Nice reading!
Congrats!
And now we know what Gabe is doing instead making hl3 xD
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Right. Now tell your brother to set up his own account, so if he screws up again he doesn't take you along with it.
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Oh, I already posted above he will get his own account to destroy, if he wants, but he won't be destroying mine again, that's for sure.
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I know I might sound corny in the message and pretty cliché or something
Yep a bit. :) I don't mean to blame you or anything so please - no offence. I just think it is quite funny that literally all people with any kind of ban on Steam I have ever seen on the internet wrote that their brother or a room mate did it. It may be hundreds people and every time the same reason. It looks as if only innocent victims got these bans and that the success rate of the system was 0 %. If it is true, they really should either stop giving bans or rename it to "A victim of a naughty brother/room mate". :)
However I believe there are sure also some people that are really innocent - maybe a few permilles. You could be one of them and I hope you are. But I can't tell it, sorry. :(
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I'm sorry to hear you don't believe me, but answer yourself this...
My account has a ton of value put onto it, why would I suddenly, after 7 years of using my card, and my card only, use another card out of the sudden for a measly 20$ (My account is valued as $1500, probably less from Humble Bundle purchases)?
That's completely out of anybody's mind, if you ask me :(
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It's skepticism, nothing personal. If it pleases you, the probability that you are the one of hundreds is a bit higher that the one of the rest people with a ban I met, because you brave to talk about it even voluntarily. I just wanted to point out the fact about the "universal reason". Don't worry and good luck. ;)
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Hehe, I understand. Hopefully, if we encounter each other (and if you win one of my games), you leave with a good note from me after we talk to each other! :)
Good luck to you too! :)
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Praise Gaben! Great story mate ... and with an awesome good ending :)
BTW:
"We have provided all available information and will be unable to assist you further with this issue."
This message itself should be acknowledged as a main cause of heart failures all around the globe.
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Yes, you don't know how many people got hit by that message, making them give up in the end :(
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Pretty awesome story tbh. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It had drama, suspense, and a fantastic resolution. Congrats on getting your account back homie!
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Gabe bought the "my little brother" excuse.
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Sigh That's your opinion... But Steam Support can look everything in my account to prove it was my brother who did it.
It's solved, so I was proven innocent in the end.
I can even give you more proof that my little bro did it, you can ask and I'll try to respond with a logical answer for it :)
EDIT: Oh, and I won't dispute your black-list on me... I guess I deserve it for my failure on not watching over my brother... I'll even white-list you for the effort, so don't worry :)
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actually you are not..you just got lucky to reach to Gabe and he gave you a "one time get out of jail-ticket"
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Well... That's the last time I get any chances in redeeming myself, or else, my account will be permanently banned.
With no chance to fight back to it, of course :(
If you think I'm guilty of it, then again, I'm sorry to hear that :(
I could provide proof that I wasn't the guy who did it, but I've provided as much as I could...
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I didn't say you were lying, just that Gabe believed you.
Didn't know I had you blacklisted, but it was likely due to ratio. Looks like you've been putting in some work towards that, so I'll remove you for now.
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Well, I don't think "believing" is enough.
Steam Support had to look at my entire history to rule out anything (if you saw, they knew that my brother used different cards, so I'm pretty sure they saw me using one card for 7 years), and found that I was saying the truth.
And your white-list will still be kept, hehe. Thank you for the removal, too! :)
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next time my wife caught me cheating..i tell her, to not worry its my long missing twin.
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Hehe, don't judge grammar too much, pally.
You'll get a lot of hate in your future, I see it xD
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So what i not get is why your brother tried several stolen credit cards? One might be a stupid mistake..but a lot is strange..maybe i missed the answer in your responses.
Anyway praise good Gabe!
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The guy, I think, had multiple stolen cards, probably used, so lil bro got nothing from them, until he hit one that had cash on it, so he succesfully got it...
You'd be surprised how people can get a hold of stolen crap :(
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Yeah... I didn't listened when I should have made my brother his own account...
But now I do, the hard way, though :(
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Yeah! Thank you!
Unfortunately, not many knows about this, so they are left with their hopes crushed :(
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You do not take offense, but all this is similar to the beautiful fairy tale. I not really believe that the CEO will consider requests from users, he for this purpose has a big staff of customer support department, and he pays this service big money.
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None taken!
But it's actually true! I could give more proof that everything is real, but I don't know how to :(
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Yeah! I wasn't going to do it, but I'm so glad I fought back...
God, I'm really glad I didn't give up... :)
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Was your brother actually involved in frauds ? http://i.imgur.com/cb8ctgn.png
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No, he got the cards from a "friend".
The guy in question got multiple VAC bans after we reported him to Steam.
So Karma actually exists :)
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You are right, it's a criminal offense, but scammers may start to fuck up accounts like this, and destroy them easily from the naive, therefore, taking advantage of that "criminal" rule.
