage: i'm likely to still use the current external HDD by then, if they still work. Just to back up old files that i might not need but having a backup is still a sure way of confirming i don't screw myself over
So yeah, i don't see myself upgrade my pc untill at least 2025 or so. Assuming the current gen of consoles is short lived since pc technology is advancing too fast.
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I currently have a MSI ICORE 5 9TH GENERATION. its a laptop. but space is so small.
next update for my new computer would be a desktop with more space and I5 OR I7. depend on the price. i try not to spend so much on computers. and reason is i cant build it my self. so i have to buy it complete.
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Well, if you'd live nearby me, I'd be happy to help you build it. 😅
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where's the wants to and could afford to but is too lazy to look into things so she doesn't upgrade - option? :P
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I guess you made it! 🤣 Anyone else can comment below you.
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I have insomnia tonight so I'll type all this out on my phone to kill time :)
Built this in 2018-2019 over the span of a year, buying pieces one at a time on sale when I could afford it. Some parts were carried over from old system. I do not plan on upgrading for several years. My last build lasted me about 10 years with small upgrades here and there over the years.
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB DDR4 3000
Case: Corsair Carbide 200R
PSU: Corsair RM850x
GPU1: EVGA Geforce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB
GPU2: ZOTAC GeForce GT 710 1GB (PCIEx1 card)
SSD1: Samsung 970 EVO Plus m.2 NVMe
SSD2: Samsung 860 EVO SATA
HDD Controller: LSI 9211-4i SAS controller
HDDs: 4x WD white label 14TB 7200rpm drives (zfs raidz array)
ODD1: ASUS BW-16D1HT (blu-ray burner)
ODD2: LITEON Premium DH-16AFSH PREMM2
ODD3: Plextor PX-760A (PATA attached via USB adapter)
USB Controller: Inateck KT4006 2-port USB 3.0 card
OS is Gentoo Linux, and also using KVM/QEMU virtual machines. Specifically for gaming I am doing hardware pass-through of the 1070 card and the usb card to a windows 10 VM which I have connected to a second monitor/keyboard/mouse/usb hub so it's like I have 2 computers side by side, but really running from the same box. The windows VM is for gaming only (it has 16GB of RAM dedicated), I do play some Linux-compatible games in steam (flatpak) but usually am streaming the games from the virtual machine using steam link on my tv or remote play. There are some cases with really old games that don't work in 64bit windows or whatever anymore but actually work okay in Linux using proton. Like old GTA1&2 for example.
The ODDs are from when I was doing an archival project ripping thousands of movies and music CDs. But now I basically never touch them.
My only regret of this setup is the motherboard, it works great and I've never had a single problem with it, but it only has two full sized pcie slots. I wish I had gotten one with 3 so I could stick another real gpu in there. Prices are insane now though so I'm not going to sweat it. Right before covid hit I was looking into maybe getting an m.2 pcie bridge adapter and rigging up an external GPU running through the m.2 slot. But it's probably easier to just get a new motherboard instead of building an aliexpress Frankenstein's monster. Maybe someday when GPUs are cheap again. 😂
My laptop is a 2012 era Lenovo y510p gaming laptop, originally came with windows 8 and two GT750M GPUs in SLI, I've removed the second GPU to reduce battery usage, and disabled the onboard one, so I'm just using the Intel graphics. Even with a 9 year old battery it still lasts a few hours. Nowadays I got rid of windows (it was not windows 10 compatible) and it's running dual boot of Ubuntu and Mac OSX, but I mainly just use it for remoting into my desktop at this point (or streaming steam games from my desktop).
Laptop I may replace soon, I really don't care about gaming on a laptop, my main wants are a good matte screen at least 1080p, a good keyboard feel and a good layout for programming (WHY DO THEY ALL SUCK???), big battery with long life, and easily user serviceable parts (I don't want to need to take the keyboard out to replace RAM or a wifi module, for example). I don't mind if the laptop is a fatty.
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GPU1: EVGA Geforce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB
GPU2: ZOTAC GeForce GT 710 1GB (PCIEx1 card)
You're the first person I see with 2 GPU's that are being mentioned. So let me understand this straight if you have a TI, you can attach anything else to it? I knew that if you have for example an GTX 1070 TI you can only attach another GTX 1070 TI.
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In this case, it is not two GPUs combined in the traditional way (SLI) but two distinct GPUs being used separately, at the same time. Each GPU is attached to its own monitor.
Basically, one GPU is used by Linux, other GPU is used by Windows (virtual machine). Similarly I am passing USB ports to Linux or Windows separately so I can have one keyboard & mouse on linux and another on Windows.
You can read more about this type of setup at https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/ if you are crazy like me :P
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Oh I understand now, that's a cool setup. I think your office is quite busy. 😅
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Intel® Core™ i7 11700F
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
Kingston HyperX Fury 32GB (2 x 16) C16 DDR4 3200MHz
Samsung PM9A1 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
Seagate Barracuda 4TB 7200 RPMHDD (2017)
1000W Power Supply
Liquid Cooled
Windows 10 Home 64-bit English
Intel® Core™ i7-7700
NVIDIA® GeForce GTX™ 1070 8GB GDDR5
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16) C15 DDR4 2400MHz
Intel 660p NVMe PCIe M.2 2TB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM HDD (2011)
Hitachi 80GB 5400 RPM HDD (2007)
460 Watt Power Supply
Liquid Cooled
Windows 10 Home 64-bit English
For two different places, since university is a thing. Honestly, I'm fine with what I have, with the top one being for personal use and the bottom one being for school. If you're wondering, the bottom one used to be the one for personal use and the while I was switching drives, I also found some random hard drives that still worked that we hadn't gotten rid of, so I figured might as well slide it in.
Have no real plans for an upgrade, since the only real upgrade would be a replacement for the second pc and I don't think that'll be neccessary until the tech from 2019-2021 is basically old news
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For two different places, since university is a thing. Honestly, I'm fine with what I have, with the top one being for personal use and the bottom one being for school. If you're wondering, the bottom one used to be the one for personal use and the while I was switching drives, I also found some random hard drives that still worked that we hadn't gotten rid of, so I figured might as well slide it in.
It can still hold up looking at it, so I don't see why would you throw it away. 🙂
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Upgraded yesterday.
