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Soccer came from a shortening of "association football" and is a British term. The "soc" comes from "asSOCiation" and the British just added the -er to make it soccer (since socer would be pronounced differently)
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Adding to that:
In order to avoid confusion, students referred to association football “assoccer” while they called rugby football “rugger.” They later on omitted the letter “a” in “assoccer” to make it sound fancier.
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Soccer eventually outgrew the popularity of rugby football by far. The distinction between rugger and soccer was no longer necessary. People already knew which sport was meant when someone says “football.” Hence, the word football stuck in English usage.
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Americans, however, have their popular sport of gridiron or American football, which goes by the plain name of football. And so they have to use the word soccer to avoid confusion.
Source: http://www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/who-invented-football.html
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I learned something today. Thought gridiron referred to the field. Hmm
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You can't call it American football (just as you can't call people from USA "American,") as that includes Canada, USA and all of South America.
At the very least, you mean "shouldn't", not "can't",
In any case, American [the exact, English word] is always used to refer to [United States of\ Americans. The majority of Latin America, with the notable exception of Brazil, use 'americano' to refer to continental americans, but in English, American always refers to residents of the USA- as is evidenced by Canada's usage of such, and at times, umbrage at being referred to as Americans.
Thus far, no valid proposed alternatives have been made for the term, nevermind acknowledgement of regional/language difference. Latin Americans complaining about the usage use 'United Statesian' to refer to people of the United States of America, despite 'United States' likewise having being related to several nations [and still, I believe, the official name of Mexico is the United Mexican States],
The fact that the name of the nation is pretty generic and non-distinct is one thing, but at this point it ends up being a petty whinefest about how 'you should use our words for your country, but we're not willing to use yours'.
Don't get me wrong, the USA is all the things that generates that negative attitude toward it in the first place- but linguistically, no, there's no legitimate basis for making the distinction you're suggesting, given that distinct words exist in each language for each meaning, already.
Meaning, you ought translate directly from [americano to continental american, estadounidense to american].
The only thing the Latin Americans whom are complaining about the matter actually are stating, is that they take offense at the name of the nation itself. Which, while their sentiment to have, certainly isn't relevant to proper word use.
Americans IS a grammatically correct way of speaking of inhabitants of the United States.
Add in that only the Native Americans have a preceding right to the term, and the conflict becomes a "no, MY perspective on the colonially inhabited Americas is better!"
The heart of linguistics, and the matter I always push, is distinct and consistent meaning of words as they're used, which contributes to clarity of communication.
That exists here, so there's no actual basis to complain about the language use.
The argument at hand is purely political, and as such, like any thread on politics or religion, a rather unfortunate topic to bring up so simplistically and dismissively.
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I've never heard anyone from anywhere in Latin America call you guys 'Americanos'.
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I have. Pretty much everywhere I go in Latin America, they call me an Americano. Gringo is a close second.
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No, I believe Americanos refers to continental Americans, or residents of either continent :'P
I can't say my personal familiarity with Latin America is notable in the least, I'm just listing the cultural perspective as I've seen it explained.
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tl;dr version: Americans is totally fine to use to refer to residents of the USA, and that's what basically everyone except parts of Latin America does, and their motivation toward arguing the name appears to have even less merit than the overly generic name itself, meaning that, again, it's a stupid argument that has no merit in any regard, and people should let it go and focus on all the countless legitimate things to complain about in this world. :X
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I did not read any of your comment, but you might have the best profile picture I've ever seen. That is fantastic.
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Canadians are Americans though, because North America isn't just the USA. The accepted way of referencing the different peoples clashes a bit with that fact, which is why I argue the semantics. As it is, the language is actually fine; I had a gringo Spanish teacher (I white (and American too)(but from which America? :3)) who'd been in the armed forces and was stationed in Latin(o) countries. "I'm American," when people asked where he's from. They'd chastise him: "Oh? Which country in Americas?" Guess he found the minority of smart-asses and I just glomped onto another subject which I could argue about?
As far as I know (not very far), most (if not all) other countries with "United States" in the title also had "Confederate," hence the understanding of "United States" being in reference to "of America."
What are countries called on maps/globes? USA so United Statesian. Mexico so Mexican.
You addressed all that already though. I submit, but will continue to use United Statesian. I-I-I-I like to subverrrrrrrt, ya see. Also don't understand the convoluted way you seem to have been attacking USA in your fourth-fifth paragraphs. shrug
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"Add in that only the Native Americans have a preceding right to the term"
Well, no, not exactly. Prior to the invasion of settlers, there were no "Native Americans". There were Navajo, and Comanche, and Irapaho, and Iriqouis, etc. These were all distinct nations/countries, and even today many of them do not like being lumped together like that.
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Right and preference are completely different things..
The point was that Latin America, having originated at the same general time as the USA, has no real basis to assert taking umbrage at the United States' unfortunately straightforward name and subsequent demonym [though, as I noted, the United States' habit toward forceful international presence may certainly motivate the matter].
It's not even necessarily that the Native Americans have better claim to take umbrage over the matter, or any such thing, but was just being stated for the contrast above.
Again, to emphasize that the matter is primarily a matter of regional phrasing- even if some Americans certainly lay claim to their name with enough lack of consideration to make taking offense over it meritable.
Or, put another way:
There's no basis, chronological or otherwise, that makes 'American' more valid for the continents as a whole, or the nation specifically.
It's not like the USA came in after the Americas had been founded as such for a long time, and stated 'okay, we'll refer to ourselves as Americans now, screw all y'all'.
