I don't know, I'm a leecher.. though tbh. isn't that why we all joined this site? To win free games?
I'm a poor college kid with a gaming budget of $5 a month. I legitly can't afford to keep my ratio higher than 1:1.
Once I get an ITT job though, I'll throw up some AAA titles.. Until then.. I'll just stick the occasional bundle leftover and get blacklisted/called a cheapass
(I almost wrote chapass lol)
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Would be legit if you ran around all winter wearing nothing but yer undies ;D
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Yeah, I know that feel, but I have the Civ 5 Gold Edition and I'll just wait for the summer sale, buy the Complete Edition and just give every single piece of extra DLC (+the base game) here. That's the base game + 13 DLCs.
You just gotta find deals like this (I only miss BNW + 2 other DLCs, but buying them individually is costlier than just the complete edition, at least on sale)
Edit: I'm stupid
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How? Complete Edition is a bundle. You never get duplicate keys or tradeable items from a Steam bundle. Every duplicate gets lost.
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But... But... But I wanted to contribute... Well, if I buy BNW, do I also get the 2 extra map DLCs that are missing from the complete edition?
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If that is a bundle, then yes. Steam bundles add everything that you don't have on your account, and discard everything else.
The only exceptions are some of Valve's own games, like Portal 2 and HL2. You can get an additional, giftable copy of those games ONCE from a bundle. All additional gets lost forever. There is one exception even from that rule, maybe Portal 2, but I'm not sure on the exact details.
But for all non-Valve games bundle = get what is left, lose the rest. (Still, moat bundles can be a good deal even then. I have lost about a dozen games so far this way, but still had a much better offer than on individual discount prices.)
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So if I buy the Valve Complete Bundle, what do I loose? I have Portal 2 + Orange Box
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I think if that is the first time, you don't lose anything for that, but the additional copies work only once. If you buy it again, you lose everything, unless you buy the bundle itself as a gift.
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That's good for me (and you, soon, IDK).
Thanks :D
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You are welcome.
Before you jump in to buy it though, make sure you read any alerts Steam displays. Since they regularly change their own rules on weekly basis, the Valve exclusion may already be invalid.
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I assume most of this forum thinks I'm a leecher then? :D
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Yes, everybody is blacklisting you right now.
The only reason I won't join the crowd this time is you made a Mount Your Friends GA
XD
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the biggest leechs are ppl which creating closed group 10-20ppl gas and getting 10lvl so fast.
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And what if their wins only come from these groups as well?
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nope, it is simple.
- get 10-20 (or some more) friends.
- everyone will create giveaways to 10.
3 profit: 10lvl cost: 0$, because you will get in back from other friends gas,
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Ah necro thread, but I'm bored while torrenting some anime, so I'll wait till its done downloading in 20 mins or so and go write my opinion a bit.
Well just like there's genuine innocent stories for some VAC bans, there are also stories behind leeching I guess. After all, we live in a world where people think or judge from what they can see.
Whether people leech 1000 games or give away 1000 games aren't my concern. I don't even pay attention to like 99% things on Internet, anyway. Like what, we're all strangers to each others here? I do have some quite good friends I met accidentally on Steam, though. Heck, I even had someone threw me a copy of GTA 5 on Steam for free. ...no string attached. The world is that weird eh? While I may seem ungrateful writing about it like this, trust me it's not. I'm just too bad at writing what I feel.
So the question how do you judge? I judge based on my mood. While I can be genuinely serious and discuss things with cool head, more often than not I just love trolling around. Bad habit, I guess. It's quite entertaining watching people taking their time to even retaliate my post. My blacklist isn't meant for leechers or rule breakers anyway - it's to keep a list of people I can hit freely.
Lastly, even if you're getting blacklist right and left, most likely it's just by forum goers. Normal SG users don't even bother to post or blacklist people around. That's all I can say.
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Somebody who creeps (or acts creepy) is a creep not a creeper so somebody who leeches is a leech not a leecher. Sorry but this is driving me nuts.
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I'm afraid this anology doesn't work here. A leech is a parasitic organism who lives from the blood of a host which is pretty much what most people mean when they talk about leeches.
When I played Mass Effect 3 or GTA V with people from all around the world those people who join matches just to sit there idle and reap the rewards in case the rest of the team succeeds without their help were always called leeches. I've never heard the term leecher before I joined SG.
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My point was why add 2 additional letters and invent a new word (which sounds horrible by the way) if we already have a perfectly fine real word that means the same thing.
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It's an ancient internet terminology. So ancient that it is an official terminology in P2P as well.
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Well I'm not gonna argue with that but just because something is common doesn't make it correct.
Anyway I like leech better because leecher would distinguish it from leeches.
