Today, I was called an idiot for claiming that the color "crimson" is bloody red. The argument I was given was that the Bulgarian dictionary translates crimson as sky purple... now I'm wondering... if that theory was legit, wouldn't Deep Purple's song "Purple rain" actually be "Crimson rain"?
So any intelligent people who could assist me in this... Because if I'm wrong and crimson really is purple it means I'm color blind as my avatar is with crimson hair... and I see it red, not purple. :|

(Sorry no cash for a gift, maybe next time)

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Things can mean different things in other languages

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I'm speaking of literal translation of the world towards the language. I mean I'm native Bulgarian and I find it pretty stupid, to translate crimson in such a way and that's in the official dictionary.

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google: "show me the color crimson -red"
http://www.colourlovers.com/color/261DCF/crimson_blue
https://www.prismaticpowders.com/colors/PMB-2054/CRIMSON-PURPLE/

In the US, I know most Americans would associate it with red. Nevertheless,...
Google gives definition: of a rich deep red color inclining to purple.
Urbandictionary gives: A deep rich purplish red colour.

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I think google is drunk. :/

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Yes, it's purplish, but by no means "purple". The sky doesn't even have a shade of purple to begin with.

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That I can object! We have purple sky her xD

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Most images I found on Google are edited. I have never seen a purple sky in my life, only red, orange and, sometimes pink :|

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I don't speak of Google, I don't like that guy. I saw purple sky personality 2 months ago while I was getting home from some ancient ruins. Was around 5PM, the sky was literally purple.

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Take a picture next time please :3 I am always fascinated by beautiful (real) sky.

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I hate taking photos (especially with my S3 ) and I'm unsure if my mother took one, we were in a moving car, so I doubt it.

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Aw, It reminds me when I woke up once because crows had some debate right under my window and I saw THE PUREST PINK SKY I COULD EVER IMAGINE. I never thought the world can be so pink. And it was the one time I wasn't mad at crows cawing at 4 am ;u;

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Maybe the weed still had effect on you XD

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Nah, I hardly smoke anything 'cause I need awful lot of pot to barely have any effect :/ So it was really pinkish pink like a barbie dream :3 :3

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Maybe you weren't awake, but sleeping and thinking that you're awake and when you went back to sleep you actually woke up from a pink dream!

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That's more likely

...but why don't you believe me!
XD

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I don't trust girls with insects as avatars XD

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Maybe I really am a moth! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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That'd why I don't trust u xD

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They're more common in microclimates and are actually a biproduct of light refracting through / against overcast cloud / heavy cloud formations.
Source: Nepholography is one of my hobbies.

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Literal translation isn't always possible (and when it is possible, it sometimes loses key nuances - like having a color shift a bit because the other language doesn't have a word that covers that exact hue.)

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Unless we're both color blind... yes, you are correct, crimson is red and not purple.

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Maybe we are, but we don't know it yet ._.

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crimson is supposed to be red with an inclination towards purple, so you are correct.

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I always understood crimson as dark red, not purple.

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crimson
A rich deep red colour inclining to purple:

-oxford dict

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Last time I checked it was considered blood color red. I mean, I don't see the hair on my avatar inkling to purple, or am I really color blind ?:d

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If you've ever heard of the crimson grapes, then you can immediately understand that crimson is red - let's say dark red.

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In german crimson is also translated to "Purpur" (purple-ish color) and it's supposedly this color.

Most english definitions explain it as a red/purple color, and if you look at Wikipedia it even appears more hotpinkish.

You're both right though, most colors have different shades and you're just used to seperate ones each.

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So basically, all dictionaries are drunk... Even wiki as it appears as a different color everywhere! Yay

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It might be true, that Crimson can be translated to "Purpur" but than again it is "Karmin", which is definitely red. As in the traditional women lipstick-red ;)
Anyway. Purpur feels wrong for Crimson. Because Purpur is a mixture between red and blue (I somehow don't dare say violet or purple or what ever, since we are already talking about colour definition :D).
Still it is funny, how crimson becomes that different in other languages (although obviously mostly the same colour, so there has to be something about that O.O), as it is originally described as "is a pigment of a bright-red color obtained from the aluminium salt of carminic acid; it is also a general term for a particularly deep-red color." (Wiki :D) Deep-red is not really violetish to me :D Although it might become at some point drops some blue in the crimson :]

Yeah, dunno, what I'm talking anymore. Guess it really is bedtime....