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It'd be cool if they did state that.
But in the end it doesn't matter. the situation today is that, in the English language, "American" is generally someone from the USA, though that terminology is not universal in all countries.
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That's basically the point I was making, yeah. :P
I was just trying to clarify that there's no solid reason to argue against the current usage.
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I can call whatever I want anything I want, Sally. XD
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it's called football here, and probably in all countries in south america.
USA just likes to shorten all the words, so they are americans and they have their football. can't blame them when they talk between each other, but it's a bit annoying when they talk with the rest of the word with those terms...
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I just came for the Fatball vs Fitball controversy.
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There's Football, and Handegg. But it's important to remember that neither of these are Hockey, ergo are irreverent.
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My method of differentiation typically gets me in trouble so I'll decline from sharing it again.
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Sadball :(
With hooligans and gazillion dollar wages I can't really give a crap anymore what's what.
I enjoy watching Messi sometimes, I enjoy small teams doing well, and I enjoy important rugby matches, other than that...meh.
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I don't give a chit about any sports, but the arrogance with which "real futboll" was said in a recent Taco Bell commercial challenged my inherent American United Statesian pride (workin' on that though). Hence the discussion to see what people thought; "gridiron" is the correct answer I guess, so now it's just an argument over semantics. Nyeh
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Officially American football is called "football with protection" here in Turkey ( which rolls of the tongue much easier in Turkish)
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Sorry but in the UK its generally called American Football and people from the USA are called Americans.
And football is rarely called soccer over here, at least by people of my generation ;)
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Check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL0ICIftUeQ :)
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The NFL?
I call it the sport Americans invented to play against Americans so that America could win a sport.
Source:Facts.
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sniffle geez guys, always picking on the little guy which is actually the most bestest of countries according to those within that country. Why must the self-proclaimed elites be victimized so? We'll certainly drench our $100 bills and fat rolls and guns with myriad tears tonight!
Also: 'merica. Fuck yeah. Comin' again. To save. The. Motherfuckin' day yeah. 'Merica.
From what? Lack of 'merica.
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football: where 22 players chasing and playing with a ball by their artist foot
the most nostalgia moments come when you heard this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JE1-Hd6Gdw
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you forgot about aussie-rules football: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football
Basically, 200 years ago, there were no formal rules for any version of football or rugby (or any real distinction), and every town had its own distinctions. Rules were introduced for Rugby in 1845 (which involved picking up the ball and running with it) and for "Cambridge Rules" (which became Association Football) in 1848, for Australian Football in 1859, Canadian Football in 1868, and for American Football in 1876.
Those old games are somewhat recognizable as the games that they have become, there has been some evolution over time, such as Association Football prohibiting drop-kicking the ball (except for the kicker), and the introduction of the forward pass in American Football, which originally had little impact, but over time came to dominate the game.
TL:DR
All forms of football and rugby have the same origin. The rules were cofidied slightly differently in different places, and over time the games evolved into distinct forms.
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I no forget rugby. It just didn't seem relevant. Football and football get confused in name. No confusing rugby with football; rugby is legit gladiator shit. Football is more akin to a scripted performance because the liberal protection (the fans are more masculine than the players; no pads in (")riots(")). Also Illuminati.
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it's a separate game. It's much closer to rugby than to either american football or soccer, but it's still its own distinct game. So is canadian football, for that matter.
(hell, that's not even going into the distinctions between rugby league and rugby union, or indoor soccer, or arena football, etc. etc.)
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So the actual lesson is: Refer to a sport by both name and country in which it's played because diversity exists and to pigeonhole every ball is wrong
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just don't do that at a match/game or you might get your head kicked in
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it is relevenant, in that these were all the same game once upon a time. Rugby favored picking up the ball, and Cambridge prohibited it (but you were allowed to catch it). In the USA, Cambridge rules fell out of favor as Rugby rules were introduced. Later on, the snap was introduced, followed by the forward pass, and the game slowly evolved.
But if you want to see some real gladiator shit, check out the Ba' game on Orkney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgaRRTn7qFc
Basically, half the town teams up against the other town, with sometimes hundreds of people playing at a time, and the goal is to either dump the ball into the sea, or out of the town gates (depending on which side you're on). There are no rules, townsfolk will often board up their windows, and cracked ribs and broken bones are not uncommon.
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Sports ain't my thing; can take or leave singular combat. In such a massive crowd as that, though, the free-for-all makes me feel all tingly. Be in there throwin' 'bows left and right.
The lesson is we all come from the same place, man and ball. So come on people now. People be people now. Football is soccer people. People ball is fo' yo' feet silly.
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"Rugby" in Polish.
EDIT: Well, I searched for it on Google, and it looks that these two are not exactly the same. So, pardon my incompetence if that's the case. I'm not actually a person interested in sports :/
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American Football...
Futball....
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Football: Game played with pigskin
Football/Futball: Game played with
soccer ballblack and white round ballFutball: Most popular sport in the world
To those who aren't United Statesians: What do you call United Statesian football (the one with Super Bowl)?
You
can'tmight call it American football (just as youcan'tmight call people from USA "American,")as thatwhich includes Canada, USA and all of South America... but because "America" is a title for the whole of the continent, it's a much more compelling issue to argue about rather than the use of "can't" in an informal prompt in which the writer has no means to endorce their use of a word (")incorrectly(").When was the discrepancy introduced? Where did the word "soccer" come from?
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