Charitable Losers - Update, new recruitment thread to come soon

Update

Some people seem to misunderstand my reason for wanting to limit bundles in some way. I don't hate them. I've done a lot myself. The problem was with wins balance. When the group was first started, not many people could join the group, and there were very few people that could exploit it by having their ratio boosted easily through high bundle or dev key giveaways. 20 months later, we have a lot more people worthy of the group, but also more people that would exploit how the group worked, given it relied on little more than wins to gives ratio. I introduced the anti boosting rule to limit this somewhat, but there were still users that would get in soon enough. Trying to decide on a fair boot point was also difficult .

In the end, since its the second most popular poll option (just behind a suspension, which I'll talk to Khalaq or Bobofatt about later), I'll be adding a Real CV related system for group membership. I still need to go over a larger number of former group members to get a suitable final number, but I expect to be using a Real CV ratio of $1 won : $1.50 gifted minimum for invite, while going below 1 : 1.25 will result in a warning followed by a boot within the week, though a second warning likely won't happen if a user skirts the limit again too quickly.

This will ensure that people aren't messed up by gifting bundles, but those who were potential problems previously won't find it too easy.

Previous invite rules will still apply, possibly with a reduced win : gives number ratio, but otherwise the Real CV ratio will be the only change.

Note for previous members - For reinvites, the requirements will be relaxed. If you fall between 1.5 and 1.25 (or whatever is picked as the final ratio), you can still request an invite to the group.

Hopefully not too many people are annoyed by these changes.

I expect a new recruitment topic to be no longer than 48 hours at the worst, and hopefully less than 24. I'll just be finalising the Real CV numbers and chatting to Knsys to see about a tool that will allow new users to confirm they can get an invite.

Original post

I've been trying to work out suitable new rules that take the changes to SteamGifts since v1 into account. I'm quite terrible at it. I want to balance things well, but I can't really find a good point which allows the group to be fair to all users.

Right now, higher numbers of bundle giveaways can allow members to win more without a boot. I'm trying to work out a good ratio for when a user should get the boot, but as it is right now, a set amount would punish people who have given less giveaways at higher prices. I've just been booting when I feel like they have enough, but that isn't really suitable, and means I can't make others do it either.

I've been trying to work out something that keeps the classic rules that were made when we couldn't even see wins CV and bundle gifters were capped at $30. I'm getting the idea now that just isn't going to work out as well as I'd like. We have long time users that wouldn't pass some of my ideas. We have me unable to pass the current idea (like I said, I'm terrible at this).

Since I can't just tell all the brats to get off my lawn and force CG to change this site back to the way it once was, I'm going to collect input from all users that frequent this site. Should I continue the group with similar rules to how it was started, get working on a system that uses Real CV Sent and Received (and if so, what ratio do you think should be used for this), should I try another system to be mentioned here?

Should I retire from leadership and make Khalaq and Nerka do all the work?