Your favorite Star Trek series?
50 years of redshirts dying horrible, horrible deaths. Someone please think of the redshirts.
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I have a special relationship with each of the series, so it's hard to pick a favourite one. Just a week ago I started rewatching The Original Series after seeing Star Trek Beyond.
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I'm so grateful for netflix, finally got a chance to watch TOS from start to finish a few years ago without borrowing dvds from friends:)
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One of my favorite series like fav top3.
For me the best are The Next Generation (by far) and next was The Original Series.
Enterprise wasn't that bad either, it was actually very good but at first I didn't like it very much. The least I liked Deep Space Nine but maybe it had some better parts..
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I didn't really appreciate DS9 until after it was over, unfortunately. I was in college and it was still running in syndication, along with Babylon 5. I fell in love with both shows around the same time, which is somewhat ironic considering that they're extremely similar but both are different enough to occupy their own unique place in science fiction storytelling.
The first couple seasons of DS9 can be a bit rough, I recommend watching the 2-part premiere and then cherrypicking your way through, just watching ones whose synopsis seems interesting. Season 3 is good and by S4 it was extraordinary.
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I grew up with TNG so it holds that special place with me. But I really like Voyager too and of course TOS is full of fantastic classics. I wasn't a fan of DS9 growing up but re-watching it as an adult, I did find it quite interesting. I watched a hand full of Enterprise and it wasn't all that bad, just a lousy opening theme song :P
Once in college I was listening to the radio while the DJ was giving out free pizza vouchers. He'd ask some sort of trivia question then someone would call in to answer and win a coupon then he'd move on the the next trivia question. One of the trivia questions was to name all 5 Star Trek series. Guess who won a free pizza that day :D
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Congratulations on your prize:)
I think DS9 is probably one of the deepest, most compelling and most revolutionary tv shows ever made. If you look at most popular tv now, with darker more mature subject matter and season-long plot arcs, it's quite evident that it had a huge impact. SF TV tends to do that though, despite the naysayers and despite those who ignore it, to their loss.
LLAP:)
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1) Next Gen, for sure. see below
2) The Original comes in second, because while it has some really good episodes, it also has a lot of really bad episodes. It was also more action-heavy, because the studio wanted the wild west in space. Next Gen is much closer to what TOS tried to be.
3) Animated Series.
It had most of the orignal cast, and, due to a writer's strike, a lot of the writers (who were allowed to write scripts for animation). It's basically years 4 and 5 of the 5 year voyage, and while the animation is quite bad, it allowed for the kind of visuals that would be too costly for live-action
4) Deep Space Nine. Not as deep as the earlier series, but at least they tried something different
5) Enterprise. Admittedly, the only series I didn't binge-watch from start to finish at least once. The biggest problem is that the studio/producers boxed themselves into a hole, and they were constantly pushing against (and beyond) the limitations logically expected of a story that takes place a century before the later series the temporal war was a disaster, not gonna comment on the Xindi, and seriously, WTF was wrong with the writers who wrote the finale?
6) Voyager. It started strong, but quickly petered out. Too many episodes had cheap resolutions (oh look, the teleporter is working again), and a few other major flaws, that just made it a bit ridiculous note: I was actually considering whether to put Voyager or DS9 4th, but then I remembered the later seasons
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Good answers, for certain. Although I disagree on DS9, I think it's the deepest Trek in many ways because it questions the utopian themes that the rest of the franchise is based on, and delves into issues like war, PTSD, and other issues decades before the mainstream had caught up.
It's always a toss-up for me between TNG and DS9 as to my favorite, but TOS is always my next choice.
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fair comment. They did have some interesting themes going on. At that point I was probably just getting Star Trek fatigue. both watching as they came out, and when I binge-watch that shit
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Yeah I think that's why I didn't really keep up with VOY more, and I was in high school during ds9/voy which meant less time to sit around and watch tv,especially syndicated shows that they sometimes preempted for football or whatever.
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well that, and Voyager dropped in quality from season to season. Looking back, as a whole, each season is worse than the one before yes, there are good episodes in later seasons, as there are lousy ones in early seasons, but, overall, it was a downward trend
I'd actually be willing to entertain the argument that DS9 beats TOS, because, if we're completely honest, TOS had a lot of garbage episodes, and the mediocre ones aren't even good anymore from a modern perspective.
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Never watched any of the series.
Saw the reboot movies a few years ago though, they were pretty good.
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Voted for The Next Generation because it was the one I watched and enjoyed the most as a young kid.
Deep Space Nine and Voyager never seemed to caught my attention...
