Here you have all of them so far on The World Map for this year, there are far more terrorist attacks each day: https://storymaps.esri.com/stories/terrorist-attacks/?year=2017
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One's for sure ... terrorism won't be gone anytime soon - not with these empiric inquiries/stats.
Ben Shapiro: The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority Youtube * data 2011
Good luck finding a "cure" for that and rampant/predominantly Muslim/African crime as prisons are filling up ...
Meanwhile dissent is growing and some western civilized countries are already to upping their 1948 game -
by primarily shutting people up for starters. CA, UK, GER, SE are the notorious ones I've read and know about.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
pic1-data-2013 / pic2-data-2015
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Your first link constitutes propaganda. You could edit it out, or you could exchange it for something more factual and less argumentative. (For that matter, you could just substitute your own writing). Whichever you choose, the video is not appropriate.
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Edited the Link out now ... if you could point out what is propaganda about the video?
That the guy talking about it is Jewish therefore disqualified?
Is the data he's quoting false (pewresearch 2011)?
That sharia law isn't radical and compliant with western values?
Politifact (biased*) wrote a piece on it ... claims it is false based their own opinion - read it for your own pleasure/arguments:
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/05/ben-shapiro/shapiro-says-majority-muslims-are-radicals/
And a piece countering Politifacts opinion (biased):
https://counterjihadreport.com/2014/11/06/shapiro-politifact-thinks-theres-no-such-thing-as-a-radical-muslim/
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That edit works.
- The religion or beliefs of the guy talking are irrelevant.
- The data he's quoting may be accurate or inaccurate, but it's just data.
- The opinion about what Shariah Law is (or is not) is speculative, as is the degree to which it complies with Western values. Arguing a point of view on these opinions is what makes it propaganda.
It took me years of study to grasp the basics of Islamic Law. You can't really expect an informed discussion of Islamic Law from anyone who hasn't done likewise. At the very least, it requires knowledge and understanding of both classical Arabic and Islamic history.
Edit: I see you've added two more links. Neither one of them is relevant to a discussion about Shariah Law for the reason(s) I just stated. Both "sides" are operating on conjecture.
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The religion or beliefs of the guy talking are irrelevant.
Thought so ... just laid a little provocative bait for you (lol).
The data he's quoting may be accurate or inaccurate, but it's just data.
Yeah lets take that for granted/reasonable ... unlike willful and
cherry picked ideology their data is at least based on something.
It took me years of study to grasp the basics of Islamic Law.
Well that explains why most Muslims have no idea whatsoever about their belief, other than cherry picking
stuff much like Christians do - which frankly put, doesn't matter, as long your within the confines of the law.
But here's the thing - sharia law not only constitutes many vague non-compliant western guidelines/values, but also strives to be on top of the law aka be the law. With those vague/undefined values of "somewhat/something/someone/not this time/took me many years interpretations of sharia law" only thing is crystal clear - it's open to interpretation and therefore should never be basis for the law.
So how do you apply those arbitrarily defined set of values to everyone and not everyone, but to subgroup differently? In my view you can't. Yet there are people in the UK and elsewhere "asking" for sharia law - are they trying to pull off one of those TAQIYYA-360°, KITMANS-180° kickflips? Don't they understand their misguided to turn a non sharia law country into a "sharia paradise" - you tell me.
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Your questions are reasonable ones to ask, but the subject you are asking about is very deep and very broad. Islam is not like Christianity, and Islamic texts are not "open to interpretation." As this is the SG forum, my response will be extremely concise. Hopefully, I can manage to remain comprehensible despite that.
Islamic Law is made up of base principles, guidelines, and practical examples. These are all taken from the text of the Qur'aan and Sunnah. The Qur'aan is the "rulebook," and the Sunnah is the practical explanation of that "rulebook." Let us take a look at the verse enjoining Prayer for an example.
(in the meaning of the translation)
(2:239) ... but when you are safe, then remember God in the manner He taught you (all), that which you (all) did not know."
