Who would you side with in this situation?
realizing now that timestamps would definitely help me come off as way less angry or impatient.
but those are both basically true so fuck it
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You didn't have to be rude just because he changed his mind.
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you are correct!
again, GIGANTIC FUCKING DISCLAIMER ON MY PAGE. I am NOT nice.
He could have VERY EASILY explained his situation to me.
He didnt wanna trade because I had forced in my inventory already and wouldnt have been able to gift it.
instead of telling me, so I could fix it and continue with the trade, he's all
"NOPELOL" and fucking BLOCKS ME?
sorry, that shit aint gonna fly with me.
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haha, thank you!
it would NOT have been hard for him to just say "uh oh! its in your inventory! problem!"
but instead, we both get to -neg each other and I get a funny poll out of it.
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I am NOT voting because it's obvious who's side I'm on.
But so far, I'm winning!
haha.
I definitely got angry way quicker than I needed to.
But in my defense, I've had a long day of dealing with people of about with as much or even less smarts than this guy.
Definitely a little frayed at this point.
probably the point where I need to stop, smoke a bowl, and go play one of my new aqcuisitions
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Wtf, are you trying to garner sympathy because you claim to be 'impatient' and thus excuse you from acting like an asshole? Sorry mate, I can't feel sorry for ya.
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nah, im just pissed and still a little frothy.
I don't want anything from any of you except maybe a shared laugh or two at this fuckheads expense.
I'm fully admitting where I was wrong in this situation. I definitely could have been nicer.
but I'm NOT nice OR patient and he went into it WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE VERY READILY AVAILABLE.
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Oh wow you are so on edge. You should try to relax and just breathe.
Yes, sometimes dealing with people on the internet can suck and be frustrating but that's kind of how it is. Getting upset about it isn't really helping you out. If you feel yourself getting upset over random dumbdumbs during a trade, you should try slowly counting to 10 or do something to calm yourself. The guy could have been more clear and handled things differently but in all honesty, you probably scared him. Reading your messages kind of scared me lol
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I just got kicked out of my house and three months ago lost my 4 year girlfriend. Definitely going through some personal shit lately that has me a little less easy-to-deal-with, for sure.
But every negotiation I've gone into I go into open-minded and ready to deal.
I'm simply upset by his TOTAL and COMPLETE refusal to even ATTEMPT a fucking trade.
It was going SO smoothly until he saw a problem, and instead of DEALING WITH IT, he RAN AWAY.
(had a personal realization just now. thats what the girl did, so maybe im mirroring a little. oh well!)
A little upset to be sure but ill get over it. As I mentioned to the poster above you, I'm just laughing at this point
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At least you have a pretty cool attitude about it now. Sorry to hear about your troubles. That's tough stuff :(
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shit happens.
life goes on, even if YOU dont feel like going along with it right then and there.
oh well, right?
super appreciate the kind sentiments though. that's LOTS more than i've BEEN getting lately. so yeah. thanks. <3
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Same here... Hope you can find a solution to most of your problems soon!
I think you probably were a bit too harsh on the guy too. Both of you could have handled the trade a bit better (The other guy by being clear about why he wasn't interested in trading anymore, and you... by, well, trying not to insult him.)
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yeah, you're right. I flipped a shit. I'll keep saying "you were right" to EVERYONE who says that. xD
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The Seller should not have worried about the person already having FORCED in his inventory because he was getting it for a friend like we all do for Co-op games. The Buyer was in the right! and I would have been just as mad if I had to deal with a NOOB like that. WE GET GAMES FOR FRIENDS TO PLAY TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Calm down, bro :)
Trading seems very stressful for you. Sure, there are a few users around who will test your patience, but if you're going to trade on Steam it's an unfortunate occupational hazard. Have you consider a less aggravating pastime?
Also, your post could be viewed as "calling out", so you might want to consider scrubbing the dude's name from the records to stay safe!
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dude you know what Im gonna go bug my guy right now.
I still owe him for a half o but we're pretty tight and half of that is on someone else anyway so he might spot me a bowl or two for the night. (x
edit: its not the trading. I LOVE the trading.
its DEALING WITH STUPIDITY. that fucking KILLS me. lol
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Well, smoke one for me. Hopefully it brings out your inner Bob!
There's nothing wrong with being the nice guy every once in a while :P
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I'm USUALLY the nice guy. Friend me, I'll prove it sometime!
Everyone has a breaking point though, One idiot too many, you dig? (x
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No offence meant. It's just that you spent most of the thread declaring how you are "NOT nice"!
