I was reading through the threads on income - https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/E3kD0/sg-how-high-is-your-monthly-income and https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/SMdRu/people-who-have-0-disposable-income-how-come. And it occurs to me that what I see most of is not money issues but mental issues. Sure there are people here who say, "I'm broke." But most of them go on to say a lot more about their own mental state.

Of the people who have no mental issues and are broke, I expect they fall into very simple and obvious categories: students who don't have a job, and teens/20s people (mostly young men) who live in very poor countries.

But what I mostly notice on SG is the kinds of behavior that go along with mental illness. I observe this on all of the gaming forums I hang out on that have a community with some sticking power. The combination of gaming and internet forums seem to attract people with mental illness. Probably how I ended up here myself.

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Do you suffer from a mental illness? E.g. depression, PTSD, anxiety, bipolar, etc.

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I actually want to see some doctor but I'm too lazy for it. I'm leaning towards 'I have one'
If it turns out that there's nothing, good. If there is, er, better(?)

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Generalised anxiety disorder. It was hard enough to get that diagnosis because doctors were largely uninterested unless I went on meds. I tried counseling a few times but obviously they can't do much if you don't open up, and I honestly can't find a way to be open without sabotaging myself with second-guessing and ultimately falling into habitual "oh it's just me being weak and stupid" thinking. I have given up on the idea of people being able to see the outline of the real me without it being subject to hamfisted judgement of some kind, not even out of malice, but an incapacity to grasp the shape of my issues. I cannot blame them, even I can't properly do that, and I meditate frequently on the matter to try see the sources, the process and the result. But the inner critic is too strong, and I make an unreliable narrator that only ends up parroting the worst barbs from my history. Shame, guilt, fear and disconnection are the things that shape my life.
But you learn to smile convincingly, speak with some level of charisma, and make smalltalk. Protect them from your sadness, it isn't their responsibility. The issues so many years in a holding pattern won't be altering soon, after all.

Gaming is a hobby but it is also a source of escapism. Different media engages you in different way, and being able to have input and get immediate feedback from your escapist poison of choice can really help an overactive mind stay focused, or distract from thoughts or emotions that hound you, be they of a more normal variety, or intrusive thoughts or somewhat misaligned emotions. TBH if not for videogames my path would have been far far harder, and assuming I was able to survive it, the side effects it left upon me may have been more severe.

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Very High Depression and and very high anxiety, battling for little bit more than 5 years now...they kinda ruined my life, not much left here, keto helped me to get into better state but I do need to find right, good therapist, didnt had luck before and for long period I wouldnt leave my house at all, no job, lost many friends...,so therapist was something I could just dream of, now for me at least diet/keto - no carbs, helps me a lot, plus I can excersice and fianlly I can try therapy again and maybe new medication.

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i wouldn't say i suffer, but i am affected

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It stands to reason, doesn't it. Gaming is an addictive behavior - not always of course, but often enough to join that category - and addictive behaviors are known risk factors and/or complications of mental disorders. Btw, financial difficulties are also know stressors for mental problems. No real surprise there.

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totally agree

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Fake myth.

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It’s almost as if people are different and there is no one-size-fits-all cure.

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We're all human. Stop labelling the way you handle life a mental illness.

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Stop dismissing legitimate issues because you don’t comprehend them. You gain nothing by being close minded.

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No, i'm just being real about it.

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No, you're just impressing your personal outlook on everyone else and calling it "real."

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And you're arguing that I'm wrong, which means that you're impressing an opinion yourself.

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You literally came into a thread about mental illness and purported that it doesn't exist. I mean hey, live your life as you will, but don't be surprised when you're called out for being a jackass.

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You're the jackass for assuming that I said real mental illness doesn't exist.

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We're all human. Stop labelling the way you handle life a mental illness.

Please explain how this, or anything else you've replied, isn't dismissing mental illness.

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You journalists are all the same :)

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Depression (it used to be pretty severe and I had to go to a mental institution to recover from it, now it's mostly kept in check by meds, although it still shows its ugly head now and then), hallucinations and fake memories (kinda rare and harmless, but they can be frightening sometimes), anxiety (super annoying). Lots of fun stuff :/

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Well I had some mental issues but then I stopped playing league of legends. Now I am feeling much better.

Despite my lame joke I sympathize for all of the guys struggling with their depression and anxiety.

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i am here xDDDDDD

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Depression and Asperger's syndrome. I started to take medications to help with depression this autumn, and official diagnose on Asperger's will follow somewhere next year.

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I'm just curious, how does Aperger's affect your life?

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As a girl? Look for Samantha Craft's checklist, she is the most on-point, at least regarding my case. I'm more than 90% like what the text describes.