I went from a
ROG-GL752VW
17,3" Full HD-skärm
Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ
16 GB DDR4 / 256 GB M.2 SSD
NVIDIA GTX 960M
Intel Skylake
to a
ROG-GX703HS-KF077R
17.3-inch, 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) 16:9, 120Hz, 3ms, 500 nits
Intel® Core™ i9-11900H Processor 2.5 GHz (24M Cache, up to 4.9 GHz, 8 Cores)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3080 Laptop GPU With ROG Boost up to 1645MHz at 125W (140W with Dynamic Boost)
2x16GB DDR4, 3200 MHz
1TB + 1TB + 1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 RAID0 SSD
Finally I can raise the graphics settings in my beloved and just as hated Tarkov.
And I can start looking at some wins/purchases made lately, that my old machine really couldn't handle. Interesting times ahead!
And if you wonder why I spend this ridiculous amount on a laptop when I could get even more 'bang for the buck' if I built a stationary instead - I work as a merchant seaman Captain, spend more than half the year away from home every year, travelling to different ships, different countries. Anything except a laptop just will not be feasible for me. Possible yes, but not feasible as it would be a huge inconvenience during all that travelling.
happy noises
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ROG-GX703HS-KF077R
17.3-inch, 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) 16:9, 120Hz, 3ms, 500 nits
Intel® Core™ i9-11900H Processor 2.5 GHz (24M Cache, up to 4.9 GHz, 8 Cores)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3080 Laptop GPU With ROG Boost up to 1645MHz at 125W (140W with Dynamic Boost)
2x16GB DDR4, 3200 MHz
1TB + 1TB + 1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 RAID0 SSD
That's a really beefy PC. May it hold you up for many many years!
And if you wonder why I spend this ridiculous amount on a laptop when I could get even more 'bang for the buck' if I built a stationary instead - I work as a merchant seaman Captain, spend more than half the year away from home every year, travelling to different ships, different countries. Anything except a laptop just will not be feasible for me. Possible yes, but not feasible as it would be a huge inconvenience during all that travelling.
That sounds like a really nice job you got there that mixes with gaming. I like that! 🥰
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Thank you. I have to admit, I have never owned something this powerful (even relatively speaking) - so I really hope it will last. But you know, laptops.......
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9900k
2 way Sli 2080 super gigabyte waterforce
msi MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC
gigabyte g750h
32 gb ram viper 3200
gonna upgrade my rig next year
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dunno. somethin with ddr5 and sli for sure.
most likely i will keep my sli setup . just socket change
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I just got the I5-11400 and the price/performance ratio is absurd. You can find a few reviews online. There's nothing in the current AMD lineup that compares to it. Paid like 180USD with the integrated graphics(you can get the F version, without graphics, for cheaper)
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You paid quite a good price I should think, but maybe I'm wrong. I remember seeing it a lot more the CPU I wanted to buy and maybe that's because it was 1 year ago.
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Yeah its standard MSRP from Intel I guess. But fact is: performance wise, getting a better/more powerful CPU will not make MUCH difference. You're better off spending the extra on the graphics card or a NVMe SSD(I grabbed one and oh my god its faaaast. No more loading times.) Check the comparison with the much more expensive Ryzen 5600X https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-11400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/4112vs4084
One thing most people don't realize is that we've actually reached a plateau when it comes to CPU. The fabs are now trying to make the CPUs more energy efficient, smaller, instead of faster. I know it has a ring to it but a 5Ghz CPU will provide you little benefit compared to a medium-range, but will cost you much, much more. Consider the I5-12400(newer version) paired with a 3080 and you won't be disappointed.
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CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz
MOBO: ASUS TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS WIFI
RAM: 32 GB DDR4
GPU: AMD Radeon RX Vega 56
Storage: 1 TB SSD, 2 TB SSHD, 1 TB HDD (+4 TB NAS)
I'm good for a while with this desktop, the only thing I'm planning to upgrade in the "short" term is the GPU. I would love to get my hands on a RX 6800 if prices ever go back to a somewhat normal level.
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I'm good for a while with this desktop, the only thing I'm planning to upgrade in the "short" term is the GPU. I would love to get my hands on a RX 6800 if prices ever go back to a somewhat normal level.
I hope they do for everybody's sake. The new GPU's are coming out and I bet you not they will sell like hot bread.
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I've made a new upgrade yesterday, had updated my current list. Thank you all for your suggestion! 🤗
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Old system:
3570K
GTX 1060
16 GB DDR3
500 GB SSD & 2 TB
New System (Nov 2020):
5600X with ASUS ROG B550-F
EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra
16 GB DDR4
1 TB NVME SSD & 2 TB
My core parts were on the high end of what your upgrade estimate costs, though I payed less for the 5600X than your upgrade CPU.
I got the CPU first since it was easier to get it on launch. GPU I had to wait in front of a Microcenter store 2 different times before opening.
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My core parts were on the high end of what your upgrade estimate costs, though I payed less for the 5600X than your upgrade CPU.
Prices may vary depending on the location and time we live in. Prices of components were crazy last year, and this year they aren't any different. The different CPU manufacturers can say a lot and Nvidia and Intel stay on top of the chain when it comes to pricier components.
I got the CPU first since it was easier to get it on launch. GPU I had to wait in front of a Microcenter store 2 different times before opening.
I'd only hope to get the 3080, but I'm not sure I'd be lucky to get anything from a local store unless it's a used component like from CeX, where yesterday evening I've seen the PS5 for £695.00 ($922.44/€815.11) which wasn't too bad considering how difficult it is to get one online.
