Just a random question sove in my mind, do you believe in Illuminati?
Do you know them? If you do, what do you think about those famous starts
Like Eminem, Kesha and others... They are in those Illuminaty, are
there any chances to get out of this thing? How does it feels being in that Illuminaty what do you think?
P.S sorry for bad english, its not my main language.

Lets Discuss

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If you here only to make jokes or other lame stuff, then ignore it, and go win some games.

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I believe in... Mike Ross.

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Here are few videos about eminem:
Eminem
1:10 eminem says "Rain Man"
1:23 eminem says to the people to say "Rain Man"
Well and 2:50 eminem says that his soul is possessed demon " Rain Man"
And who is the "rain man"?
Its the demon, its believed that the artists sold to him soul for Fame and money.
Word Rain is societied with fame and money.
There are a lot of pictures, when the money are raining from the sky.
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And here is a few lyric from other artist who are talking about the rain man

Jamie Foxx – Rainman
“Release me, ohhhhh uhh ohhhhh. Ohhhhh uhh ohhhhhh Rain Man, Rain Man, Rain Man.”

The Game – Cali Sunshine
“With more ass then Delicious. That my flavour of love, We make it rain like Rain Man, when he play with the glove,”

Jay-Z – Anything (ft. Usher & Pharrell)
“Amateur pole dancing, come and get this cash from me, They call me Rain Man, She tried to rain dance.”

Eminem feat Dr. Dre – Old Time’s Sake
“Speak of the devil it’s attack of the Rain Man, Chainsaw in hand, Blood stain on my apron.”

W.A.S.P. – Burning Man
“Rain Man on fire from the hells of hades.”

Bob Dylan – Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
“Now the Rain Man gave me two cures, Then he said jump right in.”

Mims – Doctor Doctor
“Predicted the rain, man just like Rain Man, Down in the sun on the island of cayman.”

Eminem – Rhyming Words Freestyle
“Got brain damage, I’m dumber than Rain Man is, there’s mayonnaise on this, I need a plain sandwitch.”

I think this religion or some other sh*t exists, but they are not going to public, they are puting simbols, on fame videos
to the artists who sold them soul to rain man. The Illuminati wants new world order.
Even there is a simbol on the united states dolar.

its hard for me to discuss, because im not so good at english...

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I still believe (in the 80s)

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Jesse Ventura has some good episodes on them, and David Icke's The Lion Sleeps No More is also great and he covers basically everything.

I know they exist and they are out there. Everything from music to movies and clothes.

I have seen A LOT of t-shirts in Pull & Bear stores that are about them. The eyes and the triangles, all there. Some say "Saved". Others say "The Eye Sees It All".

I know I won't ever buy anything from that brand again.

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Here are two actual pictures I took from that store:

http://i.imgur.com/s066WLv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PvpJitF.jpg

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This is epic :O they are selling t-shirts with simbols.
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0:40 Look at the video right you will see Get the Exclusive T-shirt!
Another thirts with all seeing eye.

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You bet they are.

Also, very nice find.

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Yes, all those stars even justin bieber are in Illuminati. Only DMX is the only one who want to destroy that religion or something. That he can stop the rain, he was in the jail for 2 years, and one person asked him why hes in the jail, and he told him, who listening his songs will know.

DMX

DMX

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Agreed.

Also about Rihanna, she's one of the worst.

Here.

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Saw this video, creepy

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2PAC had a lot to say against the Illuminati as well. Michael Jackson would have liked to talk about it i'm sure but in his interviews he always says "I don't wanna say too much, bad things might happen if I do" It's just sad that they labeled him as a child rapist and ultimately got him killed.

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Hahahaha.

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I believe i will win some gift here someday somehow. Illuminati isn't far fetched in comparison so i guess i don't doubt it...

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Talking seriously now, Illuminati existed and is (if some group still call themselves that way) a lot like the rosen cross; A small famous group existed and after its short-life other groups claim or are pointed at as being them; Their heritage, founded by some former member and such.

The New World Order babble comes from avant gard ideas from the enlightment age; Back there it made much more sense, the world lived with much more ignorance and religious powers in control(still happens today, imagine back then) so the only way these could see to fight it on more leveled grounds would be secretly manipulating, infiltrating and such everywhere; A NWO(any of many ideas as such) stands for nothing else more then utopian aims for a new age for society, one where the rich, religious or few families wouldn't sit where they are. Doesn't fit much for modern day.

Im more 'scared' of the much more real and threatning alliances purely for money and control, only some of those work like 'secret societies'; From these 'clubs' of 'one hand helping each other-behind the scenes' to the hundreds of political deals without this 'secret society' garmnent, those are real and make lasting impacts everywhere, dangerous ones even.