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Your way could sound better, but the widespread version is just this what the others told you. It's like the word "frag" that used to be a military slang, but now it's synonymous with "kill".
(By the way, creeper is also a used word. It is even in the official English dictionaries defined as "one who creeps".)
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And I always thought Frak was the version of Fuck used in the 12 colonies ;)
It is? Ok you got me there. I always thought the term creeper was coined by Minecraft.
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It's some kind of buzzword people who can afford to virtually exchange games on the site use to feel they are on a higher horse?
To me, it's the kind of people that enter giveaways for the sake of it, doesn't acknowledge the creator even if they win, and they feel entitled to their games. also people exploiting dev/free keys to "cheat" the system. I consider ratios and stuff like that preeety stupid, after all, you are giving away games, aren't you? I'd only care the person enjoys it, doesn't matter the amount of cash they've dropped on the site.
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my advise:
closed group = don;t add lvls.
the biggest leechers
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As usual everything depends. And as usual without full knowledge you can't make proper judgement. Yet everyone likes to make one regardless of knowing it all. It is human nature I guess, or the upbringing of western society.
In here I'm sure everyone would wish that their game goes to a person that truly enjoys the game. But lets be honest that not all bundle games are that enjoyable or really wanted. So it can easily become another grey area whether the person is a leech or not.
Personally I see the people who circlejerk in small closed private groups as bigger leechers than those who are poor lvl 1 members in SG. Not saying that it is bad though in general. But it doesn't really fit to contributing to the SG community, yet they have access to high levels.
But again it isn't a bad leecher, each to their own how they contribute. Some people just want personal people to gift towards to. Although at that point they are obviously more of a friend than a stranger. And personally I think actual giving means to give everyone, or atleast give a chance for everyone in some way. Some do it by puzzles, but those are favoritized too in a way.
But yeah we talking about personal views, so I gave just few things from mine. Always more to talk about, but ain't nobody got time for dat. :P
Guess the short version is that leeching is gradual and broad in severity. And everyone does it to some degree.
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Most leechers are kids who can't afford for games.
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i never blacklist people because they can giveaway less.. only people atm i blacklisted are racists or people who discriminate me because of my religion.
so leechers wont get blacklisted. What i think a leecher is?
- Someone who won a lot more than they give. (50 or 100+ difference, depends how much total given away, like some people gave 1200 games away but won 1250, those are really not leechers. but win 50 and giveaway 0 is more a leecher for me)
- Someone who gives a lot group and whitelist only but wins a lot public, those are also leechers in my eyes, even if they give away a lot more, if its group or whitelist only it doesnt count in my eyes.
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THIS is a leecher.
THIS is an UBER leecher.
Well I don't blacklist people for having a bad ratio, but I do thinks it's not healthy to have won twice than you've sent... if you don't have much money to send gifts then just play and finish the games you win instead of joining everything you can if you won't be able to even send back some bundle games at least. Then again if the person is active in forums and friendly then I don't consider it a horrible leecher for having 300 won and 150 sent you know :]
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Inspired by http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/D5CPJ/blacklisting-botsleechers
I've seen tons of definition of "leecher", some of them are hilarious, some are just senseless...
according to you, what is a leecher ?
Let's discuss about the behavior of the random users X and Y.
X gifted 100 and received 150, is X a leecher ?
Y gifted 250 ONLY in private gift-exchange groups and received 200 (he won some public GA too), is Y a leecher ?
X has a script that posts a random thx-comment in every GA he joins, is X a leecher ?
Y sometimes post a random thx-comment, but if Y wins, he always posts a thx, is Y a leecher ?
X gifted 100 and received 200, is X a leecher ?
Y gifted 400 (Y is american\european but has gifted a lot of russian\brazilian non bundled stuff - a lot of IGN free games of the month - whatever; TL-DR Y has spent less money than X to reach 400) and received 300, is Y a leecher ?
X is 14 years old, has 5$/per-month, X gifted 50 and received 200, is X a leecher ?
Y is 30 years old, has a work, Y gifted 200 and received 200, is Y a leecher ?
TL;DR:
How do you judge people you don't know ? I mean, I'm aware that the world is dark and full of jerks but... things are not quite so simple always as black and white.
I have more than 100 users in my blacklist, (anyway most of them are scammers that don't even use SG) but I've never blacklisted someone just because "ZOMG he won 200 and gifted the ship !!!!" I cannot know what's going on in his life, probably he's a jerk, or maybe he can barely afford a PC, I don't see why I should blacklist him, we have levels for that.
I usually blacklist people who break rules or rude guys. Now, my profile will probably be inspected and blacklisted by someone, like I give a shit about that.
So... what is a leecher for you ? do you blacklist them ?
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