Did you know that Gauntlet DLC technically ain't unbundled?
Happy cakeday Lilly! Thanks for your great work here!
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I don't think any tier is worth it for me since i own all i want of them, except Lego Harry Potter and i don't have a huge urge to play more lego games anyway.
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Shadow of Mordor... I should have read the helpful initial post more carefully. I had not realized that requesting a gift link would reveal any region locks on the game one had purchased. And I revealed the key code for Shadow of Mordor intending to gift it to someone here on SG.
I am an American currently in the Dominica Republic. I made the purchase via a vpn home to the US. I am guessing the game I got is not region locked to Latam. But I'd like to be certain before creating a giveaway. Is there any other way to find out what region locks this might have?
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The region lock is not set according to the IP you purchase from (or the VPN, in your case), but according to your Humble Bundle region.
If you're travelling and you didn't manually change your country, it should still be US.
And US receives ROW keys.
If for some reason this was automatically set to the Dominican Republic, then indeed you receive the LATAM+IN region locked key that can be redeemed only in LATAM and India (check the links in the OP to see where it can be redeemed).
The gift link notifications are misleading, since ROW keys will also show a big list of countries. Just take the "is not available in..." notification as "these countries receive region locked keys" and not "your key won't redeem in these countries".
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Ah. Thank you muchly!
ETA: Looks like a restricted GA is in coming (sigh).
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Shadow of war is interesting to me.. But own most everything else..
Have to think about it .. I suppose we'll see what good will be in the monthy
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Middle-earth…(´･Θ･`)
It does not appear to appear in the oriental island countries.
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| Sub ID | Activates as | Info |
|---|---|---|
| https://steamdb.info/sub/39465 | LEGO - The Hobbit | - |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/6622 | LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1 - 4 | same content as the store sub |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/16224 | LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 | same content as the store sub |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/41260 | Lego Hobbit DLC 3 | actual content: LEGO® The Hobbit™ - The Battle Pack |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/41258 | Lego Hobbit DLC 2 | actual content: LEGO® The Hobbit™ - Side Quest Character Pack |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/41256 | Lego Hobbit DLC 1 | actual content: LEGO® The Hobbit™ - The Big Little Character Pack |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/281112 | Middle-earth: Shadow of War Definitive Edition | includes base + 7 DLC |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/51209 | Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Game of the Year Edition | includes base + 20 DLC; 🌐 -JP (cannot be redeemed in JP) |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/55460 | Gauntlet - Necromancer | - |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/51739 | Gauntlet | includes base + 12 DLC |
| https://steamdb.info/sub/18076 | LEGO Lord of the Rings | same content as the store sub |
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I'm just going to leave a few comments about your post:
I cannot see who the referrers are when I click via Barter.VG
Barter.vg is one of the very few websites that index Steam games yet have no referrals. Barter/vg was created as a trading platform (or rather a way to easily exchange bundle games) but over the years it became pretty much the most comprehensive database of Steam games, bundles and giveaways (there's also the popular ITAD but ITAD is a bit different in regards to the information it focuses on, plus it uses a referral scheme and suffers from indexing based on app name instead of app id - which leads to a lot of errors).
The referrals that you can see when you click something from Steamgifts are added solely by Steamgifts, and there's a specific note for that in all my bundle threads.
Its weird for me Steamgifts allows giveaways for games it has an interest in selling
Steamgifts doesn't sell anything. These bundle threads are purely informative (I'm not advertising anything) and the work I spent over the past 4-5 years in creating and maintaining them was entirely voluntary, without any kind of compensation apart form the appreciative posts written by the users.
Steamgifts doesn't sell anything, but it does employ a referral scheme for gaining a certain percentage from your purchases.
grinding daily for a month or two before Steamgifts allows you to win after thousands of entries
It's all about what kind of giveaways you enter and your chances of winning. Group giveaways with a limited amount of members are usually the best (since they have much lower entries than the public ones), so you might try prioritizing those first. Leveling up also helps a bit, because it allows you to enter more exclusive giveaways.
On the other hand, there's the never-ending problem of autojoiners on Steamgifts - bots that enter basically every giveaway possible, to max out their owner's wins. It's a topic extensively discussed, you can find plenty of threads on Steamgifts about it. With so many of them active, it's almost impossible to win any public giveaway at lower levels.
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For me it kind of sounds they are theorizing about a blockchain-based "key" system instead of the alphanumeric one that could be bruteforced.
But I have no idea how idlers are similar to the stockholders. Or what "the market is structured for used keys to not be redeemed when finished with a game. " could mean as it just doesn't make sense about how the current key activation system works.
The market should keep doing work on staying ahead of which games are next to experience permanent retail price drops or big sales via the publishers in my opinion.
I have no idea what this is either. If you know that a price drop is coming, all you can do is wait for it. How, and what "the market" can do to act in their favor AND before the publisher decides on a price drop?