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You have sinned towards you bed time! You must be punished with extra bed time! See you in 10 hours.

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Couldn't sleep till 5 (or later) and then stayed foreeeeeever in bed :D
So punishment completed ;)

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Good boy.

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Girl ;)

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That one time I was too lazy to use my Sherlock Holmes skills and I got it wrong. Buuuu, you cheated t.t

Edit: Fk me... it literally took me 2 clicks to see it...

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Didn't mean to cheat though O.O

Yeah, clicking and looking helps - sometimes :D

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Your avatar's hair kind of looks purple to me, so that is a bad comparison. Also if I'm not mistaken Crimson is derived from what they used to call the dye made from a specific insect. I think one similar to the insect used for Vermillion as well. So No matter the language I would assume they would be the same color.

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I speak of the hair not the background which is kind of purple/gray xD

(And if u spoke about the hair, you're making me feel color blind, drastically)

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You are not color blind the hair is indeed red though i can see a hint of purple.Though in my eyes the color that is most dominate is the color i shall call it and that is red.

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But I see no purple ><

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Not everyone shares the same eyes. I do see a hint of purple, but that's maybe due to my left-handed job as a graphic designer. Normally you wouldn't say that it's purple.

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I see a hint of gray and black and a bit of oak brown, but purple is missing, except on the background mixed with the gray. :s

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I guess you see the color by comparing it to similar colors with the same shade of grayness :) In graphics, you can mix a little of purple to red and lower the brightness to get crimson.

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Or I just see more inside the color you see and just feel it like a mix of others colors than the one specific people see. As I always saw different colors inside her hair, but purple was never one of them. Black, gray, brown and rose depending on the light going towards her, but naturally I see it the same color as my blood when I just cut myself and if what someone else said it's true, then I need a doctor because my blood is broken xD

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Ahh welcome to our eyes do not always understand what we see.

You may be right or wrong the same with me.All I can say is my eyes tell me I see a bit of purpish in it.It might just be my eyes playing tricks on me but I am just reporting what I see :)

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And if I didn't say that my friend said purple, then your eyes wouldn't see it, I suppose. I think most here who see it because I said my friend sees it, but same time I see lot more colors than the majority who wrote and none of them see the colors I see. Guessing something is really wrong with me, or with my words affecting the mind of a majority.

Confusing stuff the human brain.

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I think the important thing here is to say that purple is not pure violet. Actually purple dye (for clothing, in ancient times) could be called either red purple or violet purple. So you should look at it differently - if some people say crimson is purple-ish, they think about red purple xD

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White is not pure white. We can safely say that white is blackish. That's why people think of black when they say white. I mean... it's not the color isn't named white, it's just people imagine it black... right ?:p

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Did you stop reading after the first sentence? :D Red purple and violet purple are not things I made up but actual names being used. Which means that the colour purple has quite a wide spectrum. I'm not saying crimson is purple, I'm just saying those two colours aren't as far from each other as white and black in your example.

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I'm more amazed at the part of "not been too far" as I see them as totally different, maybe that's my issue xD As I prefer to see the color as what it is and not what mixture its used to get to the final result.

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I see now more clearly what you mean :) But as most colours are actually a mixture what many, it really might be unique that you don't see that but the pure colour :)

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Awwwwwwww, s/he calls me unique. Ty <3

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I was speaking of the hair, which as EviL said, does have a hint of purple. I'd hesitate to call it red, but that would probably be in part that I have a job were distinguishing colors from each other is pretty important.

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You're killing my eyes. I used to see colors perfectly and one of an other, but now I feel completely blind :|

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I wouldn't call it purple. It is some funny kind of red (funny, as in I have no idea what to call it) ;)
And colours are sometimes different because of your monitor ^^

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beautiful kind of red * ty! Is my favorite color since I was a baby ..
(and my self conscience was always crimson haired since I was a baby .
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Absolutely beautiful :D

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Exactly !

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You are right. The English language has a long literary tradition behind 'crimson' as specifically evocative of darkened red blood.

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wait, why darkened? I tough all blood looks darker red >_< now I feel like an alien!