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well, you could describe my rig as a ship of theseus
started 2015 with building a pc with scrap parts that we found my base was a
cpu: athlon x2 -> phenom II x4 955 -> fx 8320 -> ryzen 5 2600x
mobo: am2 mobo (oem unknown, distributed by pleomax) -> gigabyte am3+ 780t-d3l (overheated vrm) -> asrock 990fx extreme 3 (still overheated, but managed to cool it with a downdraft cooler) -> x470 gaming pro
cooler: stock cooler -> modified be quiet drark rock lp with a noctua nf-a14 industrial ppc 3000 pwm (had bought it via a friend, no contact anymore and the fan broke) -> wraith spire (stock cooler) -> arctic liquid freezer II 240
ram: 2gb ddr2 -> 4gb ddr3 -> 12gb ddr3 1333 -> 16gb crucial ballistix 3200
gpu: radeon 5770 -> gtx 260 -> gtx 660 -> r9 290 (sadly started to crash and artifact. most likely damaged memory) -> gtx 1050ti (slight downgrade performancewise)
hdd: 700gb samsung (oem seagate, still in use today)
ssd: wd green 240 (first ssd for my pc, well put more money for a good ssd, saves a lot of trouble, sold it for 80% of my purchase) -> wd black 750 1tb -> samsung 980 1tb (secondary ssd)
case: pleomax oem case (dents, bents and scratches everywhere) -> cheap built "gaming" case with rgb -> another oem chassis -> corsair carbide 100r (this case teached me to look on the specs, cooler space was limited) -> be quiet pure base 500dx (got it for 60€, sells here normally for 90€)
psu: cooler master b 600w (trash) -> be quiet system power 9 700w (ok for its price, doesnt like my r9 290) -> seasonic focus gx 650w
mostly plan to upgrade the gpu and as long as the gpu isnt changed i wont put a penny in my pc, i'd rather put it in cars as long as the price are high as fuck
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It's good that you still keep track of where you were and where you are now. Are you planning to get your hands on any kind of GPU? Or do you want to build an AMD-specific computer?
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nah, just take whatever has the better price/performance ratio. atm i gave up on a gpu, i'd rather wait until 2023 or 2024 and wait and see if they implemented the new atx12vo standard they planned to switch over. cooler, case and ssd should be plenty for 5 additional years. i don't care from which company my parts are from. they are after my money, not after my shilling :D
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I've been thinking about a nice-looking case, but again, I don't have the office space to place it up there and enjoy looking at it, so I have it tucked under my desk, where I don't see much of it.
My case is an NZXT Phantom 410 ATX Mid Tower Case, but I've been drooling over a case like Corsair Crystal Series 680X RGB High Airflow Tempered Glass ATX Smart Gaming Case and I'm thinking of getting either the Black or the White version.
I really like the style of it and it would probably be the only insignificant upgrade for me because the case I have is alright, but if I want to make my PC look a lot better, this would be it.
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if we talk about cases, my favourite lookwise is the lian li lancool 215 for the bigass 200mm fans on the front or the o11 air dynamic/ evo. on corsair side i like the 4000d airflow and my favourites are the fractal meshify 2 and the bequiet silent base 802 for anything, desktop, workstation, nas, watercooling if the price is right
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depends on the use case, bottom of the barrel parts 50€ max for a case, for a standard build i'd consider 80€ as a good enough price to get great cases and for niche thing it really depends. i had the meshify 2 in my mind but really, my 500dx is for my hardware more than sufficient.
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I've personally never considered having to spend a lot of money on a case just for it's looks either. Practicality comes in mind, although I don't want to have an ugly-looking one either.
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function follows design, cooltek eins basic + one or two arctic p12 fans and you got a sub 50€ component enough case for the money. i can assure you that it is really thin metal and got those one time pcie covers bot it does is job and cooling is also no problem. rgb and/or glass was never in my interest and as i said, i took the 500dx for the price and functionality, not for the asthetics. infact the rgb is off and the glass isnt even visible under the table. and if i were interested then i would take the lian li o11 evo or the silent base 802 to reverse the case that my glass is on the right side
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RGB isn't my interest too, but I'd go for a themed look to tell you the truth.
Blue and white/gray have always been a significant part of my game appearance and I'd love to reflect that in my setup.
If it was the case, I'd probably go for a white case with blue light, something similar to this.
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ATM my specs are:
Monitor: lg 27gl83a-b
CPU: Ryzen 3600
MOBO: Asus Prime X470-pro
RAM: Ballistix 32 GB @ 3600
GPU: Palit 3080ti GamingPro
Storage: 256 SSD (OS) + 1 TB SSD (Games) + 2 TB HDD
Soundcard: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus
Case: BeQuite SILENT BASE 802
The final touch should be the Ryzen 5800x3d. After that, I consider the build complete and do not plan to change anything for 5 years.
I'm using PC for games in general.
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The final touch should be the Ryzen 5800x3d. After that, I consider the build complete and do not plan to change anything for 5 years.
Is it easier to find an AMD graphics card at a cheaper price? I've not checked to tell you the truth because my mind was mostly set on an Nvidia RTX.
I'm using PC for games in general.
Have you've considered a console instead? It saves you more money I should assume.
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I'm already have this PC. I want to upgrade only CPU for 5800x3d.
Console is not my cup of tea.
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Wasn't for me either my first solution, but I would choose them to save money if I was to just game on it.
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Desktop: Ship of Theseus (metaphorically speaking)
Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHz
GT 8600 512MB (XFX Edition)
DP35DP
2x 1GB DDR2
1x 250GB HDD
Laptop: Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition
i5-6300HQ @ 2.3 GHz
GTX 960M 4GB
2x 8GB DDR4 (Only had one stick until last year, didn't really intend on keeping this laptop for this long originally.)
128GB SSD + 1TB 5400RPM HDD
The desktop has been my pal and friend through the thick of it, got upgraded plenty of times and went from that old school PS/2 connection Floppy Drive having PC to what it is right now. The 512MB VRAM was pretty useful in keeping it alive and man, that CPU was a total beast. Sadly this PC kinda just now sits at the corner of my room waiting for me to find some use in it. Stereotypical old PC as well, sometimes you gotta shake it around to make it work, the PSU connection is kinda finicky so you gotta prop it up somehow or find the perfect spot and there's a few less than blunt areas on the case so mind your hands. Did teach me a bit on how to work on PCs though, both software-wise and hardware-wise. I still keep planning on using it as a server PC or to off-load stuff remotely on it to help out my laptop cause the CPU is lacking on that. Do wish I kept a list of what specs it had through it's entire life.
As for the laptop, it was my grand purchase in 2017, shoulda waited for the 10-series in hindsight but eh, took me like 4 years to finally get it and I wanted to actually play modern games. Right now it is chugging extra hard and I really wanna upgrade but I can't, best I could do was make sure the other RAM slot wasn't so lonely anymore. I would get more and better speed storage if I could but eh, money's tight. My little turbine jet of an oven's gotta endure it for a little longer.