But hey, the guy had expensive games too, so he got hit as well, and thankfully, he won't pollute those multiplayer games with his cheating :)
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I have read the entire thing and have to say that you are incredibly lucky and stupid. Im sure you know why are you lucky so let my say why are you stupid:
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No, pal. I'm not bragging. I would have kept this from everybody who knows me here and nobody would have known this.
At least I am man enough to reveal what happened to me instead of keeping it hidden until someone finds out and calls me out while I make excuses that it's not true at all.
Yes, it was a mistake of mine. I didn't listened when I was told to (By group members), and look what happened. So from now on, my little brother will get his own account.
I did asked him, the guy who did it was VAC banned after a few days later... And he was even from my country... I feel ashamed that somebody so evil can come from my own country :(
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Im not your pal, and you clearly didn't ask the right questions and should have checked the convesation between your brother and the evil guy.
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The conversation was made on TeamSpeak (Since he chatted with him).
There's no way I can get proof for it, since the logs get deleted (You can try it by yourself).
Sorry, as well... Didn't meant to offend you in any way.
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A good while, at the time, I wasn't even suspicious of anything. He has his own private stuff, so I don't get in between them or anything he does.
Until shit hit the fan that I had to forcibly ask him questions, until he broke on me.
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So that guy played the "long" game, at least your brother will know better or at least i hope he will for his sake.
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And he succeeded... Who knows how long he cooked that plan into restricting my account (and probably several others too).
And he WILL, he was just as distraught as me, so much that he couldn't sleep that day because he was having nightmares about that, and I said, good for him, serves him right for doing something he shouldn't do.
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I'm glad that you story has got a happy ending (and that your little brother has learned a thing or two; as an elder sister and cousin I know a thing or two about how kids can be). Still, for me this story is mostly about how horrible Steam support is. These hollow, soulless answers don't even look like they've been written by actual humans (likewise, you are not considered to be human). Basically, this system doesn't care about individual consumers at all (not exactly news), but from time to time the kind king helps random despaired ones. Such incidents just highlight the existing problems.
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That's Steam Support problem. They could have a live support chat for those who need it, but not even that they have.
Blizzard and Origin has it! Why not Steam? D:
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Wow! A big story! I'm sooooooo happy to hear that he helped you out!! Lucky you with the 2nd chance! :D And that your brother learned his lesson! Congratz with getting the account back!! :D I would be dying too if that would happen to me!!! You must be so relieved now!! x)
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Thank you for those words! I should have told you when it happened, not sure why I didn't tell you! And yeah! I was totally stressed about that... D:
Sowwy for not telling you! :(
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I'm glad it worked out for you. You have a very cute and enthusiastic way of telling stories that just emanates that you're a good guy, and good people just make mistakes. You also have a very lovely relationship with your little brother. I have a feeling that he won't do something like this again.
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Hey! You do know how I am! :D
Thank you for believing in me! :)
And my brother is still with his punishment, not so lovely when he cannot play xD
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Congratulations, you were very lucky.
Now give your brother an own account on Windows to use or he'll probably screw up more again. The next thing you know he's clicked on shit and installed trojans or viruses.
I'm surprised you didn't ban him from your PC for a few months so he learns his lesson.
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Done and done!
Once the restriction goes away, of course!
But I'm not that rough with him, a month is pretty harsh already.
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I don't mean steam account but a restricted windows one.
You said he could see your e-mail so he was using your windows account, wasn't he?
Edit: All it needs is a message on steam saying "look at this pic!"
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Oh, yes. But he took notice on that "Gabe Newell" mail.
And you are right... But it's not like I store porn in my e-mail xP
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Haha, hello Gabe!
(Final message Gabe sent to me, if you don't get it xD)
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Read before commenting: Steam Support cleared my name for a good reason, they can search all my activity in my account, so I was proven innocent, and all was an accident. If you think otherwise, then you can comment on why you think so, and I'll try my best to give you a logical answer to it.
Alright, so, few people know of what happened to me (Touhou Group knew this before I even posted anything and BLAEO knows this after 10 days of my restriction happened), so now, I'll be sharing my story to the SG community (If my account gets liberated after the 30 days, I'll be posting this same message on Reddit, courtesy of a comment by one of my fellow group members, since it's proof that Gabe Newell can really help you out if you are in trouble... Of course, just messaging him won't just magically solve your problems. You have to arm yourself with a strong case, in order to prove that what one does was either an accident, a false positive, or you never did it.)
I'll copy-paste what I wrote on the BLAEO group, so here it goes...
See that red thingy?
This is what happens when you do something bad, even though it was all an accident...
It's all resolved as of now, but I want to tell you what happened and why this happened...
So, my little brother came to me, with a happy face, telling me he got a "20$ gift-card", I felt slightly suspicious about it, but thought he activated the card via the Steam Wallet option (The option where you activate Steam Giftcards)
I was wrong...