People are still much afraid of the more esoteric ones, simply effect of stupid medieval christian fears; yeah i say that from a christian family and i have a uncle that is a priest(before anyone criticizes me), and im not saying that being christian means being stupid... fear of the unknow and fear fed from medieval superstitions is what is stupid(fear is by definition irrational). This very uncle of mine doesn't bother with this issue, but ive met many other that sees anything 'esoteric' like something from devil worshipers who only want to do arm
-as far as i remenber, no illuminati, satanists, masons or such moved any genocidal war

Illuminati (any of the groups that might be called that) aren't that different from free masonry or groups like AMORC; Ive been into free masonry but jumped out soon... its nothing special, really not that different from any other 'open' esoteric line of thinking you will find elsewhere. Surely they have their theories, rules and such that are exclusive, wrapped in secrecy for 'deserving eyes only'... its like an rpg or school, content locked away until you reach a point the masters above you think you understand your level well enought to go deeper. Only difference is that they won't talk much about it (but few do, and its really not that hard to find some 'highest level' content elsewhere).

on a side note: funnily enought those most famous secret societies come from really deep christian roots; from free masonry to illuminati, they share a lot with gnosticism and esoteric christianism overall, mixing eastern esotery (all the way from Zoroaster to egyptian 'Hermetics') with jewish esoterism. In most cases they perceive themselves as more 'trully' christians then all, still closer to the roots back from the first temple of jerusalen and such.

Besides: the symbol on the american dollar comes from the free masons, they were quite polically active in the past. Still are but half or more politicians of past north america were free masons.

By the way that symbols isn't exclusive to them at all, its one of the 'cheapest' most common symbols elswhere; The triangle/pyramid represents the triplicity (read further if you wish, start at 'holy trinity'), the eye is enlightment; The inner eye so to say, those who seek enlightment (all esoteric lines will tell you that the way is looking inward)...

Both symbols are way too common on esoteric material, much more then the symbol of venus witchfied by wicca and holywood (the pentagram).

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That was too Serious :O

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lol

Seriously, some private giveaway groups seem more secret to me them most of those secret societies are; I mean, i was invited to free masonry once but not for those groups i can't even see their entries... thats much more tangible conspiracy stuff right there!

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This is good in a book xD

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BTW, American money are Federal Reserve Notes, which is private money owned by private corporations. John F. Kennedy was warning us about this before he got assassinated. We need to get the Bank of America notes back!

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Nop

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What about this ? Click

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Yes she is in that Illuminati 100% That video has tons of simbols every second

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That is so fucking obvious.

What they basically want is to control the humanity. But because we outgrew in numbers, they NEED to reduce human population as much as possible so they have a better control on us.

Just look at the fucking title. That's what they want the most.

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They plan, and God plans, and God is the best of planners.

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Templars should keep them away from Europe so I don't think I know any. Also I don't think it is likely that flashy people like mentioned stars would get in (after all it's supposed to be secret organisation, right? they don't want people going around with big neon sign "imma illuminati") If it's about getting out... well, just look at Church of Scientology - with super secret and possibly dangerous organisation it would be way harder if even possible (apart from dying but I don't count this as an escape route since, well you know why).

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Illuminati wants NEW WORLD ORDER, I have no idea what is it. Because earth has tons of people, and those tons of people listening music, watching films, they are puting simbols in there, so people could see it and some how join those illuminati. Like those stars, they sold soul for money and fame, so they are slaves to the devil, and they have to do what devil says, like put those simbols in videos. You are slave, but you can have what eva you want. YOu can watch eminem videos, hes talking about that, that he wants to escape from this Illuminati, all his videos and the lyrics are talking about that. In his video not afraid, he said, that the video is about to not afraid of demons or something like that. Well its tons of teory, some of them true some of them not.

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I only believe in Jesus Christ... and taxes ;)

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Are you talking the Real illuminati or the illuminati from the hood that rappers think is real

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Welp now I want to play Deus ex again. Thanks op.

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The world would be cooler if there were 'illuminati' like in deus ex and other conspiracy inspired fictions. It would mean we would had a real 'bad guys side' for everyone to join and fight against. Unfortunally things aren't that simple... wished they were, so i could fight the system with black shades and looking cool.

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I'm now imagining Christopher Walken as J.C Denton. Now that's just awesome.

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I THINK WE HAVE DEUS EX MOVIE RIGHT THERE. YOU SIR ARE A GENIUS!

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It's the corporations, maaaan.

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I believe reality is twisted and nothing is permitted.

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Obviously they exist and everyone knows about it

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I won't say they don't exist, but I'm not sure if I care enough.

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This.

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I believe in Templars and Assassin's Creed.

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+1

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Everything is true, nothing is permitted.