Would like something such as a Ryzen 5900X RTX 3090 with a 1TB SSD + 4TB HDD beast so I don't have to worry about either performance or storage for a long long time, and finally being able to play anything I want, cranked to the top or in VR with a smooth experience but eh... before it was a hard task to achieve but now it seems like an impossible to reach goal with the current PC Market. Not that I am not used to having to play at below minimum specs, I just want to experience the high life of PC gaming at least once in my life. Plus I've been in this VR bandwagon for as long as back in 2006 with the "3D Images" hype. One of these days...
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The desktop has been my pal and friend through the thick of it, got upgraded plenty of times and went from that old school PS/2 connection Floppy Drive having PC to what it is right now. The 512MB VRAM was pretty useful in keeping it alive and man, that CPU was a total beast. Sadly this PC kinda just now sits at the corner of my room waiting for me to find some use in it. Stereotypical old PC as well, sometimes you gotta shake it around to make it work, the PSU connection is kinda finicky so you gotta prop it up somehow or find the perfect spot and there's a few less than blunt areas on the case so mind your hands. Did teach me a bit on how to work on PCs though, both software-wise and hardware-wise. I still keep planning on using it as a server PC or to off-load stuff remotely on it to help out my laptop cause the CPU is lacking on that. Do wish I kept a list of what specs it had through it's entire life.
I was about to think about servers, as I've just recently learned about it from a YouTuber:
Would like something such as a Ryzen 5900X RTX 3090 with a 1TB SSD + 4TB HDD beast so I don't have to worry about either performance or storage for a long long time, and finally being able to play anything I want, cranked to the top or in VR with a smooth experience but eh... before it was a hard task to achieve but now it seems like an impossible to reach goal with the current PC Market. Not that I am not used to having to play at below minimum specs, I just want to experience the high life of PC gaming at least once in my life. Plus I've been in this VR bandwagon for as long as back in 2006 with the "3D Images" hype. One of these days...
For the same reason, I want to upgrade. I like my game visuals to be up. I really want to get my hands on a VR, like the Valve Index, but I can't afford both a video card and a VR headset of that value.
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Thanks for the video, I've actually been thinking of turning it into a server for about half a decade now, just never fully committed to it. Perhaps I should stop putting this task away any longer and actually do something with it.
Also yeah, the dream of top tier PC performance. I hope the market settles down soon and we are both able to experience it.
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Let's see how the 4th generation of RTX's treat us.
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How much did you pay for the Aorus GeForce RTX 3080 MASTER Rev 3.0?
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It did cost quite a lot, to be honest, compared to what the closest price to MSRP is. But that's okay, after all you've got a good GPU.
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I made a highly questionable choice on my most recent computer, but I have my reasons which I'll explain.
I'm using a 2019 Macbook Pro, part of the last of the Intel based MBP's before they all switched to the Apple made CPU's. It's a bit above the entry level model with the following specs...
MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019)
2.3 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9
16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4
AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 4 GB
1TB SSD HDD
I can run Resident Evil 2 or 3 on medium to high settings at about 45 FPS but when I tried running RE Village, I found myself having to switch most graphics options to their lowest or near lowest settings to get a decent frame rate. Running Guilty Gear Strive was even worse and even more revealing in terms of showing the limitations of this machine.
The reason I went this route was mainly twofold. First, I had no choice but to go with something mobile because my current living situation has been, is, and will continue to be in flux and constantly changing. I never get to stay in one place for too long. And second, as many reservations as I have towards Apple and the way they work to limit what their customers can do with their devices, I grudgingly accept that they do use quality parts and that Apple products hold their value as long or longer than the computing devices from any other manufacturer.
That being said, I have a 1 TB HDD and 750 GB is dedicated to a Bootcamp installation of Windows 10. Initially I wanted to try to learn more about the inns and outs of Mac OS's and I had it set up with only 250 GB in Windows and the rest devoted to OSX but after awhile, even though it required installing Windows 10 from scratch and wiping everything out, I eventually bit the bullet and reformatted and upped my Windows 10 install to 3/4ths of my HDD instead of 1/4th, and if it wasn't for a pesky memory leak involving VLC media player that makes watching movies more stable in OSX, I would get as close as possible to putting all of it in Windows. This version of the MBP is also the last edition that allows for Bootcamp installs of Windows and from what I understand, you can still run Windows through Parallels but, and I may be misinformed, but from what I've read it has limitations that Bootcamp did not have.
I very much wanted to stick with a PC, and I thought about a "gaming laptop", most specifically looking into getting a Razer Blade, but my previous experience with a laptop that claimed to be built for gaming was an absolute nightmare. About 10 years or so, maybe a little more, I got the first edition of Alienware's M11x, an 11 inch laptop that was for gamers and it was nothing but a disappointment. It overheated, even external cooling devices could not prevent shutdowns when I ran games at full settings, and almost immediately after the MFW ran out, the hinge, which was made out of plastic, began splitting apart which led to a sheet of plastic that covered the screen to start lifting off, which led to dust ans debris getting under the plastic and right up against the LCD screen itself. I ended up selling the thing "as-is" on ebay for less than a third of what I paid for it less than 2 years after I bought it. The only reason I wasn't more upset about the loss was the fact that I was working at an electronics retailer at which I was able to buy desktop parts that were actually below cost that resulted in me being able to build a desktop that ordinarily would have cost about the same, if not a little more than the original purchase price of the M11x. So I lucked out and walked away from the whole ordeal essentially unscathed. But it taught me a couple of HUGE lessons. One lesson was never buy anything "built for gaming", it's always better to build something yourself. And second, gaming laptops might conceivably be flawed from the start because of cooling issues. Sure they were able to cram a bunch of power into a really small laptop but they left zero room for cooling and that flaw could very well apply to all gaming laptops for all I knew. The only reason I even risked having the exact same issues again was because as much as I hate Apple, I believe in their build quality enough to take the risk and I believed that, even if this thing craps out on me once my warranties expire, someone out there will still want the thing for parts at least because of how irrationally loyal Apple customers are to Apple devices, so when the time comes to move on, hopefully I'll be able to get something out of this thing that I can use towards my next machine.
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One lesson was never buy anything "built for gaming", it's always better to build something yourself.
That's so true. I agree with this statement as whenever I check prebuilt systems, they are a little bit overpriced and never contain what I want. For a laptop is tricky. If you wish to only use your laptop for gaming, I'd recommend considering a console, like the new Steam Deck that is coming out as it will be a lot more affordable and if we're lucky, we get to have a great experience with it. I have high hopes that Valve does a great job and delivers on a quality product.