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DS9 was something I never fully appreciated until I was a bit older, a bit wiser about the world. Try a re-watch:) I've never made it through VOY from start to finish; I've seen multiple episodes but out of sync,so I'm finally attempting to do so now, on season 2 right now.
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True, sometimes with age you can appreciated better some stuff. Will try to give a glimpse on a few episodes :)
Also, I will just leave this here...
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<3 that image, I should've posted that in the topic!
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THE ANIMATED SERIES (1973) It's on Netflix now. Check it out and tell me I'm wrong!!
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Yep, TAS is cheesy and fun, with that quintessential '70s cartoon style.
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The animation screams the 70's. And cheese. And there's a least one or two Futurama plot lines in it (the entire crew turning into babies), plot lines that are very unique and not to be found anywhere else in Star Trek. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the only series to feature an episode where Spock falls victim to a love potion and falls in love with Nurse Chapel, correct? I just don't see them pulling that story off in the live action show, but in a cartoon it works.
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It's true, they took a lot of great liberties with the animation. I found myself thoroughly charmed by the "sequel" to the Trouble with Tribbles and the third appearance of that irascible Harry Mudd.
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The Next Generation
Deep Space 9
The Original Series
Voyager and Enterprise are a toss-up, not really a fan of either.
The movies are hit or miss, but I like most of them. Not a fan of the new movies, way too much action, doesn't feel like Star Trek.
Side Note: I have the complete Original Series, Next Generation, animated series and the old movies on LaserDisc. Got an amazing deal on the set :) (Deep Space 9 wasn't released on LaserDisc here :(
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Not a fan of the new movies, way too much action, doesn't feel like Star Trek.
It's just dumbed-down action sci-fi with a famous name/ship/crew. Not worthy.
I wish I could say the same, unfortunately I only own TNG on dvd myself. LLAP:)
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I Totally lucked out. I was at Half Price Books (my favorite store) and they had some for something like $0.50 each. They had a ton more for like $8 each, but I talked them into letting me have them all for that price. Was about $100 for the motherlode!
Some had stickers on the wrapper that said $34! I did the math, and someone spent well over $3,000 for them all back when they were new 0_0
And actually I got like 4 DS9 discs, but that's all they released here :/
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HPB is the best. I unfortunately haven't been that lucky at my local stores, but about 2 yrs ago I got Star Trek:Ships of the Line hardcover for $4.50 when it's usually $20-30
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I love Star Trek in all it's iterations.
It has some kind of magic that I haven't found anywhere else.
Live Long and Prosper.
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Just curious, did you grind through Mirror Invasion and get the rewards?
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Nope, I did the DS9 invasion pve queue a couple times, but it was simply too messy and not worth the hassle, I don't have full Mirror rep on any of my characters :/ that's about when I stopped playing though, I'll probably drop in to try the new "agents of yesterday" thing, but I don't like the temporal cold war storyline, i'd rather have them evolve the current universe/time story.
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I needed the ISS Stadi for admiralty, and 50k dilithium doesn't hurt.
By Mirror rep do you mean Terran Rep? You were able to freely choose what rep marks you wanted.
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How do so few people like DS9 best!?!? The character development!!! THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMEEEEEEEEEEEEEENTTT!!!
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I think it's because a lot of people haven't watched it since it aired originally. I certainly didn't appreciate it then, being too young/intellectually lazy:P
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+1 (well, second only to TNG) I even named my ferret Dax.
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Well, I lost it when Sisko bombed a planet full of civilians with biochemical WMD to catch a single terrorist :| that was way too much development! :V
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I definitely like DS9 the most - ironically I couldn't see all the episodes when it was airing here... and I saw all of TNG/Voy/Ent. (TAS was never aired in Hungary, and I'm not sure about TOS).
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I see only Star Trek (2009), Into Darkness (2013) and Beyond (2016).
First two was pretty good (as I fan of SW :-)), but third is like a cheap TV series - crash ship, rebuild ship. Looks like they will do the same all over again in next series.Do they out of ideas?
It's like SW Episode III - they could not come up with the normal endings, and then said "nah... that will do...".
Or Rogue One... I mean, who run with gun like that? https://youtu.be/Wji-BZ0oCwg?t=1m20s
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I voted DS9. It started slow, but it got better and better as the seasons went on. Gul Dukat (and Damar) both started out as one-dimensional "baddies" but evolved into far more. Garek was one of my favourite Star Trek characters. So many layers to that onion!