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Thanks, it's really exhaustive. Very helpful for understanding ASD.

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I've been suffering from mental health issues since I was a teenager (and it's not surprising to read everything here, thanks a lot for the topic).
I started at around 14 years old, althoug all my sporadic episodes already happened as a child.
My very first diagnoses referred to agoraphobia, social anxiety and a general depression.
I started taking psych meds (prescription drugs, psychopharmaceuticals) at 14-15 years old. The first time I got hospitalized I was unable to leave my house and I was taken out from ambulance operators.
I spent many years (combined, with many periods at home of course) into private mental health clinics, although in Northern Italy sanity is free so they were both approved by the national and regional health service so we didn't have to pay almost anything (my meds have always been free since I was a teenager).
I started for a period with psychologists, then got to psychiatrists and started taking tons of medicines. I took psych meds from 14 to 27 years old, when I chose to stop. Of course they varied, I defeated many illnesses and dropped for instance meds taken for panic attacks, agoraphobia and depression while I kept on taking those for social anxiety, borderline personality disorders and other problems.
I have been suffering from chronic self-injury addiction from around 16 years old to 26-27 and it's a miracle I still can use many of my body parts.
Thanks to lots of private and public doctors (neurologists too), hospitalizations and effective treatments I managed to defeat many of the mental health issues I've been diagnosed of between the ages of 14 and 19-20: self-harm, body dysmorphia, agoraphobia, panic attacks (one can't imagine how many years I spent into defeating panic attacks..), insomnia and some other ones.
I have still been suffering only of two mental health disorders, namely borderline personality disorder and major depressive disorder (as the psychiatrists here in Northern Italy and Switzerland say, at least, maybe in another continent I'd be diagnosed with something else).
Though, I stopped to take any kind of psycho drugs at the age of 27 as I said since I had defeated most of the problems that stopped me to have a sane life and to do whatever I want.
I still suffer from those two illnesses, but I've got no more panic attacks, I'm no more anxious when it comes to meet new people (although I'm asexual and extremely introvert, so I have no problems to do anything in public but it's extremely difficult for me to create real friendship and relationship bonds, but this isn't a mental health disorder!), I don't harm myself anymore.
On purpose I didn't want to talk about suicide.
Best of luck to all of you who are going through these periods, heavier or lesser periods, since every single one of us has to be treated the same, mental health disorders and illnesses are experienced in an extremely different way from one people to another one and we can't really talk about them if we don't take into account what really that singular person experiences. What for me can be something which I can live with (like my major depressive disorder), for someone else can be a nightmare impossible to bear. This goes with everything else.
Stay all strong, you'll never be alone and most of all RESCUE IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE, don't ever give up, don't ever isolate yourself, don't ever have fear since we're all worthy and we all deserve an awesome life, regardless of whatever else, nothing matters at all when it comes to this topic. We all deserve health and happiness. Don't be afraid of anything, since everything will be possible to heal and if it's not possible at the present time (as I said I still live with depression and BPD) it's still possible to keep on healing AND having an awesome life, trust me.
Don't give up.
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Youth is the most sensitive age, and when I hear so many people say that young people or children can't be depressed, it just makes me mad. It takes decades to master the skills of coping with life.

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you're totally right, I've been hearing that a lot.. so many people think just in a shallow way that mainly depression is something light that comes to adults only.. and often that can be cured without many problems.. so no one pays attention at childhood and youth traumas and growing up mentally and not only physically..

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To my understanding, there's 2 schools of thought, one that focuses on external causes on the basis that there is usually a deeper reason to why people are/feel depressed, and another who looks into it more in the realm of neurochemistry, or unbalanced hormone production.

There's a scale (can't recall the name, right now) that quantifies it and chemical correction seems to make minor changes, while lifestyle changes have much larger effects.
In the end, it's probably a combination of internal and external conditions/stimuli, and you'd probably need a holistic approach where the medication hopes to push you to the point where you can make the larger changes that would help you the most.

Personally:

I have been on antidepressants for 6 months or so but felt no difference, so it's likely that just re-thinking the way I approached the world and tempered my expectations of where I should be, made for a better "solution" to where I was back then. Couldn't say if people who have it worse off can power through it, doing something that's hard, to get better.
It's easy to say "Change things", but it's also easy to give up and act like no one understands, taking the weight off your shoulders.
At the end of the day, no one can "fix" your life if you don't do it yourself, so it's about trying, no matter how hard it is for you.

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It takes time and trial & error to find what antidepressants work for your physiology, 6 months is just getting started. For some people, the most common antidepressants won't even work altogether.