The only reason I even risked having the exact same issues again was because as much as I hate Apple, I believe in their build quality enough to take the risk and I believed that, even if this thing craps out on me once my warranties expire, someone out there will still want the thing for parts at least because of how irrationally loyal Apple customers are to Apple devices, so when the time comes to move on, hopefully I'll be able to get something out of this thing that I can use towards my next machine.
I've had mixed feelings when I was younger about Apple's products in the past, but as I got older, I've started to understand that there are a few things that they are standing out over all the other brands out there: consistency and somewhat of a quality.
I don't own a Mac and if I would, it would be primarily for work only as gaming on a Mac is not as developed, and why most people opt for a gaming laptop or a desktop PC. Both Mac and Linux struggle at this point to keep up with Window's power in getting games to work. I really do hope that options arise for Mac and Linux in the future and it becomes easier and easier for you and other uses to game.
If anyone find your decision foolish, ignore it. It's your money and your choice to make. I don't wanna argue with that as I've got no right and you know better how you invest your money and what you believe it works for you.
Stay safe out there!
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Thanks for the kind words. I have gotten a little bit of flack for my choice, but like you said, I don't let it get to me. I know my priorities are a little out of whack; I drive a used car that I bought from a friend of the family and, partly because I got a really good deal, I actually spent less on my car than on my Mac. Just saying it makes me realize how crazy that is, granted though I live in a state that does not have mandatory vehicle inspections. Here in Ohio if it starts and moves down the road, you're good to go.
I will say this though, I am very much looking forward to the Steam Deck. I have the mid range one reserved and I'm currently in a mad dash to come up with the money before it launches. I'm worried that I'm not gonna have the funds in time and I'm wondering what the policy will be if people who reserved it can't pay on launch day. I'm hoping they won't automatically bump everyone in this same position.
But the Steam Deck is right up my alley and who knows, maybe if I'm happy with it, and if my living situation changes for the better and becomes less nomadic, then maybe I'll look into making the change to a desktop.
I am a bit apprehensive though. I have made the leap and purchased many failed mobile gaming devices. Aside from various Gameboys back when I was a kid, never going beyond the Gameboy color, I went on to purchase every version of the Sony PSP; the original, the slim model that still had a disk drive, the PSP Go, which was a huge disappointment because at the time, there were never any sales on the Playstation Network. Since then PSN has grown and tried to become competitive with other digital distribution services, but back when the Go was out, it was always cheaper to buy physical copies of PSP games which the Go could not use having no drive for physical media. For me the only saving grace for the PSP was through custom firmware and emulators. In effect, it became little more than my portable 2D fighter machine. I went on to make the mistake of buying a Vita, and also the Nvidia Shield Tablet which amazingly ran a version of Half-Life 2, but unfortunately never caught on and never reached it's full potential.
So here I am about to take the plunge and get the Steam Deck, a handheld console whose price rivals the MSRP of current next-gen systems. I just really hope that I'm not making another mistake, and more than that, I hope that the system isn't a failure for Valve. I never want to see Steam go the way of Direct 2 Drive, Impulse, and other digital download services and although Steam being in financial jeopardy seems so unlikely, it's risky moves like this that have spelled defeat for many other gaming companies.
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Thanks for the kind words. I have gotten a little bit of flack for my choice, but like you said, I don't let it get to me. I know my priorities are a little out of whack; I drive a used car that I bought from a friend of the family and, partly because I got a really good deal, I actually spent less on my car than on my Mac. Just saying it makes me realize how crazy that is, granted though I live in a state that does not have mandatory vehicle inspections. Here in Ohio if it starts and moves down the road, you're good to go.
I keep reminding myself that I should get my driving license. I'm 30 right now so I don't wanna travel all my life by communal transport. Any car would do really for the start.
I will say this though, I am very much looking forward to the Steam Deck. I have the mid range one reserved and I'm currently in a mad dash to come up with the money before it launches. I'm worried that I'm not gonna have the funds in time and I'm wondering what the policy will be if people who reserved it can't pay on launch day. I'm hoping they won't automatically bump everyone in this same position.
But the Steam Deck is right up my alley and who knows, maybe if I'm happy with it, and if my living situation changes for the better and becomes less nomadic, then maybe I'll look into making the change to a desktop.
I felt the same, as I could not be sure if I'd have the money to get one. But since there are delays on the Steam Deck, I'm hoping it will take a while for me to get it when the 512 GB comes out. I'll be patient and I hope to be able to get one with my well-earned and saved money.
I am a bit apprehensive though. I have made the leap and purchased many failed mobile gaming devices. Aside from various Gameboys back when I was a kid, never going beyond the Gameboy color, I went on to purchase every version of the Sony PSP; the original, the slim model that still had a disk drive, the PSP Go, which was a huge disappointment because at the time, there were never any sales on the Playstation Network. Since then PSN has grown and tried to become competitive with other digital distribution services, but back when the Go was out, it was always cheaper to buy physical copies of PSP games which the Go could not use having no drive for physical media. For me the only saving grace for the PSP was through custom firmware and emulators. In effect, it became little more than my portable 2D fighter machine. I went on to make the mistake of buying a Vita, and also the Nvidia Shield Tablet which amazingly ran a version of Half-Life 2, but unfortunately never caught on and never reached it's full potential.
I own a Switch, but Nintendo games aren't my cup of tea so that I can say I'll be playing on and on. Steam has been my biggest library of games and I love computer games, so having it on a deck it's awesome and I'd be most happy to be able to carry it for games that don't require much graphic fidelity or massive controls. I'd rather play Hades on it than on my PC for instance because controls are easier on a console.
So here I am about to take the plunge and get the Steam Deck, a handheld console whose price rivals the MSRP of current next-gen systems. I just really hope that I'm not making another mistake, and more than that, I hope that the system isn't a failure for Valve. I never want to see Steam go the way of Direct 2 Drive, Impulse, and other digital download services and although Steam being in financial jeopardy seems so unlikely, it's risky moves like this that have spelled defeat for many other gaming companies.
Me neither, but as far as I'm aware, Valve did a pretty good job at delivering a quality product. The Valve Index is still to date one of the best VR headsets that I'm personally looking forward to obtaining one day, just that the price kinda scares me to be fair. Idk if I'd be willing to pay for an entire system £919.