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Fresh blood is actually a pretty bright red that gets darkened more and more as it gets oxidized. Most sorts of media just stick with the darker approach since it's more sinister and fitting of our expectations while a more realistic approach to gore comes off, well, silly and ironically 'unrealistic' to the viewer.

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And now I think I need a doctor...

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+1 especially in large amounts (like a quart or so) it's shockingly bright.

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Crimson is deeper shade of red than blood. Closer to the color of blood as it dries, not as it flows freely. No reason. It just is.

I'm still stuck trying to figure out what "sky purple" is. Sky blue I get, but sky purple ...?

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IDK where you are if you have it, but here we have it between 5 and 5:20 PM, the sky is pretty much purple.

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In English, the proper term for "blood red" and anything resembling such is: sanguine.

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All the blood I end up painting the ground with in Crimsonland is dark red so Crimson has to be red. :D
(There may or may not be flaws in that logic.)

But, seriously, it absolutely is not purple. We just don't have a real word for "crimson" in Bulgarian and whoever made the translation fucked it up. <.<

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Have seen crimson peak? I nearly wanted to kill myself after I saw the subs. Everything is red as hell and they keep translating purple xD

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Haven't watched that movie, but it sounds like it would be unintentionally hilarious in a cringey sort of way. (Wonder how awkward it was for the voice actors with working eyes to keep calling crimson purple.) :D

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I don't know if there's any BG audio. But the subtitles are just 'u wot m8?' But now I'm willing to see it with BG audio just for the lolz

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The epitome of how bad translations can get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XziLNeFm1ok

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Wait, what? You can watch star wars on YouTube? XD

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Well, remember what we all learned from Stairway to Heaven- 'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings'

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Carmesí

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hehehe

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Not so many years ago, just about every online store that claimed to have their page available in Finnish was selling DVD gramophones. No joke.

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I want a DVD Gramophone now! XD

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And deep crimson.

Ah just paint it black and be done with it.

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Yup, your avatar's hair look crimson to me. Dark red with a tint of purple.

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where's the purple tint, as I cant see it xD

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Well you could almost-but-not-quite say the hair are sort of purple, but the red is still dominant. Are you a man, by any chance? If I'm not mistaken, men tend to be less perceptive to those slight color tints/shades than women.

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That's sexist! (jk)

No, but I see 4 different shades where ppl claim to see purple... Are you a men by any chance? Men tend to see just 1 shade :p

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Haha nope, I'm no a man. But damn, 4 shades and none of them is purple. I'm sorry for you :D (kidding)

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cough people see my hair as black, even if it's original brown and at strong sunlight gives shades of crimson, so I'm guessing I'm not the issue xD

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Let's see what I see: There is some super light red where the hair is very lit up due to specular highlight, regular dark-ish red where it's normally lit up, really dark red where it's kinda in shadows(?) and super dark red that is leaning to black around the... um... google search later... "crown" of the hair? Y'know, the darkest part.
All of them I see as red with barely (as in "I had to look at an image with the color spectrum to notice it" barely) a hint of it leaning towards purple. All in all I see more black in that image than purple. (I'm a man, btw.)

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I still see way more colors but no purple xD

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According to wikipedia:

"Crimson is a strong, red color, inclining to purple. It originally meant the color of the kermes dye produced from a scale insect, Kermes vermilio, but the name is now sometimes also used as a generic term for slightly bluish-red colors that are between black and rose."

English is not my first language, and I'm a translator. Got to agree this definition you gave is weird. Sky purple? In fact, I cannot see any familiarity to purple, but that could be my monitor.

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Few people seem to see it, but I see 4 other colors where they see the purple. Guess it's the monitors, but never saw an issue on mine for all the years I have it. It actually shows a pretty beautiful picture/coloring for its age t.t

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И аз го свързвам главно с червеното, но било основно лилаво.

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Crimson peak! Колкото искаш "пурпурно" ! :D Въпреки, че нямаше пурпурно целия филм! ^^

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As every human beeing seed colors in a slightly different view: maybe there is no purple touch for you, but for someone else?!
In fact.... why do you call "green" green?! Maybe you see it in a completly different color but you learned to call this "green"...think about it ;)

and yes. knowing of all the smartypants out there: every color differs in wavelength and can be determined this way 100%, still every eye/brain processes these data different.....interesting article btw: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/09/120907-men-women-see-differently-science-health-vision-sex/

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Because my red and purple will be the same for you, even we see it differently... Because it's impossible for me to know, what you call purple or red... So basically even if we see different colors we still see the same by name and explanation. maybe I see cold colors as warm, but same time I've heard them been called warm for so long that they are actually warm for me now.

