Lets look
Gifts Won 8 ($71.92)
Gifts Sent 1 ($0.99) * here is problem some guys can blacklist becasue you have poor CV ratio
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($0.99)
I'm just more amused that they didn't search for a cheaper game to give away.
There's gotta be some 5 cent ones on steam, right? :P
Not even picking at the OP, just at how silly and near-meaningless the level 0->1 transition can be.
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Hire is said ga: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/0qLUX/xcom-enemy-unknown-complete-pack (ended)
I wish all sg users blacklisting in this way - "without reason" ;)
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And yet he pretended to be the one harmed by those fiendish and bloodthirsty blacklisters.
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to be honest the others were shameless leeches and also rude, trying to get the dlc for free by discarding part of a game pack...
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That's why I ask the GA creators, if it is ok to enter just for Enemy Within. Some indicate their preference in the description, but others one has to ask.
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As a rule, I don't enter unless the retail value of a bundle matches or exceeds the price of the games/DLCs I'm missing- in this case, it's a $50 bundle with $40 of DLC, so NORMALLY I'd stay away from it.
But this particular pack is an exception for me- the base game was free from Golden Joystick Awards [or a $1 bundle game, if you got it from Humble], and I've no reliable way of getting the DLCs otherwise, so I do enter the XCom complete packs when the giveaway creator explicitly and confidently says it is okay to do so.
Honestly, creators should more often remember to list their preferences in their descriptions, but both as a giveaway creator and a fellow entrant, I'd much rather have people ask than assume it's okay to enter.
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You are always allowed to reroll for packages, so long as the winner owns any part of the package AND all the content in the package is available for purchase separate from the package.
[so for example, Darksiders II definitive edition you couldn't reroll on because 1: It's a remake, so not the same game, and thus it has exclusive content you can't get separately and 2: the DLCs for the original Darksiders II are no longer available. Either of those reasons prevents you from rerolling.]
For simple game/DLC collections, you have full say over rerolling, even if they only own the cheapest DLC in the package.
As for what I was saying above, I really only accept entering for the X-Com package [when the creator allows] since the base game was free or cheap, and there's no easy way to upgrade [The complete edition goes on sale more often, and at a comparable price to just the Enemy Within DLC alone- eg, $6.19 versus $6- and neither has yet dropped below $6]. I think it might be the only package I have that mindset on, and even then only because it's fairly close to matching price. :P
But, y'know, what matters is that the creator feels satisfied with the outcome.
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Full pack is cheaper than the DLC during sales - there are almost no giveaways for the DLC, this is why it's quite common for people asking to enter for the DLC (and often allowed to do so)
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hahahahaha this keeps getting better and better... I should check out this thread later again xD
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maybe talk with me before blacklist omg, i explained :
i won 2 times the same game, like i said because marie,the giveaway creator change the game,she gave time mysteries 2 when had to be time mysteries 3, not my fault :(
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Wow, what a dick. He's suspended for multiple wins, behaves like an ass and now on my BL too :D
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I can't remember why I BL'ed this guy before. Maybe that's why...lol
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another blacklisted wow :
i won 2 times the same game, like i said because marie,the giveaway creator change the game,she gave time mysteries 2 when had to be time mysteries 3, not my fault :(
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i won 2 times the same game, like i said because marie,the giveaway creator change the game,she gave time mysteries 2 when had to be time mysteries 3, not my fault :(
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He was blacklisted for multiple wins. He won two developer giveaways for Time Mysteries 2: The Ancient Spectres. Of course, the developer still delivered both games without checking so I blame them just as much. If the person was reported for multiple wins or if the developer had done what is expected of the rest of us (check your winners!) then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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sorry but do you really await from a developer to check one time 100 and one time 350 user if they own/won the game? and thats probably not the only mass gas of this developer.
we cold speak about if sg would offer a way to check all at once, but sicne they dont do it or atleast i dont know a way u cant except it from someone whos already generous enough to giveaway such amounts.