Anyway, take it easy, and hope your future trades are a more relaxing experience :)
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none taken! just letting you know that's my PREFERRED role, haha.
take care bud, thanks for the time, and the CONVERSATION.
everyone else is just fucking LOSING it xDD
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So, this person stated he'd be interested in a couple of games that you had. You mentioned that you added him and you'd be happy to trade with him. This person for some reason unknown to us decided to change his mind.
That about sum it up correctly? Cause as a person looking from afar I'd say he was in the right and you were in the wrong.
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NOT for some unknown reason, if you'd bothered to skim at all. I'll copy paste since you're just a REPLY RIGHT NOW type instead of someone willing to look at the facts himself.
again, GIGANTIC FUCKING DISCLAIMER ON MY PAGE. I am NOT nice.
He could have VERY EASILY explained his situation to me.
He didnt wanna trade because I had forced in my inventory already and wouldnt have been able to gift it.
instead of telling me, so I could fix it and continue with the trade, he's all
"NOPELOL" and fucking BLOCKS ME?
sorry, that shit don't fly with me.
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Your still making it out like its the end of the world or something. It's not that big of a deal. You really need to chill out.
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no I'm really not?
I'm replying to people's comments, I'm engaging in a DISCUSSION, which is the point.
i don't know why you're applying all this 'feeling' to me, but please keep it to yourself <3
dont give a fuck if I win, lose, or what any of you ends up thinking. even at ALL.
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It does appear you genuinely don't care what people think....which is why you posted a thread about it...and put up a poll to see what other people think...right?
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for shits and giggles. my own personal amusement.
now that you mention it I understand how it could be a little confusing or counter-intuitive.
i'm losing like FUCKIN CRAZY though and im STILL just laughing my ass off.
FUCK That guy xD
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I don't expect to insult everybody OR get away with everything.
I simply reacted to a shit situation.
I NEVER defended my reaction.
I HATE the rep system as it currently is.
ALL of my negatives come from situations like this. People who I rubbed the wrong way after their stupidity or greed fucked us BOTH out of an otherwise perfectly acceptable deal to both parties
If I had to put up with the shithead you were describing I probably woulda hunted him down and gouged out his eyes.
I am NOT a fucking retail store. I don't give a FUCK if you like me or think I'm nice. It's supply and demand, and the demand is everlasting.
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You are correct, completely. In every way. I super appreciate your feedback and well written verbalage, my good man.
deserves more time than im giving it with all these quick-replies. two secs. while i dgest
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I would care WAY more about what people though of me, or try to be nicer, if REP mattered. but because the system IS so broken, and so many people (including myself) are punished for it because of one or two shitty experiences (one of mine is because i said NO to a beggar! fuck me, right?!), I find myself NOT giving a fuck how negative I am or how much anyone cares.
I still just see it as supply and demand. I have shit, you have shit, I want your shit, you want mine, lets get this OVER WITH.
I'm not into this for all the waiting and games and mindfuckery. I just wanna deal and be done, yknow?
i do usually go out of my way to exemplify everything you're trying to tell me. 9 times out of 10 i am the guy you're talking about.
but then i get three of these idiots in a row and i just cant fucking HELP losing my shit! xD
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Don't call people out or try to instigate witch hunts.
Treat people with respect.
These are not difficult concepts, please observe them.
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correct.
not trying to start a witch hunt, ffs, though.
poke a little fun at him, maybe? but whats the harm, otherwise?
+i treat everyone with AS MUCH respect as they show me, and no more or less.
golden rule, baby.
I'll take this whole shitfest down in another five or ten minutes though, sorry.
just having a laugh.
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...is everyone seriously fucking focusing on the seller swearing as an excuse to call him a douche?
Are people just not allowed to feel disgruntled? I mean stiqe did come to wash his dirty laundry out in public, but you can -not- honestly be supporting trades where you quit as soon as either of you hit a problem.
That's not how life goes, no matter how big or small the problem. Grow a pair, people.
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THANK YOU, AGAIN.
all I'm saying is this shithead coulda PRETENDED at having a little integrity?
but FIRST sign of an uh-oh and he FUCKING BAILS?
how is that okay?
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Hey dude give me the list of those bundle games you wanted from me earlier and send me a friend invite, you can have them hopefully they will make you feel a little better seeing all the shit you gone thru lately.
And I understand where your coming from but you still need to chill out some. No matter how stupid people are you still go to keep it together dude.
Send me a friend request and I will send you the games I got left from that bundle.
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lmao I appreciate the offer but I'm not looking for handouts?