The following things are known about this verse:
- The meaning of the words in the original language, including stylistic syntax.
- How the verse was understood grammatically by those who spoke the language in that time and place.
- The time and place in which the verse was revealed.
- The context in which the verse was revealed.
- How the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) explained and practiced this verse.
- How the Prophet's Companions put this verse into practice.
- What the Prophet's Companions and the following generation of Islamic Scholars had to say about this verse.
There is, of course, much, much, much more information regarding the meaning of "in the manner He taught you."
So, understanding a verse requires learning about it. The correct understanding of any verse, hadeeth, or Islamic principle is that of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him), the man to whom it was all revealed. Any understanding which contradicts his is a going astray. If you don't know Muhammed's explanation about a verse or hadeeth, then you cannot claim to understand it properly. You could be totally wrong. Islamic Law requires even more learning, as understanding a single principle involves knowing all the related verses and ahaadeeth (narrations from the Sunnah) and how they all fit together.
As you can see, there is a lot of information involved in the understanding of the Islamic texts. In terms of learning, the Muslims may be divided into three groups:
- The Scholars (those who dedicate their lives to memorizing and teaching the vast quantities of text)
- The Students of Knowledge (those who study the religion and are learning its precepts)
- The Followers (those who simply emulate the Scholars and seek their guidance)
The Scholars are very few in number. The Students number more, but they are still a small percentage of the Muslim population. The vast majority of Muslims fall into the "Follower" camp. They follow the four oldest Scholars (called The Four Imaams) who left extensive writings explaining the practices of Islam. Many of these Muslims emulate the practices of their parents, and some devote themselves to deeper study of an Imaam's writings. Few, however, become Students of Knowledge as that requires even more time and devotion.
And then you have those Muslims who don't even practice the religion, or if they do, they know almost nothing about it. These, too, are a small minority of the Muslim population, but this is the group from which suicide bombers are recruited. As they have almost no knowledge of Islam, they are easily led astray by anyone promising an outlet for their anger. Compared to those of other religious backgrounds, however, Muslims have even less of an excuse to commit terrorist acts as any sincere investigation of Islam would quickly show how wrong such behavior is.
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Thanks for the lengthy reply - won't deny the ideologies depth one might interpret. If it takes too much time/effort, the average
person won't bother and be easily led astray or create their own "west-coast-customs religion" for themselves, internalizing
their customized belief and not realizing its full extent when its being brought up again.
To the outsider/critic it looks like a strategy to obfuscate, subjugate and bamboozle - even if its not trying to. Empiric evidence and
inquiry, history (jihad/crusade comparisons), more recent and current events, geopolitics (bloody-borders) and relations between
Muslim and non Muslim in Muslim majority countries paint mildly put, a rather unfavorable picture of Islam as a whole.
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... paint ... a rather unfavorable picture of Islam as a whole.
No surprise, there. Control of the narrative is an effective political tool. Problems may arise when said narrative collides with actual reality, though.
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Another dead terrorist has been found in the remains of the exploded house at Alcanar. Police believe the terrorists had 100+ butane drums prepared to explode in several vans.
The house was like this after the explossion... Imagine this explossion in a van.. in a street overcrowded... fucking bastards
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It is pretty sad if few primitive monkeys ruins the name of whole race, nations and their religion. We cannot forget not all of them are bad.
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8 or 9 people got injured by the crazy maniac who shouted "Allahu akbar" while stabbing random people in Turku, Finland. Two people died, one at the scene and another at the hospital. Probably both were women. All victims were adults (18+). First victim was woman with a pushchair whom he stabbed in the neck. A muslim man who tried to help the woman from bleeding out got stabbed in the back. He sat there beside her all the time, until paramedics arrived just to announce her death.
Crazy dude ran down the hill while stabbing random people and there were many people running after him just shouting "Watch out" "Run away" "He is dangerous". There are many pictures circulating in the Whatsapp in Turku about stabbed people and I think two of women who got stabbed in the neck died. Police still hasn't announced who died and who were the victims because the investigation is still undergoing and they're trying to figure out what exactly happened and if this arabic man has any relations with ISIS.
