I wanted to create this useless topic, because it's midnight and i just wasted 72 minutes struggling with stupid uplay. I wanted to play a game again, which I of course legally bought, so I reinstalled it. I tried to launch it (allready connected to uplay) but surprisingly it doesn't work. Keep it cool, re-launch in admin mode. Got to reconnect, enter the serial key. "This key is already in use". Okay. Let me retype this. "your account has been temporarily banned, please contact Ubisoft for..." Wait what ? I got banned activating MY legit serial key on MY account ?
Contact support : "dear Ubisoft, please remind me of pirating your game next time, so I might actually play it."
TDLR : Uplay sucks.

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I love Uplay! I have 3 Assasin Creed games in my account and Sprintel Cell Conviction. When I start Uplay via Steam (Sprintel Cell Conviction I both on Steam) i can't see the AC games so i need to close Uplay program to open Uplay program with AC games. So I have 1 account 2 Uplay programs and 4 games. I can understand that when I run not steam Uplay program I can't see Conviction because it's bound with steam installation but why i can't see AC games in my Uplay library...

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Yep. I got banned too a while ago. You don't need to contact support. You account will be relesed after 3 hours. Also Ubi support will spam you in a few days with 7 unrelated bot answers in row. Then you will get a human, telling you:
"Die Kontosperrung ist vorübergehend und dauert normalerweise 3 Stunden." <==> "The account lock is temporary and usually lasts 3 hours."

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Uplay is horrible, people are always picking on Origin, when infact they obviously have no idea how horrible uplay is! -_-

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Or they do know how shit it is so they dont use it and thus dont have a reason to complain about it. shrugs

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Then don't use Origin and don't complain about it! This is internet! That's not how things work, it's like people HAVE to rage at something!

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I feel you, when i purchased Splinter Cell: Conviction i received it with a DLC key, so i used it on my account where the game was bought. One day i launched the game when UPlay was offline, it made me lost all of unlockables on the game, everything that i beat in the game was lost as well as the DLC for it, next time i launched the game, i couldnt find the DLC maps, so i tried to use my key again and received a "This key is already in use" message, when i contacted Ubisoft about this issue all they said over 2 or 3 messages was... "If you cant remember the account where you used the key, we cannot help you".
Also TDLR? You meant, TL;DR.

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Yeah, join the line :)))

I remember when I got my HoMM VI (NOT M&M - Heroes VI - how the @#$#@ does this name make sense anyway). I installed the game, I was like yaaaay now let's play. The game sucked so I waited like...a few months to be a little more playable (remember when I used to check for updates and was soo happy when it used to find one just to see it's actually UPlay patch, not HoMM x(), start playing and a few hours later UPlay servers went down and I lost everything. :|
And when I start complaining on UbiFOrum about thins I got warned for god know what.

Or when I wanted to activate an AC2 key without actually having the game (got the key from a dude who per-ordered AC3) because there is no way to do this unless you install the game that you won't get unless you get it from their shop :|

Or that I have to see their stupid UbiShop ads in...UbiShop :| On what planet promoting your shop inside your shop makes sense :|

Or that I had to click 4 buttons (they fixed it, finally) to actually run the game :|

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If you can believe it, I have NO idea what uplay even looks like.. I abandoned ubisoft games so long ago that I have yet to install any game that needs it.. I just hit my first origin game a few months ago too.. I am a real stickler for DRM.. my take on it is that if they are going to make buying their games difficult.. I don't. It's a shame so many people are willing to pay for this trending things like micro transaction/ dlc content and online only DRM.. the only reason companies do this stuff is because people are still paying them for their games when they incorporate them.. the only way we will ever get rid of this stuff is to boycott them, no matter how much you want their game, if you sell out for them you've already lost the fight and it will only get worse. Just my opinion, and I realize not too many gamers are willing to give up on their fave franchise for it but that is why the companies are winning this fight...

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PLUS ONE

THIS is my PRECISE aegument, ALWAYS. It's dumb CoD fanboys buying their crap map packs and season passes for what are mediocre games to begin with, and their ilk, ruining the whole "self regulating" part of the gaming market. Money is what it's all about, just like any other business, and normally, if a product is bad, people buy it less, so eventually, it goes away. In the case of DLC etc, if people keep being dumb fucks and buying in to crappy marketing tricks that make you pay 100 bucks for a full game (that is, base game + "must have" DLC, rounding up to about as much content as you'd expect from just a game, period) while you think you're getting a cool game "plus alll dese xtraz!" like with BO2, we'll be paying up to 150 bucks soon enough for a game. Oh, but of course, you can just get the base game then for 30 bucks without DLC - it'll just not have 4 / 5 of the MP game modes (including the most played and popular ones), 25 / 30 of the official maps (including, again, the most popular ones), and about half the SP content. Oh and, of course, the entire story of the SP campaign will end on an absolute "must know how this ends" cliffhanger without the DLC. The base game will probably have as much content / gameplay value as games that cost 10 bucks now.