Do they think you can gift games from your library? Saying idlers are stockholders would suggest that, as there is any inherent value in owning thousands of games, other than cents from boosters...
Overall I got the misunderstanding of the system coupled with a late-night rambly comment of trying to compare (Steam? Steamgifts?) to the stock market
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Thanks for answering and for your time - it was clear you had some ideas to share, it was just a bit difficult to get what you exactly wanted. By ranting I meant that some clarification was needed because I knew there was a point, but couldn't really grasp it :)
Some notes:
But even so, in an NFT market with items tied to proof-of-stake, the goods do not increase in value even it is resistant to duplication of item fabrication, so the need for traditional revenue-generating systems increase again.
It could be, as already happened with pre-blockchain rares from MMOs, or even with cryptocurrency: death of an owner, deactivation / misuse of an account, or hardware issues like throwing out the HDD. If there are no new copies of an item, the available number of them will only go down as time goes on.
This is where independent key traders can negotiate with developers and publishers to host website-specific deals and specials to draw traffic to their sites.
This is very dangerous as there is place for misuse, like when a curator group/system tried to blackmail and harass devs into giving them free keys but at the same time I guess bundles pages do this with their bundles already?
Your account is way too new for this so you likely don't know, but with the Humble Monthly/Choice there is/was a repeated pattern of games getting into Game Pass, then in 1-2 months it's in Humble Monthly. Or they are free with Prime Gaming, then it's in Monthly a bit later. games having 80-90% off deals on Steam usually meant they will be in a Humble Bundle soon
And many publishers reach out to platforms to maximize sales, although many are happy to just stick with Steam.
You're kind of right, but at the same time, it's a bit more complex. Having a game bundled or super discounted usually ruins that game's value for months, or even years to come, hence fewer and fewer devs are willing to do that (though there is a weird uptick in bundles at Fanatical and Humble this year?), because Steam keys are supposed to be usable forever, and there is no activation time limit on them. While Steam keys give a lot of power for the owner of the key (waiting, gifting, thinking it over 100 times) it kind of hurts the industry in a way that nobody dares to make a good discount. It's like printing tens of thousands "I work for 90% off for a day" coupons (=90% off steam keys) for your job. Nobody will come to for full price, they'll get a "90% off coupon" from someone who hoarded it. Unless you want to work for 90% off for a goooood while, you undercut yourself on the long run.
Steam keys give the buyer so much power long-term, that the publisher/dev/store is afraid to give them more power, even on the short term.
Idlers means you have people sitting on their asses earning millions like a CEO while others work by the thousands chopping wood in the scorching sun to retire with nothing but a lifetime of pain
There are programs that idles your games for you, so you can get your Steam cards without actually installing and playing all your games. On Steamgifts and many Steam-related forums those are called idlers - hence my confusion about "idlers", because while it "fastforwards" the income from cards and that one is allowed to get booster packs from the game, it's quite a negligible amount in most of the world (and you also need to own the games for that to work)
[...]what is more valuable? Ten Beatles albums or a TF2 key? So having something that retains its intrinsic value is important yes.
Just asking - isn't TF2 keys have an intrinsic value to them, because there is a fixed real-life money price to buy them at the first place? I'm not saying that eventually there won't be a "one Beatles album for one Brigador OST and one Purple skin for Gaige" kind of value relation in the future... but having a fix "buy-in" price for the key helps to anchor it value, doesnn't it?
But because keys are infinitely generated even if I stockpile a thousand keys of a popular game there will never be a shortage.
Only the publisher can generate a key to a game, and any third-party trader gets their keys from the publisher. But they do it in limited batches, they calculate with keys as any IRL store does with their inventory, I guess. They could even agree with the publisher that they get keys to sell at 60% off, and the publisher won't offer a deeper discount on Steam for 3 months - we don't know if deals like this happen or not.
You could also see various Humble Bundle bundle topics mention keys being out of stock - in that case the third-party trader Humble Bundle bought fewer copies upfront, than what the demand ended up being.
I think I want to end off saying all these goods are actually worthless if no one buys them but are valued by the value that we attribute to them
100% right, thought that works for most entertainment and experience-based thing to begin with - you can't store them to have any tangible value (like a coupon for any free movie at the cinema), and an Iron Maiden ticket worth vastly different for a fan and for someone who haven't even heard of the band.
Unfortunately these prices are also dictated by holders in volume in small margin gains rather than the value to be extracted from the holding itself backed by no intrinsic value due to artificially-enforced scarcity and brute force algorithms.