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I really like how much support the Switch has gotten when it comes to indie games. That was a huge attraction for me but when I did have the money for one they were impossible to find other than from resellers who wanted ridiculous amounts.
I'm not much of a Nintendo fan either, I haven't owned one of their systems since GB Color and N64 but I've always thought that I would love the newest Zelda and Nintendo consoles are always good for surprise hits that come out of nowhere and then take forever to make it to other consoles or PC if they get released elsewhere at all. Resident Evil 4 getting released originally as a GameCube exclusive is still shocking I think.
But yeah I think Valve really did work hard to put a lot into the Deck and still offer it at a reasonable price. I was just reading a review on PC Gamer of another similar device called the Onexplayer Mini which features lower specs than the Deck and still costs well over $1k. I'm not expecting the deck to play Stalker 2 or a Crytek release at 60 frames per second but I would like to see it being able to play the RE remakes at a decent rate. That being said, my favorite games aren't usually very demanding and I was happy to see my current favorite Rogue Legacy 2 on the list of Steam Deck Verified games. Hades, which you mentioned is also on there and as much as I love both action and traditional roguelikes, I haven't played it yet. I think if things work out I'll be picking it up on the next sale I see once I have the Deck and it might end up changing what I look for in games on Steam. I own Mad Max but have never played it myself and now that it's on that list, that should change. Also I it might make me less demanding. Games like Knights of Pen and Paper, which I never considered as more than a game intended for mobile phones, might suddenly be good enough to justify buying on PC.
I'm really hoping this is a success and something like a good VR headset is out there on the horizon for me too, at best. Around 500 bucks is the most I can sink into my next gaming related investment and for a long time I wanted to stick to Sony because of the console companies, their network is the place where I own the most stuff. But my Steam account blows my PSN account out of the water so this is perfect and hopefully won't end up being too perfect/too good to be true.
PS - Don't beat yourself up over not having gotten your license but if having your own transportation will be a big help, go for it, you can definitely do it. If public transportation wasn't pretty limited where I live I wouldn't own a car myself, and I'm grateful for the public transit we do have and still use it, but owning your own car definitely comes in handy and opens up a lot of opportunities for both work and fun stuff. I'm currently trying to work up the nerve to drive all the way to Pasadena in May FOR THIS. It would be one really long trip but also a once in a lifetime experience.
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I've been a pedestrian and cyclist all my 30 years of existence. I thought that having a car may serve my family for having to walk through the cold, running after transport, and relying on others to get where I want.
Thank you for the list you've offered. I will check out some of the games I have and see what I would potentially consider playing on the Steam Deck exclusively.
I feel a lot more comfortable with poorly ported games or combat games that require you to do moves, or that have simple movements to just simply play them over to a console, so that's why I think the Steam Deck is a great adition.
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Laptop is an early 2020 MacBook Air, the Intel one :( so not much gaming going on there.
I built my desktop in early 2019 after I finally lost patience with my PS4 Pro: all the 30fps games, and that damn fan noise - but I remember the specific breaking point was playing Mass Effect Andromeda as it kept dropping frames (just as ME 2 & 3 had on PS3).
i9-9900k
32GB RAM
EVGA RTX 2080 XC Gaming
2TB & 4TB NVMEs, 2TB SATA SSD
ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX
Case is the Ghost S1, and it sits under an LG C9 TV.
Next upgrade was intended to be an RTX 3080 (I've been on EVGA's fictional waitlist since December 2020) but I'll now wait for the 40 series, and whichever is the best price to performance ratio - I'm fully expecting Nvidia to pull another fast one with the naming / pricing, as they did between the 10 and 20 series.
Then I guess I hope I get another couple of years out of the rest of it before I feel the need to upgrae to PCIe 4 and DDR5.
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I built my desktop in early 2019 after I finally lost patience with my PS4 Pro: all the 30fps games, and that damn fan noise - but I remember the specific breaking point was playing Mass Effect Andromeda as it kept dropping frames (just as ME 2 & 3 had on PS3).
I guess I'm really lucky. My PS4 Pro has never yet shown any signs of struggle like that. I've got it for 2 years now. It's true, I don't play many games on it, but those that I did were quite challenging. It's still in a mint shape as I use it mostly to watch Netflix/Prime Videos and YouTube content.
Next upgrade was intended to be an RTX 3080 (I've been on EVGA's fictional waitlist since December 2020) but I'll now wait for the 40 series, and whichever is the best price to performance ratio - I'm fully expecting Nvidia to pull another fast one with the naming / pricing, as they did between the 10 and 20 series.
I believe that once the 40's series come out, the price will be a lot cheaper on the market at launch, just to increase to the same level of the 30's series. I'm going to wait patiently to see what happens and if that's the case, I may wait and get myself a 40s series.
Then I guess I hope I get another couple of years out of the rest of it before I feel the need to upgrae to PCIe 4 and DDR5.
My most recent upgrade is going to be an iSSD 1TB M.2 for better performance. I'm still looking at prices and whatnot.
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My PS4 Pro was an early one, just over 5 years old, so that might explain why it's so noisy (also I might have just got unlucky). It's only unbearably noisy when playing demanding games. I even changed the fan for the most well regarded one, as well as replacing the thermal paste and pads, and sadly it barely made a difference.
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That's more likely possible. But this issue was quite common on the PS4. But we cant complain that a console like that can deliver 30-60 FPS constantly in some games and they yet still look so gorgeous. The Last of Us II, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War and so many others it's outstanding.
I want to get my hands on a PS5, but not desperate about it. I rather upgrade my GPU as I mainly game on my PC. the PS is mainly for comfort and exclusive games.
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Oh yes those exclusives look amazing given the age of the PS4! But I didn't agree with their opting for 30fps - I just couldn't play some of them as they gave me motion sickness. I wonder how long we'll have this gen until they fall back to 30fps only (I really hope it won't happen, given the better CPU).
I got an email from Sony in December to "allow" me to buy a PS5 direct, so I thought why not given it can completely replace my PS4 Pro. Now I can go back and play all those games I gave up on :) I started with God of War yesterday, but am bouncing off it, so might try Spiderman again next.
I had to put the console behind my TV as it's so huge, but thankfully it works just fine back there.