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+1

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Well if people are buying the map packs, that means the self-regulating part is working... It's just not working in the way YOU want it.

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You're missing the point of "self-regulation". The companies try to push crappy, low value DLC on us more and more, as it becomes more and more a standard practise, making eventual full games cost money out the ass. Self-regulation would mean bad (immoral, impractical, or as is the case here unethical and bad for the consumer) practises that start as a marketing / business idea cooked up by their marketing psychologists along with a whole campaign and manner of presentation would be dropped rather than adopted more and more as standard practise, as not enough money would flow in from consumers. As it stands now, gamers have become more and more complacent (also younger and younger, which also influences things tremendously) and accepting of situations that are bad for them, objectively speaking, in the end. All because of the next "must-have" killer app. and failure to understand the impact purchases of these products make / lack of ability to understand long-term effects of sales on products attempting to experiment with some new contrivance in the land of DLC / crippled base games. Hence, the self-regulation that you'd for example see in the IT sector in the form of no company getting away with selling a software package / platform with bad support to large clients, or very specifically focussed markets with a very tight target consumer base like farm equipment such as tractors, is lacking. You won't ever really see a bad tractor come out, some new tractor that breaks down within a year of purchase, or a more topical comparison - a tractor for which you have to pay between 50 - 100% of the original price of the tractor to purchase some basic crop harvesting trailer you hook up to it that can really be considered a standard, needed purchase for 90% of farmers, for whom the base tractor would be close to useless. Because if they tried to pull a stunt like that, not one farmer would buy their crap, the product would cause a loss rather than net gain, and maybe even cause the company to go belly-up.

This refusal to buy products that set a bad standard in the trends in product pricing and presentation presented by companies is now lacking, direly, in the games industry - hence, it lacks self-regulation. The companies can and do get away with stuff that is just plain ridiculous, often charging up the ass for stuff that would have been considered a PATCH back in the day, or releasing a game with locked DLC, or a half-finished game that they intend from the get-go to just sell DLC for, to finally sell the customer a full game in the form of base game + 2/3 high priced DLC (often even releasing a buggy as hell game, and addressing issues customers have in patches that ship WITH the DLC). Mass Effect Three, CoD games and their map packs (and now season passes), Aliens - Colonial Marines, Train Simulator, and Street Fighter games come to mind as games that have done some of these things.

Here's some further examples.

Realistically, any responsible and smart consumer should boycott any product that shafts them instead of support it with their money. That hasn't happened in the games biz for the past +/- 10 years, due to what the guy I replied to said - "no matter how much you want their game.."; people only go "oh I want, I get, durrr", which makes sense in a way due to the intangibility and difficulty to assess the objective value of a non-physical, entertainment based product coupled with, again, younger and younger consumers. Also, due to more and more casual gamers sinking the their money into the industry for about the same amount of content / value as what core gamers used to get 3 times as much value for - only to the casual gamer, it matters not, as he's spending the same amount core gamers used to pay for their gaming, on average, so nothing back-breaking to them, and since they're casuals, as long as they have their quick little fix, they're happy. So what if they paid 2 - 3 times as much for any individual product? They're buying only one game and its' DLC, or a bunch of smaller ones - not the same amount of products as core gamers, who now have to shell out top dollar, 2 - 3 times as much as they used to, to get the same amount of value / enjoyment / hours out of their purchases.

Don't even get me started on DRM - how gamers have for years also supported games / companies using shitty DRM that installs itself deeper in your system than some viruses and rootkits (Sony CD shit), or cripples your PC somehow, or causes other games to fail to launch (all three things posted before this apply to Starforce and Tages), or makes you install a driver that can cause your CD drive to suddenly fail to read many CDs, including music CDs and make you have to reinstall Windows (Starforce), culls user data / sifts through personal files (Origin), has "max activation" limits (Batman games, Ass. Creed games and lots more), has always-online DRM that fails to work properly for MANY users, even though it's made by the same people that made the OS of 90% of the consumers and is installed as part of the OS (GFWL - I still can NOT run Section 8 Prejudice to this day, no way no how, no fix presented by any party involved including the game dev - they can't fix it on their end; and I'm one of MANY with the identical problem, including people who won't ever see a penny back for their purchase), or DRM that leaves gaping security holes on your system if installed (Uplay and Origin both had this).