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Yeah, I think it was like just getting started on trying different ones, but it was enough time for me to just say fuck it and realize I can't rely on them for some revelation or change in how I looked at/did things and tried to hold myself "responsible" for the change I wanted to happen.

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If you did it all by yourself, probably didn't need medication in the first place. Congrats for getting over it.
However for some people willpower (and exercise like someone said above) alone isn't enough. Antidepressant are not a solution, but an aid that helps along with psychological therapy and hard work.

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To use a metaphor I see it as wanting to climb over a rock cliff, you can start with a ladder to get you closer, but you'll still need to climb the rest of the way. I think they are good for a kickstart or make the top seem closer at least, but some cliffs are shorter and some people just have a better climbing ability, so they can make due without it. For others that cliff can seem insurmountable or be slippery as hell.
So all things considered, I had some luck, things were never too bad, and I had good support throughout.

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I'd say 99,99%

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I have Tourette's syndrome and major low functioning depression as a consequence. Like, actual diagnosed depression, not internet depression. Currently not under treatment as i can't afford a psychiatrist. Used to take several antidepressants, but none of them really work.
For the Tourette i'm under haloperidol, but it exacerbates the depression and i'm slowly becoming resistant to it.

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we can start a group for ourselves :)

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No, I'm fine.

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I was diagnosed with PTSD early on in life, which has all but vanished over time, thank god. I was later diagnosed with Chronic Depressive Disorder (severe) and Generalized Anxiety Disorder, which is so severe that any medical professional I have seen about it calls it "profound" instead of simply severe. Medication and therapy help a little, but I can't live a normal life.

I would say that this kind of community would be more likely to attract people with disabilities, yes. Somewhere I can go to talk to people without being judged as well as somewhere I have a chance at playing the games I hear "normal" working people talk about.

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Depression, diagnosed. Therapy ongoing.

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i think alot of people with mental illness gravitate to games but sadly some gravitate to drugs/drinking to help deal with headaches, hallucinations, and voices or just to escape life.

i feel gaming helps with depression and some other illnesses as you can play a epic hero or escape into a fantasy world .

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OCD, social anxiety, general anxiety, and depression. whoop whoop

One of the reasons I play games is because they let me put things into order in a way that outside life doesn't generally allow.

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If the guy in that run-down clinic nearby who said I had "depression" (just "depression", when I asked if he meant "clinical depression" he said there was only one type of depression) and then prescribed me medicine against schizophrenia is to be believed, then I guess I do "officially" have at least one mental disorder. Yay.

On a less snarky note, I've already spend more than a year after "finishing" uni doing nothing useful and going on about how everything is pointless and everyone I care about will die one day while I'm there to see it, so I'll let you guys decide if the psychiatrist I went to was correct or not.

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generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety, and PTSD. I'm not on meds (my last doctor diagnosed me, then refused to prescribe me even a SSRI because I wouldn't agree to a depression diagnosis... because I'm usually in a good mood and don't have symptoms of it lol But he 'never heard' of prescribing SSRIs for anxiety). So I'm looking for a new doctor, but being in a rural area is working against me. So to manage my issues, I rely on marijuana. I know several growers who don't mind keeping me supplied because of my issues, and it works the best for me to manage the anxiety and PTSD (I've tried SSRIs, but weed has always worked best without the side effects I used to get with meds).

Main reason I game is because it's relatively cheap, and it's relaxing. Between reading and gaming, it helps me manage my stress since just sitting and doing nothing/watching TV makes me anxious (can't say why, it just does until I end up a full blown panic attack. Which sucks because I used to be a huge movie buff ._.)

edit: Should add I'm on a waiting list for new patients with a psychiatrist who recently came into the area, but apparently the list is pretty long. I'm hoping he can eventually see me and give me some new options as far as meds. Or even just a referral to a doctor licensed to prescribe medical marijuana if we can't find a good medication fit for me

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is it the inactivity that causes you to be anxious? like if you're not busy it comes on?

as a side note i have 2 pc's next to each other and i'll game and watch movies as the same time. rpg's are great for this.

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Well, I don't want to go into too the details on why, but yea. The inactivity brings on my anxiety, so I need to always be doing something, even if it's something small like reading a book or doodling or anything really.

And I have a smaller old monitor in storage that I've been thinking of digging out, so I'm going to give that a try I think. Ty for the suggestion though :)

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i know people like that basically if you don't control your thoughts your thoughts control you. it helps to do something like drawing or building so you can focus on what you want to build/draw/make. even if your bad at it as its just something to keep your mind from wondering (it always wants to go to the bad places).

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