Sad day in Turku here. Today was my last summer job day and this happened, not gonna celebrate today.
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I get in contact with terrorists almost every day, better to lock them up instead of killing them.
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must be awful to be inside a war and don't realize that til defeat... my condolences to europe in advance.
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Nah man its alright it was just a game of Mario Kart
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I was listening to the Barcelona situation unfold on the radio while I was driving home from work. Apparently, the police and EMS in Barcelona were there within mere minutes, and while it's tragic what's happened, my heart was filled with the oddest sense of gratitude towards those authorities who managed to get there so quickly to help those in need.
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The authorities in Spain have been exceptionally good in dealing with this situation in general.
After the 2004 Madrid bombings they got serious, it's crazy if you think about how many terrorist attacks have been prevented since then.
But you know, that is their fundamental problem, they just have to be wrong once, and this now happens..
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A car has ploughed into a crowd on a busy street in Sydney, Australia and left several people hurt – including a baby.
A statement from New South Wales Police later said: "The incident was not a deliberate act and it's believed the man may have suffered a medical episode."
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I'm not finding any information relatable or with some truth
That seems to be a common problem, these days. P
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Besides this gruesome act of terror with 15 murdered people and scores of wounded, the thing I was most shocked about is that in the explosion in the house in Alcanar where there were a lot of gas bottles and where explosives were manufactured by this terror cell that one of the two bomb makers that were found killed by the explosion in that house was an Imam. This fact is very disconcerting as Imams are religious leaders.
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It's not confirmed, at least yet. They are searching the house of the imaam now. Police says they were probably around 12 people involved in the cell.
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I just picked that up from the local media here where I live in Belgium. It's hard to believe that it's so difficult to get correct news in the 21' century and the age of social media. Can I ask if they reported there that there's another murdered victim added to the official list because here they said that the driver of the carjacked car was found dead in his car and was knifed to death by the terrorists?
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Now the media here are saying that the Imam is the "brain" of this terror cell and that he had contact in Belgium with other radical Islamic nutters and that he's the cause of the 8 radicalized terrorists from the town of Ripoll...
They also showed a very unbelievable and hypocritical charade\comedy of about 50 terrorist mothers, friends an supporters holding hastily printed papers with " No en el meu nom! ".
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If not for anything else we should be glad that terrorists are stupid fucks. Imagine what could happen if they had capabilities of this 4-year old girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kx67NnuSd0
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not an illegal immigration problem
half of Europe explodes
wew lad
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i dont really see a point in doing topics like that..
instead of shitposting there, go to the shop buy something you can use to defend yourself and dont be a victim of another terrorist attack.
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i dont really see a point in doing comments like that..
instead of shitposting there, go to the forum and click something else and dont be a victim of another thread.
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or... you could buy a rocket launcher to defend yourself
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Maybe an effect of adjustment of the world order (disorder is more correct), of the globalism socio-politics in a competitive and antihumanist neoliberist economy, far away from the unsafe balance of multietnic society.
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I just heard on TV that the fugitive and radical Islamic terrorist that drove the van through the Ramblas and knifed a person to get a car is shot to pieces in a vineyard.
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i want just bump this coz today 50 muslims was killed in a cowardly attack in New Zealand but as i can see nobody care!
RIP to all the vicitims and and i just wanna say this world really suck...
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I just read the title of this thread and went "oh fuck, another one??" until I realised this was an old thread. Why would you do that to people by bringing an ancient thread back.
Having said that, horrible indeed.
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it's not like that, not what you imagine... now let this thread R.I.P.
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i imagine nothing dude, im not gonna add antyhing else except that some people have to think again about what they said before
thats it!
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I know it's not France or Germany, but there has been another terrorist attack with a van. There are 13 deads and the terrorist run away. These days that city is full of tourists, if you have someone close there, please make sure that person is okay.
Another atack in Finland :( Check the last comments for more info. I'm not finding any information relatable or with some truth
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