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Oh yes those exclusives look amazing given the age of the PS4! But I didn't agree with their opting for 30fps - I just couldn't play some of them as they gave me motion sickness. I wonder how long we'll have this gen until they fall back to 30fps only (I really hope it won't happen, given the better CPU).
Have they done that in the past with the PS4?
I got an email from Sony in December to "allow" me to buy a PS5 direct, so I thought why not given it can completely replace my PS4 Pro. Now I can go back and play all those games I gave up on :) I started with God of War yesterday, but am bouncing off it, so might try Spiderman again next.
I had to put the console behind my TV as it's so huge, but thankfully it works just fine back there.
How are you able to do that? I'd love to be able to be contacted by Sony about this.
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Most of the big games last gen were 30fps as far as I remember (some like God of War had an unlocked frame rate mode too, which was terrible in a different way).
I don't know for sure why Sony sent me the invite, but it was almost certainly because I'm a PS Plus subscriber, and possibly because I'd visited direct.playstation.com to look whether PS5s were in stock.
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That's interesting! I'm also a PS Plus subscriber and have been for 2 years now. Maybe they select just a few really.
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i just upgraded my acer nitro 5 laptop. with more ram 32GB by g.skill and some pcie ssd with 512gb and a 1tb ssd sata3. this laptop has a i5 9300 with 4ghz while doing 4 core and 8 threads. combined with an gtx 1660 ti 6gb vram. this system is for everyday use while do gaming on second term and its doing a fine job 98% of games run on max setting (ingame msaa off)
the cost of that laptop were 1300 € around. not cheap as desktop but since desktop gpus are this expensive a 1660 ti from desktop can cost about 650€ to 700€ in my country alone now you can quess why i picked up a laptop right now. if the arket doesnt change i will buy some high end one later but with the beafiest hardware you can get and no matter the costs (rtx laptops can cost up to 4000€ alone without upgrades in it)
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In these dire times is rather hard not to justify what we really spend our hard earn money on because the market is broken.
Although I'm hoping that we will all regret the purchases and prices will drop, I really don't like how this whole increase is going so far.
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the prices are just terrible these days.
i even found a rtx laptop for the price of a rxt 3060 alone..lol https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/msi+katana+gf76+11ug+090+718532
that is really aweful if you see that.
if it is true what people say and what i have heard so far it will take 1-2 years until factories for electronics will be build.
i heard the problem lies also within all the need of capacitors and overneed from market.
samsung and some others will build such factories we need to build for pc and smartphone electronics but until they are finished...problem. some say it will take until 2023 others say at least 2024 some say 2030 it will be stable when the market has enough to share for entire world. so what do we quess? i think 2024 might be possible for dropping prices if we get not lucky i think 2030 sounds also good ;(
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i even found a rtx laptop for the price of a rxt 3060 alone..lol https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/msi+katana+gf76+11ug+090+718532
that is really aweful if you see that.
Best get the whole Laptop or PCif that's the price.
if it is true what people say and what i have heard so far it will take 1-2 years until factories for electronics will be build.
i heard the problem lies also within all the need of capacitors and overneed from market.
samsung and some others will build such factories we need to build for pc and smartphone electronics but until they are finished...problem. some say it will take until 2023 others say at least 2024 some say 2030 it will be stable when the market has enough to share for entire world. so what do we quess? i think 2024 might be possible for dropping prices if we get not lucky i think 2030 sounds also good ;(
A lot could change in a few years/months from here on. I don't think I'd be willing to wait for a video card to stabilize by the year of 2030. 8 More years means the technology and games that are being produced will surpass a lot of the RTX's that we have today to the point that an RTX 3080 or RTX 4080 may not be as powerful as we think it will. It's just an estimation, but it's a way too far for me to be able to imagine how it would be the market.
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Still on the old i7-6700k with 32GB RAM and a GTX 1080. I would love to have an upgrade (RTX 3080, obviously), but I am not willing to spend twice as much as it should normally cost.
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How much are you willing to spend on an RTX 3080, if you don't mind me asking? I know MRSP is not possible, but what's the highest/lowest you would go?
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I think 1000€ would be the absolute maximum I would be willing to spend. It's funny. I actually had one ordered for 950€ over a year ago. I was angry at the seller, because it was supposed to be in stock when I ordered. And then it wasn't. So I canceled my order. not going to pay 200€ extra, if I can't get it right now! Well, now I wish I had just kept the order. I probably would have gotten one a month later. For a price that seems totally fine now. ^^
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Don't beat yourself up! Nobody was able to predict these shortages back in 2019.
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Don't worry, I don't. I can wait. My PC may not be high-end anymore, but it's still capable enough (more or less). As long as I can play anything, I'm fine. :)
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Just got a used one for 300€.
i5 2400 @3.1
8GB RAM
Nvidia GTX660 2GB
SSD 240GB
No money to upgrade, it's all so expensive, so gotta use what I can afford :)
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If you still want to take on some more recent games, consider going for Nvidia GeForce Now or Shadow as alternative options for a PC. Unless you plan to use it for older games and for whatever works.
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Custom desktop
i7 10700K @ 3.8 GHz (because I'm a lazy scrub that never got around to OC'ing it yet)
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-E
32 GB RAM
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW 8 GB
I had an allocation for EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin, I guess I signed up for that and forgot. Did not feel like paying a several hundred dollar premium for goofy overclocking features I won't utilize. Also not really in want or need of liquid cooling or trying to find where to mount the huge 3x 120mm rad it came with. Seems an RTX 3080 Ti would hit the spot, I contemplated buying and even if not using reselling but decided not to be that which shall not be named so someone else who will hopefully actually use it gets it.
Gaming at ~2k (2560x1600, 16:10 for life) I'm pretty sure a high end RTX 30xx or the inevitable 40xx will do me for many more years to come. Always worth it to spend more on the GPU so you don't have to upgrade or feel the pain after a couple years. I also didn't go for it as most of the games I play do not demand that intense of a GPU, but it's a luxury I like to have for the few that do need and utilize it.
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i7 10700K @ 3.8 GHz (because I'm a lazy scrub that never got around to OC'ing it yet)
I've got an i7 12700K at about the same GHz if I am aware. I've not considered Overclocking it because the CPU performs alright as it is. Do you think I should consider OCing it?