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So just because they are a developer then that makes it OK for them to not adhere by the same standards that the rest of us are? I'm not saying that the guy wasn't wrong by accepting that second key but he should have never got one delivered to him to begin with. By differentiating accountability based on how many keys someone gives in a single giveaway we are just creating more problems that could be easily avoided - such as this case.
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IMHO a honest user would ask for a re-roll. Also, note that he won both within a week, so he might not have the first one activated and marked as received and in this case the creator of the secong GA wouldn't see anything incorrect there (assuming he checks that - many of them don't ;) ).
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For GA with more then 50 copies games will be delivered automatically.
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i wrote developer why they are it usually who give away 50+ copies of one game. people who are generous enough to give away more then ~50+ copies shouldn't be bothered to check manually every user itself. if sg want that so badly, then they should implent a way to check all winner at once if they won / own that game. But don't plan to blame somebody who gave away stuff for free.
hope that makes sense, since im not English foreign its hard to express in English what i want to say. thats my opinion on the matter.
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For as long as this has been happening I don't see why this feature hasn't been implemented into the site yet. Until it does (if ever) I don't see why we as users can't accept accountability and check all of our winners regardless of whether we give away 50+ copies of a game in a single giveaway or we do it over a period of time in 50 separate giveaways. I have seen where people have told a gifter that has had issues with a winner that they should have checked the winners profile first before sending then their winnings. I don't understand where the mentality of that being OK comes from and not having it apply in all cases regardless of the quantity involved.
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Man it's delicious when a user brings attention to himself when he's worthy of a suspension.
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Although I don't know why, I just notice you are be suspended now.
I guess it is also "without reason" XD
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Just don't give a fuck about it. Not to mention that the loudest people who fling blacklisting around like some drunken hillbilly after the county fair are the ones who post like ten giveaways a year, if even that many.
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:crinkles nose: I don't think those black things the hillbillies are throwing around are lists, Tal..
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everyone complaining that blacklisting is bad doesn't realize that entitlement is bad.
if you were blacklisted, it's because of a good reason on the ga creator's side. doesn't matter if you agree or not.
also, why is it always people with "bad" ratios complaining about blacklists?
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I mean... I think it's safe to assume that'd be because they're blacklisted by more people, so are more likely to notice that they've been blacklisted.
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and yet they keep claiming that people using blacklists are idiots (reason: they are idiots because they blacklisted me), thus getting into more blacklists. :3
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Yes, this guy was an ass and had multiple wins but they were developer giveaways from the same developer and I partially blame the developer for not checking their winners before giving the keys. There was a week between giveaways so there should be no excuse. This isn't the first time I have heard of this happening and some have also said that getting a response from a developer when they have an issue with a win can be a problem at times. Maybe more rules need to be put in place for developer giveaways to prevent issues like this?
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it's 1 developer that never replies back, the rest are fine. :3
also blaming the ga creator isn't an option, the person entering the ga is the one breaking the rules.
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Multiple wins for the same game checker on account Ichigoh:
User Ichigoh has no multiple wins for the same game!
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That's a bug in the tool. Just look at his profile page and you can see where he twice won Time Mysteries 2: The Ancient Spectres from developer giveaways - one that ended two weeks ago and one that ended a week ago.
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OP wanted attention but instead got suspension.
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I've read this thread until now, and I decided to blacklist OP WITH REASON - Multiple wins. (facepalm)
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Wait... you mean i cant leach,make rules for other peoples Ga's while being rude,get multiple wins for the same game and keep the keys or complain about being blacklisted for being a tool...life is so unfair i think ill go hide back under my rock.
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"Starting another incredibly tedious blacklist drama thread," is starting to feel like a valid reason to blacklist someone. (At least no one is complaining about me specifically in this one...)
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Hmmm.
It's tempting- though generally, by the end of the thread, the creators often manage to prove themselves blacklist-worthy as-is, like this lovely individual, so it may prove to just be a time-saver overall. :P
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Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to put you on my blacklist.
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"No reason"? Seriously??? You, sir, are a todger of the highest order.
Welcome to blacklists everywhere...