I'm just sick of dealing with shitty people.
added for shits and giggles, and hopeful future conversations.
If I get something from you it'll be in a trade, dammit
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OK dude, just saying the games are there if you want, I understand you not wanting handouts, I'm same like that.
Take it easy dude get sum weed in you or something, fuck lol
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First, you should learn to calm down. You are supossed to be the "inteligent", isnt? Ranting and losing your temper only proves otherwise D:
Second, there will always be people that change his mind, you prove that you also lack "trading abilities" when you didnt try to change his mind again.
And third, im sorry but i cant feel sorry for you, you were rude and very much he have the right to block you (-rep dont really think, but still is up to him what he do), next time you should take it easy and just relax while like all the others traders in steam D:
Only because is internet doesnt mean you have to forget the rules for treating costumers D:
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You lack reading abilities, bro.
how the fuck am i supposed to change his mind after he fuckin BLOCKED ME?
lol
and ill say this a second time. I AM NOT A FUCKING WALMART. I DONT CARE IF YOU LIKE ME.
I just want a fair and honest trade from both people, not for him to wet himself and run away because he had a problem.
THATS the issue here
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"I just want a fair and honest trade from both people"
How can you expect a honest trade when you write like that? Even myself couldnt trust a guy if it speak like you, why should i trade if i will treated like shit? D:
Also, you dont have to be a "FUCKING WALMART", just be polite, that isnt hard, well, i think... you are proving otherwise D:
BTW, i read the -rep you have and you really need to polish that aptitude of yours, it seems the problem is you being rude with traders, with -5 i will doubt someone will risk trading, i dont want to discuss with you, only want you to help you understand the faults in your line of thoughs D:
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LOOK at my negatives. do some follow up research. ALL of it comes from these types of situations.
I guarantee you theres WAY more idiots than angry people out there.
But do you hear about the idiots, or the guy who finally snapped and fuckin killed one of em?
Stupid people don't WANT to talk about other stupid people. You get your thrills coming here, looking at ME, the fuck who actually LIVES his life rather than running away from it.
LMFAO.
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Timestamps would be helpful, indeed. It could all very well depend on how long that conversation took, exactly.
Since you added him, he may have been looking into you, checking that you're who you claim to be, checking your negative rep, and checking Steamrep. All of which are reasonable things to do when someone adds you, even with prior communication through Steamtrades.
Keep in mind that you added him, not the other way around. He may have blindly accepted without having read your responses past his original reply. He may not have recognized you as being that guy, and has to get his bearings.
As far as cancelling the trade, he did post in the conversation between you two, saying that he would pass. It's hard to tell how far between it and your post before that was, so are you sure that wasn't before/during the point in which you added him?
As far as declining because you already have it, it being a co-op game, it is reasonable that you would maybe want it for a friend, but he might not have checked your game list to see that you owned it. To him, it just seems suspicious, and if a trade is suspicious, then it's best avoided. He could have done better to explain his reasoning and hear a response, but with you seemingly trying to rush the trade along, that too can be suspicious.
Like it or not, you're going to want to calm down with the impatience, especially if you're adding people before a solid deal has been struck. Trading is a paranoia-filled hobby, and people are going to take their time and even change their minds, even due to the rudeness. But that isn't what the rep system is for. It is meant for scammers, and although he may have pissed you off, neither of you gained nor lost anything.
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Fully considered every angle. I've been trading for over four years, I'm NOT new to this or the intricacies of this dance we do daily.
Sorry for no timestamps! Each new message of mine followed a three minute pause, at least.
+rules and regs and etiquette and VALUE and ALL OF EVERYTHING WE DO is HIGHLY personal. everyone gets to draw their own line in the sand.
I'm pissed because mine's way down in the water and this asshole decided to draw his in the fucking parking lot.
I added him after saying I added. we had our steam conversation.
AFTER that he replied "sorry i changed my mind/"
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The way I see it, both of you are guilty of behaving in an inappropriate ways. I'm more on the seller's side for obvious reason, you definitely didn't have to go swearing and calling him names for this reason. A calm, easy going talk perhaps would have straightened out this misunderstanding, instead of making it worse.
I'm not saying that the seller was any better on his side, only that when someone acts in a unpleasant way, do not beat them at being even more displeasing, or you'll turn out to be the "bad guy".
Also, I would recommend closing this thread since it's breaking the "no calling out" rule.
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I went STRAIGHT to rage because he went STRAIGHT to fucking BLOCKING ME.
HE's the one who cut normal trade behaviours, stopped acting reasonable first.