I loved the Jem'hadar. Once that started...so much goodness! I loved the episode where Captain Sisko clearly skated over the moral line of white and black so he could get a certain race to stop watching from the sidelines. Fans of the show know which episode I am talking about.;)
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Garak is hands-down one of my favorite characters in any series/franchise/mythology. I really love the whole station crew, especially O'brien, Sisko, and Nerys.
Captain Sisko clearly skated over the moral line of white and black so he could get a certain race to stop watching from the sidelines.
It's a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!
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Since you proved that you indeed are a DS9 fan, you have been assimilated to my Whitelist .:)
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There are some Garak novels co-written by Andrew Robinson but I've not read them. You?
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Unfortunately, I have not. I may own it (I own well over 100 Star Trek novels), but I'd have to see if I have them. I honestly don't think anyone else could have played Garek as well as he did.:)
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btw, i saw the movie.
ST:beyond.
damn stupid movie. waste of time...
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Really? Consensus seems to be that it's the most "Trek" of all nu-trek/kelvin timeline films. Why didn't you like it?
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stupid ass story.
just when they need something they get it.
one scene made worse then the old James bond movies (where the car is in front of a moving screen, really old).
i can continue. sadly bad.
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It's ironic that along with the Inner Light and Far Beyond the Stars these episodes are considered among the best of any Trek series and all of them deviate far from the standard Trek style.
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It is The Sisko!
I remember seeing your Kirk before, but never the latter. Great stuff.Are they your two favorite Captains?
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Probably yes. TNG is the series I started watching as a child and I do enjoy it, but I think TOS and DS9 were blessed with the best casts and characters!
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I definitely think that DS9 had the best character development and some of the best overall characters, but it's a toss-up for me between TNG/TOS as to which crew I like more, though I do tend to return to TNG more often than TOS. DS9 is the only series I've watched from start to finish multiple times, though.
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TNG had many great characters (although also a few I just found annoying). But I think there was a conscious decision not to make any single character too important and to divide story lines up relatively evenly amongst the cast, with what felt like the Captain Kirk role split between Picard and Riker to avoid having an overpowering individual.
I think TOS benefited from an over-the-top Captain as the lead and other strong characters/actors playing off him. DS9 I think also benefited from a similar set up - while it was good that Picard could effectively take a holiday from some TNG episodes and the show could still work effectively with supporting characters I think I preferred that Sisko remained far more of a focus to DS9 and consistently forced other characters to step up their game and challenge him. Even if he wasn't the main character in an individual story then how he would respond or react typically would be.
And although DS9 got off to a shaky start I think it also accumulated many other advantages. That it stayed in one location allowed it to develop far more complex plots and relationships than a star ship moving from place to place, and that it had many regular non-federation characters allowed it to bring many new interesting perspectives to the franchise.
But maybe mostly I watched the whole of TNG wondering why nobody punched Q and then Sisko delivered...
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Apparently, Season 3 for TNG was the source of a major shake-up and change from Story-Focused Episodes to Character-Focused Episodes which makes a lot of sense in retrospective viewings. It was still "alien-of-the-week" but it allowed different characters or small groups of characters to take center stage. Luckily, most of the actors were capable of carrying this off(to this day I don't think anyone has delivered "technobabble" lines better in SF than the TNG cast especially Levar Burton and Brent Spiner) and when they weren't usually the story itself was still good enough it didn't matter too much.Obviously notable exceptions exist.
I think TOS was intended as Kirk/Spock/McCoy being one man split into three parts.They could all stand alone but it was best and the show was best when all 3 were involved together.
DS9 is literally the only ST series I can re-watch from start to finish without skipping episodes. That's not to say I don't, or that I always watch it sequentially (at least the first few seasons) but I tend to just watch it all the way through. I love the characters, the situation, the plots, the overall concept. And:
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You're a very talented artist. Thank you for sharing those with us.:)
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The original was rough, but the original series casted movies were mostly good.
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Indeed, especially II:Wrath of Khan and VI:Undiscovered Country.
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They learned their lesson from TMP, and even though the writer/director of WOK hadn't seen TOS, they went back and watched it and decided what TMP was missing was a great villain.Enter Khan Noonien Singh:)
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I've only watched ToS + movies and am currently watching Enterprise, but my favorite is the original series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM7C0GLclJk
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I guess ENT got good around season 4 but by then it was too late. I read the book "Federation:The First 150 years" which covers many of the events of ENT and think I will finally try to watch it again soon.
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On this day in 1966, a show that no one could have predicted would become as popular and as relevant as it is today, first premiered. Live Long and Prosper
Perhaps it's worth mentioning:If you are a Netflix or Amazon Prime subscriber, you can watch every Star Trek series and many of the movies, any time you wish.
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