I had an allocation for EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin, I guess I signed up for that and forgot. Did not feel like paying a several hundred dollar premium for goofy overclocking features I won't utilize. Also not really in want or need of liquid cooling or trying to find where to mount the huge 3x 120mm rad it came with. Seems an RTX 3080 Ti would hit the spot, I contemplated buying and even if not using reselling but decided not to be that which shall not be named so someone else who will hopefully actually use it gets it.
For me, an 3070 or 3070 TI is more than enough at this point for the things I want to bring it to and the price. Yesterday in the last 2 years since its release I've managed to see on Amazon the price for one at £550 which is unbelievably close to the MSRP. I would have bought it if it wouldn't have vanished off the market so quickly.
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I mean technically most would say there's not much point having the K if you aren't OC'ing it since the K means unlocked overclock modifier whereas others are locked down. I have not felt the need to either, but similarly feel a bit wasteful in a sense not to OC it since it's purposely able to do that.
Yeah I let my one chance at MSRP go, hopefully I don't regret that since no one besides EVGA has a queue system you can join and lets you buy the card and not the card plus some gubbins you don't want.
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I've become an EVGA Member, but I can't remember where you can queue up to get one. Can you send me the link?
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I am not sure if it's open outside of the US and Canada. It should be from the product page, but they have it turned off still for everything. I was in the old "Queue 2.0" and they just announced a "Queue 3.0" based on your score you get priority in the new wait list but it's yet to be turned on officially, they're just staging it up for now.
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Are you sure? 10700K has all core boost at 4.7GHz, so if you're stuck at 3.8GHz there's something wrong with your system, most likely wrong power plan or Turbo boost disabled in UEFI.
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Yeah, I just said the base frequency, didn't count the turbo boost which is up to 5.1 GHz. I just looked and it's hovering around 4.7 GHz on the desktop.
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custom desktop i5 8400; gtx 1060 6gb; MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS; Corsair CX550M; 2x8 3200MHz; 256 gb m.2 ssd and 2tb hdd. I was lookinmg for i9 9900k and 3080 but they stopped selling this cpu and gpu price are too expensive i choose to buy laptop (lenovo legion pro 5 -3060 130w) not the best but it can handle 1440p for now. Waiting for 40xx GPUs
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Good luck with your purchase. I've bought myself an i7 12th gen CPU and I'm having DRM problems with some games. They got fixed, but some games simply don't run for me or crash if they are pretty old. It's quite sad. 😥
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Update since I posted here 2 months ago:
- Just won the newegg shuffle for a Geforce 3060 12GB, so will finally have the first piece of my new PC. :)
- For the screen decided on the ViewSonic XG2431 , thanks to it being recommended on Blurbusters.com
- Was going to get the 3D V-Cache 5900X CPU, but now that AMD has scrapped plans for it I'm no longer sure what to get...
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Just won the newegg shuffle for a Geforce 3060 12GB, so will finally have the first piece of my new PC. :)
Congratulations! I'm really happy for you!
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Intel Core i7-12700K 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700
I don't understand why people still mention the frequency in 2022. It's been irrelevant for about 15 years now unless you overclock.
Even more so with Intel's 12th gen, where cores actually have different frequencies so you have 2 core frequencies, not to mention turbo, boost, etc.
The part number gives is all: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134594/intel-core-i712700k-processor-25m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html
That being said, nice build, although maybe a bit low on RAM? Depends on the way you use it I guess, but modern games tend to waste memory :(
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I don't understand why people still mention the frequency in 2022. It's been irrelevant for about 15 years now unless you overclock.
I've got used to it, as I've seen it often in the description of my PC or other stuff. I don't take much attention on it and at this point in time, I don't think it needs overclocking really.
Even more so with Intel's 12th gen, where cores actually have different frequencies so you have 2 core frequencies, not to mention turbo, boost, etc.
The part number gives is all: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134594/intel-core-i712700k-processor-25m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html
Thanks for this info!
That being said, nice build, although maybe a bit low on RAM? Depends on the way you use it I guess, but modern games tend to waste memory :(
32 GB is not enough? It is for me.
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32 GB is not enough? It is for me.
Ooh, I misunderstood, I thought you meant 16 while obviously you meant 16 + 16 extra ^^
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Yeah, but until last month, I carried on with 16 GB RAM and had no issue with some of the games or programs I've used. Now the 32 GB makes a difference for sure, but I don't mind the RAM that much over the other components. Not that they aren't important, but they are a lot easier for me to get as they come much more cheaper than the rest of the components.
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Still want a new monitor because i got the pc equipment (2080TI) and i got like 27 inch i think? But it's hard, because many have (noisy) fans and i don't want that, and there are different type of screens, do you wanna go curved? how many inch? Etc it's hard to choose.
Only have 16gb of RAM but i don't do photoshopping or that kind of stuff, and on the GPU there is also RAM for games.
And a Valve Index someday..
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Still want a new monitor because i got the pc equipment (2080TI) and i got like 27 inch i think? But it's hard, because many have (noisy) fans and i don't want that, and there are different type of screens, do you wanna go curved? how many inch? Etc it's hard to choose.
I don't mind having a curved screen, but I will probably not bother as my Ultrawide is flat so, it wouldn't fit the overall esthetic.
And a Valve Index someday..
I want that too. But by the time I'll get it, the possibility of a new Valve Index will come on the market.
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Hello friends,
Here's a question for you: What's your Desktop/Laptop Specs right now? Where do you want to be in the near future and how much would it cost you for an upgrade?
📉 My Old Dekstop PC Specs are:
📈 My New Dekstop PC Specs Upgrades are:
💸 I wanna get in the next coming months:
💷 Costs:
The prices listed and subject to change due to constant changes of the market. So don't take them for granted.
💵 SUB-TOTAL = £524.98 ($700.18/€623.88) (no GPU)
💶 TOTAL = £993.98 - £1,173.98 ($1,325.41 - $1,565.43 /€1,181.05 - €1,394.92)
UPDATE 23.01.2023: I finally got my hands on a GPU. I got an RTX 3080 and with it a PSU 750W otherwise the old PSU would risk affecting the new GPU. My setup is finally complete.
CPU: £768.59 ($951.18/€875.42)
PSU: £77.37 ($95.75/€88.13)
🌌 What do I plan to use it for?
Well, a couple of things:
Since I've listened to your feedback in the comments, I want to thank everybody who has shared their views. That has helped me to change my components and go for alternative upgrades. Thank you for your support! 🙏🏻
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