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They exist, http://archive.org/details/WilliamCooper-beholdAPaleHorse

JFK's speech on secret societies and wanting to stop the corruption got him murdered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEZ6FdE9mE

Mystery babylon
http://archive.org/details/MysteryBabylonSeries-WilliamCoopertranscriptIncl

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I'm calling for Mulder and Scully. You are ducked man, you shouldn't talk about them.

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Yes i do belive. After all the videos i have seen on youtube and so on.

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Dammit. I thought this was going to be a God discussion.

Yes, the Illuminati did exist. And no, any notion of a secret society that exists today is the result of fiction, mental illness, or wishful thinking. If you want to talk about organizations that pull the strings and shape the world according to their own machinations, this thread should be titled "Do you believe in governments?" or "Do you believe in corporations?"

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+1

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"fiction, mental illness, or wishful thinking" you are ill-informed. I know people involved in secret societies so maybe you should think twice before calling people "mental". You clearly know very little on the topic.

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well duh secret societies do exist (if you know people who are in a secret society, is still a secret) he was talking more about super secret cults who pull the strings of the world to their favor.

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Some symbolism certainly exists in pop music which is kind of concerning. Other than that it's nothing more than rich white people remembering their frat days.
"Conspiracy" organizations are not actually secret. CFR, Trilateral Commission, Wall ST lobbies are all very real and very exclusive clubs for the elites.

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I've always wondered how people can actually believe this stuff, just like aliens or paranormal stuff. I'd love to see some hard, valid proof that the illuminati are up-and-running in our modern world.

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aliens exist, just tell me, why we would be the only living race in the the infinity that is this universe.

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I don't disagree with you, but where's the proof? Maybe the other races are at the same level as us and haven't developed space travel yet. In all honesty, finding out about other races would NOT be surprising. It's all about the proof, though. I don't believe anything until I see it myself.

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i believe so far that there is another species in another planed, is another thing they havent evolved or they just dont care about us, there is sure a lot of weird stuff on earth that maybe caused by aliens, like the nazca lines, but until we get some proof, there is not much to believe.

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Well, personally, I don't believe in the whole 'aliens caused X' at all.

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That's because you are overburdened by a sense of rationality. ;)

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I find it completely sensible to not believe something until valid proof or until I see it.

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A scientologist gave me a pamphlet on the street today.

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I don't view the notion as anything requiring proof. Yes, before we can say definitively that other intelligent life exists we would need to see concrete evidence of it (such is the way of science). But we can also reasonably say that, given a) the propensity for life to pop up pretty much anywhere on this planet, and b) the immense size of the universe and availability of such life-supporting real estate (itself a question merely of probabilities), it's likely--nigh guaranteed--that life exists elsewhere. Can we prove it yet? Nope.

So is there life elsewhere? It seems a certainty. Intelligent life? Also very likely. Intelligent life in our galaxy? Meh. It's a possibility, but not nearly certain. I do believe there's other life in the Milky Way, but it may not be anything we can have meaningful communication with. It may only be bacteria. But given how many worlds we now know are swirling about out there, I strongly suspect that life has gotten a foothold somewhere. Perhaps many somewheres.

It's the Drake Equation; we just don't know what the values are yet. Though, we're finally beginning to fill in a few of them.

EDIT: This is also fun to play with, just for curiosity's sake. ;)

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But, that's just kind of obviously. I don't know how many unique lifeforms are on planet earth, but there's a lot. Heck, there's just too many different types of bugs, and a lot that we haven't even discovered yet. It's just that it's hard to actually prove it. Logically, you could think 'There HAS to be life out there... Life finds a way, etc.' but there still has to be at least a smudge of data or proof to back it up.

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I take it as a statistical certainty. The numbers are too immense for even the rarest of events to occur infrequently. The universe is astoundingly large. And as a very smart man said, "The universe is huge and old and rare things happen all the time."

You're right that there has to be evidence to declare the supposition as truth, but we can also say--with the sheer weight of statistics on our side--that the likelihood of life existing elsewhere in the universe, and even within our own galaxy, is so extremely high as to be a near certainty. That's a guess, but one I'm perfectly comfortable endorsing.

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No. It's just a theory for people with low I.Q's and boring lives to follow.

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that's exactly what I though

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My boyfriend is a pretty big conspiracy nut, I think there's half truths to some of that stuff but a lot of what he tells me "is true" I tell him is a crock of shit. Wherever there's power, there's gonna be corruption... I believe more in widespread corruption (far more than we know exists) but not that all cases of it are linked. If people like Jay-Z and Beyonce (supposedly big players according to Illuminati believers) actually had any sort of involvement in such a thing, they'd be nothing more than patsies that's for sure.

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