The guy who was giving him such a thing was giving my little brother a stolen card from somewhere (Or it was his own card, after all, but I doubt it, I'll get to this soon), of course, since this is a criminal offense, and it violates the Steam Terms of Agreement, it made my account perma-restricted.
What does this mean? No trading, no key activation, no gifting, no Market buying, no Steam Store buying (In other words, a general trade ban), which means my SG account will be unusable.
Well, when I got hit by that, I had no idea what was happening, so I contacted Steam Support.
At first, I had no idea what was going on, it could have been a false positive, so I contacted them, so they know I was worried about my account
After a day, they gave me a pretty discouraging answer...
They weren't going to tell me any reason (I was probably put in the folder of "Fraudulent Activity, use canned responses only", because once you do anything that is fraud, you are pretty much screwed (And this could potentially be an account-ender if scammers know how to do this...).
So I confronted my brother, remembering as well about that "gift-card", he told me he activated the gift-card via the credit/debit card area while he cried to me when he couldn't lie to me anymore (He managed to take money from a credit/debit card, even with expiration dates and the secret code... Whoever this guy is, I am glad he got what he deserved, according to my little brother, this was the guy who did it...
Then, I responded again to Steam Support, first part...
Second part...
I know I might sound corny in the message and pretty cliché or something, but I was genuinely desperate, even I could have disclosed full information about myself, so they see I have nothing to hide and that I was innocent.
I couldn't sleep that night, I remember well... After the night passed, and in noon (Or around there) they came it with another response... The one that would seal any opportunity for you to get back your account
Yes... for those who don't know, this response is the last thing you want to hear when you have a problem with your account... You can't reason with them or negotiate anything (Even if you could see that I tried, even showing all what I had to type to convince them otherwise... It was futile...)
I felt tremendously bad for a couple of hours, I was feeling down for that moment, as if I had no way to get back my account, until an idea struck to me, it was possibly my last resort... I had to contact...
Gabe Newell...
Yeah... Contacting the CEO of Valve and the gaming platform Steam... When I finished the e-mail, I thought to myself... "Are you out of your mind? Do you think he will take his time to read this when he might be developing a game at this very moment?"
I sighed as I went to sleep... When I woke up, my little brother (Who was playing some games in my account at that moment, now he is forbidden to enter my account at all, only me. I'll make an account for him and use Family Share on him) woke me up, telling me... "Kevin! Kevin! Gabe Newell replied!", and I was like... "What?" (How did he knew, you ask? Windows 10 links your e-mail, so it appears at the bottom right of the screen as a notification, you know it happens if you do have an e-mail linked)
I quickly went to see the response... He is a man of a few words, haha!
I really was out of words, even for a short response, he actually read the e-mail! So, I told him my story to him as well, leaving the ticket number so he can see it, I saw that he was also part of Support, first part
Second Part
Third Part
After writing that big letter for Gabe, I felt a bit stupid... "What if that e-mail wasn't even his? Did I just sent a letter to a complete stranger that used that e-mail to scam people or something?"... Yeah, it was a possibility, but I had no options left... Everything in that letter and in what I wrote past this is completely true, you never go anywhere by being a liar and by being rude about it. Yes, Steam Support takes time, and you grow desperate, but you need patience. Over time, they'll answer :)
Next day, around 7 or 8 p.m, my little brother, who was still in my account (He was forbidden later) saw a very strange phenomenom... The red bar dissapeared!
My little brother called me, yelling... "KEVIN! KEVIN! GABE NEWELL DID IT!". I thought he was joking, so I followed him... "Yeah, yeah! Wow, he did it..." Knowing it was permanent, it was pretty much him playing... But no! It dissapeared!
Momentaneously... The red bar went back again, my little brother and I were confused, but then... Steam Support sent us a message!
HOLY SHIT! We hugged each other, my brother cried to me that he will never activate anything without me watching. Even though I wasn't mad with him, it was a good lesson he learned that day.
We won a seemingly unwinnable case... There are factors that might have contributed to me having a much legitimate side of the story, which I can explain, if you ask me.
I sent Gabe my "thank you" letter, I was a bit afraid, since he is a busy man, after all...
And he answered me a few hours later!
Awww... No Left 4 Dead 2 Free Weekend, missed chance... :(
Oh, well! This is my story! My account is banned for a month (10 days now), my brother has to use another account, the guy got his Karma destroyed by getting VAC-ations (He made another account... Yeah... He didn't cared at all on losing it...), and my brother learned a lesson.
I also want to tell you what to do in order for you to not get over this too.
Never, EVER, let your brother/sister/relative to activate something, a code, a string of numbers, etc. Without you watching. Teach them that free things never have existed. In order to get things, you have to buy them with hard word and with your own cash from that hard work!
I would have published this in a much popular site (Reddit), and I would probably get a ton of hits and get myself revered as a god or something xD, but nah... I am an achievement hunter, and you achievement hunters deserve to know what happened to me.
I hope you had a good read and learned something in the way there :)
Have a good day/night!"
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