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no reasson yes, tell me your reason pls,
i won 2 times the same game, like i said because marie,the giveaway creator change the game,she gave time mysteries 2 when had to be time mysteries 3, not my fault :(
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Then you should not have marked it as received. It makes it look like you did something that was against the rules. (Also, your tone in that Xcom giveaway was not exactly pleasant, I would have blacklisted you over that alone).
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but the hundred guys that won marked as received, is not my fault if i dont know that,i tried to explain to support but nothing....maybe i wasnt too pleasant , sorry , but some guys were annoying me just to show my point,i always respect the people and the rules ,i hope u understand it at least :)
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It's your responsibility to know the rules.
And reading what you said in the Xcom giveaway, it was you who started being hostile. Luchingador asked a relevant question, if you're allowed to enter if you own the base game, and you started verbally attacking people. You were not respectful to people, in fact you were very disrespectful and seemed really nasty.
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but i enter in time mysteries 3 giveaway
and about that,maybe i had bad day,i had funeral,but anyway i read it again and i only said that is better allow to the people who can win the base game too, sorry if u feel that i was nasty, i always try to be respectfull with everything :) pls meet me better before blacklist me
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greedy only here are you and the other people who want to enter the game having just here for the dlc, taking the opportunity to someone else to try the game, at no time have prevented participate've only said that is usually left to those who do not have the game, it's normal, but it looks that you just speak without thinking all the time, looking for bad things to me like the games i've won, u are...just bye
if u dont know about something just shut up,u get in ridiculous for yourself,u cant enter in the giveaway of a game u won,is against the rules,i enter in a giveaway of time mysteries 3 but the giveaway owner gave time mysteries 2 keys,and i dont know why u are talking about this,not sense
Those comments seem rather hostile to me.
Sometimes giveaway creators allow you to enter for the DLC, sometimes they don't. It depends on the game, and the person doing the giveaway. And in some cases (New Vegas Ultimate Edition, Xcom complete pack, Skyrim Legendary Edition, Civilization V: Complete edition, among other), it's cheaper to buy the "complete pack" than the DLC in the pack. So it's not uncommon for giveaway creators to allow you to enter those just for the DLC, as that's the edition you would buy anyway, if you wanted the DLC. But the important part here is that it was not your giveaway. You had no say over who could win or not, so attacking people for asking if they can enter just makes you look like a nasty person who thinks he has the rights to decide what other people can and can not do.
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I have u on blacklist too :) 1. Potato ratio. 2. Ur comments on giveaway "no reason"??? Ur comments in ga arent no reason lal. I think after ur thread u will be blacklisted much more than 1;)
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do u blacklisted me for being poor ? i think isnt good reason
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Read both reasons ;)
I cant solve everybody if hes poor or rich or smth... all for same. And if reason is good or bad is choice of "blacklister" u can also be blacklisted iwthout real reason. (maybe for creating stu*** thread or so)
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i created the post just to talk with the people that blacklisted me, to explain the situation and the points,i like to solve the problems with the people , i dont like discusions or be angry with the people, sorry if the post bother u or another people :)
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If sm1 blacklist u just ignore it.. after ur thread blacklist u far more guys, only worst for u, no better. To be honest i dont care about threads. Nothing personal vs. you. Only ratio on your very bad (by me) comments in giveaway. And my friendly advice for you is: close this thread rather.
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Fun fact: Most of the times, people who complain about the blacklist system are people who have good reasons for being on blacklists in the first place.
Also, here's a tip: Don't bring attention to yourself by creating threads about you "getting blacklisted for no reason" because most of the times, people will stalk you a bit to find out why your were blacklisted, and then, well... welcome to everyone's blacklists.
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tell me the reason pls,is amazing the people blacklisting for nothing
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hahahaha i remeber that, you told that to me xDDD, im sorry :c whitelisted
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I said in xcom complete pack that is nice that the people who hasnt the base game win the game to play it,but the people who enter just for dlc flame me and blacklisted me , is normal ? maybe is my bad, but i wasnt rude or similar
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-i won 2 times the same game, like i said because marie,the giveaway creator change the game,she gave time mysteries 2 when had to be time mysteries 3, not my fault :(
-i just create the post to solve the problem with the people that is angry for something,if bother to anyone im sorry :)
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