I'm not sure if I understand this properly, but... I don't think anyone should be forced to give their game (and their work) for free, or for cheaper than what they value it. Piracy if almost always an option
As I said previously, publishers have exclusive control over the Steam key market first-hand, so if you make a game, you can decide you will ever sell it on Steam, so you have 100% control. (Some stores turned out to be buying up bundles and then re-selling the keys as other, official sellers do, that's what I meant by first-hand control...) old Call of Duty games don't really get discounted because it doesn't worth to bother with it for Activision. Or they get more money from the few fools who buy it because nostalgia. Indie games doesn't get discounted because it's only an extra income for the dev. Or they get discounted to 90% off because the dev needs every possible penny from that work to live. Generally there is no evil, fat-monopoly-moustanched person laughing on the mountain of digital stock game keys, it's a publisher/dev who sells to third-party stores if they wish so, and supposedly can sell endless on Steam (but can't undercut themselves, for obvious reason)
So one can bemoan but don't expect sympathy and rather a get-up-and-do-something-by-yourself-because-we-all-do-it response
I'll go to get a cup of tea or coffee, feel free to do so punk! :)
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I appreciate the work you do, but you don't generate anything through barter(such as ads, or refs, I understand it's a sg ref but afterwards I mean like repeat customers) or all the steam groups? I understand the groups are not directly linked here but this links to barter which you administrate and they can link to your core profile from either this thread or barter and you have a network of steam groups, curator groups, linking to barter, your own website(which seems to show ongoing giveways in april?) and everything is basically linked in every other group. I would say this indirectly leads to the rest of the network and it does influence what the network generates,. None of this has made you any compensation whether in gifts, monetary, keys from devs for being a curator with a larger group?
Since I'm probably gonna get bl'd a few times just for asking might as well mention why I asked this. If someone popular were to make a coffee brand, I would assume they'd definitely sell more starting up than someone who has no rep, since a larger audience is going to check someone relevant out and see they are selling a random product, than look at someone who has no other connections and decide blindly to trust to buy a product. After 4-5 years of making multiple weekly bundle threads I'd assume you amassed a large base of players that are familiar with the content you do, and once in a while someone will open up you profile and see what else you do and go from there.
I don't mean it in a negative way and I appreciate the work you do as I use your threads again and I believe I am in some of your groups or groups you manage, nor do I think linking to a website you manage is bad necessarily since barter seems helpful despite not being a user there.
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but you don't generate anything through barter(such as ads, or refs, I understand it's a sg ref but afterwards I mean like repeat customers) or all the steam groups
No, I don't generate absolutely anything from that.
Just like I try to help the SG community here, I've been helping Barter.vg for years by maintaining its bundle and game database, and actively participating in pretty much all management tasks. A couple of years ago the admin decided to focus on other personal projects, moving Barter.vg to a very low prio. Someone was needed to replace him (so that the website doesn't shut down), and since I was taking part in pretty much all anyway, I agreed to continue his work. The website is linked here only because a lot of people use it; a quick link allows people to add leftover bundle keys to their tradables; others just want 1-2 games from a bundle and can easily check if they have any chance of trading for them instead of buying the whole bundle. There's a lot more info on Barter that can't be displayed in the charts (like for example a quick way to see how valuable a game is. based on the have : want : library ratios, restricted to the website users obviously, a game's full bundle history, quick AStats / Completionist.me, SteamHunters links, all sorts of item tags as being given away or being revoked by the dev etc. Of all this I don't gain anything at all, nor did my work on Barter ever been paid / compensated - it was fully voluntary, just like it is on SG.
you have a network of steam groups, curator groups, linking to barter, your own website(which seems to show ongoing giveways in april?) and everything is basically linked in every other group
It's not a network. I happen to manage several groups that are completely independent of each other and since people often need some sort of information related to any of those, I think it's much more efficient to just list everything on my profile rather than answer the same question over and over.
Again, I gain absolutely nothing from managing these groups, I do this only to help the community.
My curator and my website were born from my hobby or reviewing games, which I unfortunately can't engage in to my satisfaction due to the sheer amount of time I spend on making SG threads and managing the groups above. The reason for which the SG giveaways are linked on my website is as follows: a lot of people "beg" for review copies that they then trade away for some profit. To show that this is not what I do, I provide complete transparency of how the keys that I receive from devs for promotional purposes are used. By listing the giveaways there, developers can easily see that the keys they sent out to me are used for giveaways, as they are intended, and not for profit. As far as I know, no other curator shows this amount of transparency - at least until now I didn't see a similar practice while browsing other curator websites.
Writing detailed and informative reviews takes a lot of time, and I have never been paid to do so - I always do it because I enjoy writing reviews, and my reviews always showcase my honest opinion about the game (you will see both negative and positive reviews written by me). The developer provides the key that enables a review, and sometimes wants to advertise their game through a series of giveaways, but apart from that key and some CV from the giveaways, I don't gain anything from writing a review. Most of dev accounts have only their own game in the library, and this is not enough to login on SG and create a giveaway (since you need $100 worth of unbundled games in your library). The alternative would be for the devs to use their main accounts, but that exposes private info about them which can lead to all sorts of comments on their profile and even perhaps abuse in some cases. To protect their privacy, I think most of them prefer to advertise
their games via someone else.