To post something very on-topic - the vulnerability in Uplay that made it possible to launch arbitrary code using unsigned commands through an URL on a webpage should have made everyone boycott the product, never to use it again. The problem there is, not many understood the risk it presented. Not enough people cared to inform themselves as to what it might mean, either. It means that when the vulnerability was still in there, a malicious user could (just as an example scenario - the sky's the limit with such freedom on someone's PC) easily make a link on his web page, that when clicked, launched a Uplay game, but also silently (without pop-ups or user confirmation / notification of any kind) installed a trojan, rootkit, or any other nice piece of malware on your PC. Fun fact - it took them two whole days after some coders tipped them off to it to publicly acknowledge it existed, then several more days to fix this, and was caused by an extremely simple, noobish mistake in coding. The people that discovered the bug even said that looking at the code, it seemed as though it was written by a noob coder, not an experienced professional. If that isn't enough to make all consumers go "wait a minute fuck that shit. AND FUCK YOUR SHITTY SOFTWARE" in unison (especially considering the lax response from the company in taking so long to respond publicly to multiple reports as well as even longer to actually address a [quite small] fix), hey well, that just shows how dumb the consumer has become.

Now, we're all paying for peoples' brainless gluttony and idiocy in the past 10 - 15 years. Or would you argue that the stuff presented above are all good things for us gamers? Can you touch your toes and say

"Yes master, deeper, deeper!"

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People aren't going to stop paying for their reaming as long as they have money to burn and/or someone else to pay the tab. Only when the pain of dealing with such crap outweighs the time and effort required to earn the necessary cash will there be a change in spending habits.

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It just means that people are retarded and thus the self-regulating is still working, but the majority of gamers are just to stupid to care... :P

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But Ubisoft hearts PC gamers and the platform now. Havent you read the news?

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Uplay is the worst of the current lot of digital distro clients, keep your money and save your time by playing games by other publishers.

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Use torrents - don't have problems.

Have only 2 games ubi-steam(Anno2070(great game!) and Driver S-F(dislike))

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My first hard-luck encounter with DRM was with Ubisoft, before Uplay. Purchased a game, went to install, and the disk wouldn't spin. This was before it was widely known that certain anti-piracy program don't like certain cd-roms drives with burners. Went to the library to go online to get help, and got cursed off the forums as a filthy pirate. Years later I found out on a different site what the problem was. Went out and bought a plain cd-rom drive, and it turned out it was one of the plain cd-roms that the program also didn't like.

Years later, got another computer, stuck the (still unplayed) game into the drive. Didn't run. But I'd gotten a compute with two drives, one plain, one with a burner, so I flipped the disk into the other drive. Still wouldn't spin. Turns out that particular burner had to be disabled before the computer would pass muster. So, disabled it. The disk spun. After a long while of waiting "You have programs on this drive that may be used for illicit purposes. Please remove before installing this game." On a computer I'd just bought and had not touched yet, other than to attempt installing that one game. (Probably burning software that came with the computer, from what I heard) Never purchased an Ubi game since.

Never used Uplay as a consequence, but have heard many horror stories. Including one where the install program gets stuck in a loop on the activation, so attempts to activate multiple time all at once, needing a manual break of the program. Which is bad enough, but remember that many Ubi games have limited number of activations, and so all of them just got used up before the person ever got to play the game.

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Ubicrap I dont like but Evil Arts (EA) I Hate !
P.s. I have problems with Uplay activating AC III D.E. all day wrote "...key is not valid..." I activate it next day just.

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Steam is da best.

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I only have uplay for Far Cry 3.

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Yeah.. and u cant change your games via the library....

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I love Uplay and Games for Windows Live.
If i were a weird creature from another dimension :p

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I use uplay just because of FarCry3.

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Ha ha. I hate Ubisoft because I don't know how to use UPlay.
Our future

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UBI are the best and they hate you hater. Oh and there is nothing wrong with UPlay it works always.

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Sometimes I wish I could add Uplay to all of my games. Even the DRM-free ones. Also, please bring back the requirement for a constant internet connection Ubi. That rocked hard. Uplay is the gamer's choice.

Quality copy protection from a quality company

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