So even if I see stuff differently than you, you still see what I see in your own way. :p

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But i'm a simple man. there is no "crimson" for me xD

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I'm a simple human too, but there's way more colors than red, blue , green ect. I love the red color, but there's 99 shades of it that I hate, because they are ugly. x]

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speaking of red: this should be 7 different shades - all i can tell is there are two...maybe three....

Source http://didyouknowfacts.com/psst-hey-men-theres-color-cant-see/

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I see 9... wat >_<

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only the red xD not the background and the borders^^ (with them i see 5 colors^^)

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Yes, 2 of the reds change shades mid way.

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Colour classifications are often extremely vague, but I'd say the hair colour in your avatar would perfectly fit what most native speakers would classify as crimson.

Google image search certainly seems to agree.

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But I don't agree with google, as there's cherry, ginger, ruby, garnet and who knows how many reds in the images with a very few actual crimson colors! >_< (speaking about the results)

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But, more importantly - NO PURPLE! :D

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Yaaaaay! Lets celebrate! (You paying) xD

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My hovercraft is full of eels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbflkF_1zY

(Monty Python translation book)

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This should be in the Off topic category, BTW

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I'm letter blind! Didn't see an off-topic section! T_T

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You can edit the thread and move it to the correct category.
(◕‿-)

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I did not know that >_>

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No worries.
I also thought Crimson just meant dark blood red, guess it's more like a "bruise" colour, i.e. dark red coagulated blood with a filter of bluish de-oxygenated skin in front.

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And I still never saw the bluish/purple stuff in it... Not sure if I'm broken or everyone else. Cuz I see 4 other colors that nobody else seems to see ._.

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You can open the photo in photoshop and use the eyedropper to check the colour balance...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That should be more objective and universal.

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I don't even know how to open photoshop XD

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Okay, I'll help you out: using a color picker (in Gimp) reveals that the RGB code on your Avatar is roughly 82,13,31, depending on where I pick the color. According to Wikipedia or any decent search engine, Crimson is 220,20,60 while true purple is 128,0,128. Notice, that with purple that red and the blue part is exactly even, while for crimson there's a lot more red than blue? Higher numbers in RGB code meaning lighter colors, lower ones, meaning darker colors, so you could say that your avatar's hair is a darker shade of crimson, but I'm fairly certain that, there's no darker shade of that color, so I'd say it's just red. It's definitely not purple, because you'd need a lot more blue in the color mix for that (like 82,13,82).

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Then she lied to me! How dares she >_< She always told me she's crimson haired!

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No, don't worry, she wasn't lying, it's all a matter of definition, whether you define crimson to be a very specific color that allows no shades (like ermerald being one specific green - if it's any darker of lighter it's just not emerald any more), or if a such a thing as a darker shade of crimson does actually exist. Also with the black background, there may be poor illumination and that's it's exactly crimson in bright daylight ;-)

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Sorry. I didn't want to be the one to tell you but. I think you don't see the color gray >.< the background is a mix of gray and purple. Sorry :(

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My bad, your'e right, of course! Regardless, it's dark, meaning, the hair could still be crimson in bright daylight, right?

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Yeah. ¶. ¶

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Oh well that's weird, I'm bulgarian and crimson is indeed transtaled to light purple and I just learn that. All this time when I hear or read crimson I imagine deep red. I can't give you any reason why there is such difference.

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Does Bulgaria need a reason to be weird like that? XD

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I guess Bulgaria just likes to be different. They are one of the few countries were nodding your head means no and not yes.

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That's what people say, but yet every time I nod, ppl think I mean yes and not no.

(except when you nod to the back and do a weird knows with your lips, then it's no, otherwise the proper nod is yes)

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You made my day, thanks for the laugh (and choking)

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Did I miss something? ><

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You said
"nod to the back and do a weird knows with your lips"

I just thought it was funny, sorry if it wasn't meant to be.

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"tsk' is pretty weird if you think about it. It's not a commonly used anywhere but Bulgaria...

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I've heard it here in Australia, Dad always said it., hear it now and then.

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