The curator info has to be shown on my profile, to make it easier for developers to identity the person they're communicating with. The people who "beg" for keys with the purpose of trading them away (as mentioned above) need some sort of leverage when doing so. And unfortunately, it happened a lot of times that those people impersonated me (perhaps because of my website or because my reviews are long) and asked for keys on my behalf - needless to say, those keys obviously never reached me. But I guess there's nothing I can do to prevent that, apart from trying to display as much contact info as I can, in the hopes that the devs will check whether the request is a legitimate one or not.
After 4-5 years of making multiple weekly bundle threads I'd assume you amassed a large base of players that are familiar with the content you do, and once in a while someone will open up you profile and see what else you do and go from there.
It might be surprising to you, but I am not a popular person.
I've seen a lot of comments stating that they don't care who makes a thread, and I fully agree with that. The 100-200 users that know me are usually at the intersection of my Barter / SG / Steam groups activities but considering that I have a different SG username than my Steam name, most of the other SG users don't even do any kind of connection between those (the avatar doesn't stand out in a way that makes people connect the profiles either). I also never advertised my curator publicly in the forums like others do (I have it linked in my developer-sponsored giveaways, obviously), but unlike other groups I prefer my own group to be a closed one and I check every profile that requests to join. There aren't many anyway, on average, I get around 10 join requests every 2 months.
I hope I managed to answer all your questions, if you have others feel free to ask.
Thank you for appreciating my work here on SG - knowing that what I do is still useful to some people is the one thing that keeps me going.
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That's admirable, thanks again for the work you put in :)
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Nice tier 3! I'm mostly interested in the DLC for Gauntlet so I can finally get the last 3 achievements but I already own everything else from that tier so I'm going to pass
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Shortened by 1 week. The bundle now expires in 2 days, instead of 9 days as it was originally planned.
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I got discount on GoG for Middle-Earth 3 days ago for 9,98€ both. I prefer GoG over Steam..
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I'm happy they're doing these encore bundle. I regretted to getting this one the first time.
Have HB done this before?
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I own Shadow of Mordor/War and a couple of others. Very interested in getting the entire LEGO collection out of it. Do you think it's a great idea? I got the movie LEGO bundle earlier and I wanna own the entire LEGO franchise and play them eventually.
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lego games gets repetitive in time, i own most of them but last games(like vilains) i got bored so much as its same conception every time, just different scenarios
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I see... so they don't follow a different narrative?
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you should try by yourself the cheaper ones, as u can see i 100% almost all of them, but got bored really quickly than i stop/start playing each title for many times
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miss only t2+gauntlet, so ez skip for gauntlet+harry portier
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Fantastic Journeys: Middle-earth And Beyond
Fantastic Journeys: Middle-earth and Beyond - Holiday Encore
3 Tiers, 11 Items
26 Aug 2022 -
17 Sep 202210 Sep 202217 Dec 2022 - 19 Dec 2022
View this bundle on: ITAD - Barter.vg
⚠️ Region lock ⚠️
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Game of the Year Edition - (gift link notification)
The other games have no regional restrictions.
🔑 Full list of subs
Notes
⚠️⚠️⚠️ Dec 2022: This bundle is available again (with all tiers combined into one) for up to 2 days until it runs out.
⚠️⚠️⚠️ Not all keys are initially available to buyers but Humble Bundle promises to restock them.
Tier 1 - 1 USD | 1 EUR
Tier 2 - BTA (initial: 7 USD)
Tier 3 - 10 USD | 9.94 EUR
☠ - Game was free at some time and does not grant any CV if given away.
* - the game was featured previously only in Build-a-Bundle / Pick & Mix bundles that are usually priced too high for the games to receive partial CV (exclusions apply) and are therefore not included in the bundle count.
Retail:
CV:
Are you interested in knowing other ongoing bundles? Feel free to check out the new master thread!
📝 Note about referrals
SteamGifts by default modifies all Fanatical.com, HumbleBundle.com, GamersGate.com links from all threads, adding the SteamGifts referral code. Whenever a user click or shares a link to one of the sites listed above, SteamGifts will earn a commission.
By using these reflinks, SteamGifts will receive $10 for new subscribers, 5% of Humble Store sales, 15% for bundles via the Humble Partner Program.
If you prefer, you can disable referral links from your settings panel.
Wondering what games you already own from this bundle? There's a UserScript for that! It's called the RaChart™ Enhancer!
RaChart™ Enhancer SG Thread (deleted)
RaChart™ Enhancer SG Thread (web.archive.org)
Thanks to luckz for the poll.
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