You are correct, i didnt handle it well AT ALL.
But i never tried to say I did! xD
simply saying that his breaking the deal initially was the fucked up part.
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Blocking isn't exactly considered "rage" for everyone, actually. It is possible that the trader was simply very cautious (perhaps they have been scammed too often).
At least you admit that you were in the wrong as well. That's not very usual on the internet these days, so kudos for that. ;)
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can you please link me to said "rule?"
will close the thread as soon as i see ANY official word that what Im doing is not okay.
scanned the ToS up and down THRICE and saw nothing relevant.
maybe im just a shitty scanner. feel free to prove me wrong
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Wrong place, mate. You should read the FAQ, not the ToS.
Use the appropriate avenues for support. If you have an issue with another user, submit a ticket with a user report, rather than calling them out within the community or on the forum.
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I feel like you are yelling at me. I like this only in 50 shades of not you. Please stop yelling words at me. Don't revenge feedback. Don't yell at me. Don't call out dumb members, report them instead. Don't yell at me. I am conflicted and have anger issues. Don't yell at me. Please don't make a thread without a hidden GA, and if you happen to, make it not so sweary. If you yell at me again. I will cry. So please don't.
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Ive had a support ticket open for TWO FUCKING YEARS.
Support aint very fucking supportive, bro.
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You are still yelling at me I feel.
Do you want me to yell at you?
Why are you now calling out support staff?
Do you like getting spanked with a ban whip?
Please stop. Collect your emotions and fap out your anger.
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i feel like you're writing in some form of poetry I don't understand.
No joke though, keep your threats to yourself, fuckwad.
If you don't like what I'm selling,
nobody's forcing you to subscribe.
there's a big fuckin X in the corner of your window,
do me a favor and clicky-clicky, okay?
thanks for your time! no hard feels bro! <3
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I will leave this for everyone to think about before I stop posting in this shit thread.
And go back to hunting Bigfoot and talking to Aliens like normal humans do.
You and the OP are the same person.
/mindblown
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Threats?
What the fuck kind of prescription medicine you need kinda of thread did I just post in?
I am out of here before I get suspended.
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Well then get on your knees and start eating my gummi bear two pounder package.
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If you arent willing to be in contact with different people, have some trades rejected and get blocked by random people on the internet, you shouldnt even try trading at all, just saying.
Oh, and writing SOME words in CAPITAL LETTERS wont HELP you AT all, in CASE you didnt KNOW.
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lmao.
we have good days, we have bad days.
shit happens, we swallow it, sometimes we dont'?
this is my FIRST BITCH THREAD EVER.
just venting. feel free to fuck off! lol
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Saying "we swallow [shit]" might be a somewhat liberal use of the word "we"
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Pretty sure putting a disclaimer on your thread that you're a jerk, and then being a jerk, doesn't mean you weren't a jerk. Being a jerk will probably net you negative feedback. If it sounds straightforward, that's because it is.
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+1 for simple.
I'm not defending my actions, never have been.
I just don't see why it's MY fault that HE's an idiot.
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It's not your fault that, in your opinion, he's an idiot. What's your fault is your ongoing and willful lack of tact.
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He isn't an idiot, if anything you are making yourself out to be one. There was a potential trade, he declined, and you flipped out for basically no reason other than him not wanting to trade with you. Trades don't work out sometimes, move on.
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you obviously didnt check any of the details. I'll keep letting you be wrong.
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man okay theres TL'DR?
and then, theres YOU
" I JUST CAME IN HERE NOT HAVING ANY FUCKING IDEA OR GIVING HALF A SHIT SO IM GONNA THROW OUT MY HALFBAKED OBVIOUSLY SUPER FUCKED UP AND BIASED OPINION INTO THE FRAY FOR NO REASON."
fuck off and die.
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and yet I still don't give a fuck. which you would know if you had the capacity to read more than a line at a time, bro.
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So,... this happened.
My thread has a HUGE disclaimer up top. I am NOT patient, I am NOT going to be nice to you.
So why do I keep getting -rep because I am physically ill when presented with people of this level of intelligence?
TL;DR - SICK OF SUFFERING FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S LACK OF TRADING ABILITIES
EDIT: LOL I FEEL LIKE IM LOSING BECAUSE I SWEAR TOO MUCH, NOT BECAUSE THIS ASSHOLE WAS RIGHT
EDIT 2: Hey just cuz I use CAPS LOCK and stuff sometimes DOES NOT MEAN im super aggravated or whatever? Im not upset! I just wanna talk about this! I think its hilarious!
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