Well a simple question, so much peoples hates origin, then waht is the reason?

for me:

--> No good promos how steam

--> Can redeem a game code of a game you already have on your account, and you lose the code(well this is hard to do but....)

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This and mostly since it just copies Steam and wants to distribute games. I don't need Steam, Origin, and Uplay all running at the same time when they are all theoretically one thing.

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Why do you need to run them at the same time? I start Origin only when I want to play something that I have in Origin. Steam I have always running.

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and Desura* xD

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That and it spies on your computer

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Yeah, same here. I use origin for certain games, but Steam for most of my gaming.

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Yeah, I understand the hate for EA as a company (to an extent), but the Origin service seems totally capable for it's intended purpose, though of course, not as extensive or robust as Steam, which is much more established in years. I understand people hating EA for requiring such as service, it splits the established market and social networks of friends, people hated Steam for the same back in the day, but I don't entirely understand the extent that people choose to hate said service beyond what it actually is, just a DRM protection service and download platform.

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EA. Period.
Edit: I'm not a huge fan of steam either because it's still DRM, but pretty much every game requires it anymore.

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I don't hate Origin, just don't use it as often as Steam.

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This. Fine program. It is actually less intrusive than Steam. If you don't intend to use the online functions of a game, you can uninstall the software once the games you want are installed. Obviously can't do this for games that require an online connection, but others are fine.

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+1. Only thing Origin/EA is good for ATM are the Sims games...

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+1

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No Linux support.

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ya

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i dislike haveing to deal with alot of clients jest to lunch my games steam and orgin is annoying to as u must login online to play i dont allways have internet so i can usly play games i buy

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Lies. Hell, you can uninstall the client and most games will still work. UPlay has the required internet connection.

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Not true, that may be the case with some but definitely not all. I have FIFA 12 and it launches origin automatically when launching the game even if you're going to play offline only.

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You can add Battlefield to your steam library and start it up from there, sure it will still start Origin, but also bring you to battlelog.

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it's simple. they killed C&C

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101% Agree!

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+1

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also dungeon keeper, the Ultima series....they also killed Westwood Studios, Pandemic Studios, Bullfrog Entertainment....the Day-One DLC.....

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Dungeon Keeper :(

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wing commander is the worst as they remind you every day by using origin's name for the damn platform

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+10.00000 same reason for me for never ending hate

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Very good point

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you can't buy codes as gifts

but i don't hate it

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owned by EA and EA is evil

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why

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Whenever I try to use it its horrible, slow, down, but steam has been going down a lot recently so cant really hate on it that much.

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Origin may not be as good as Steam, but it is not as old as Steam either! Even Steam didn't look too promising in the beginning!

If there's anything I hate it's the idea of Steam being a monopoly!

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Precisely. You need competition for all things, including game marketplaces.

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Considering Titanfall is Origin only I guess we do have some competition there. Otherwise, plenty of reasons to hate EA, not so much Origin taken separately. (Yes microtransactions in games at full price, I'm looking at you)

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If I was going to hate a system like this, it'd be Arc. I resisted Origin for a long time mostly because it didn't have anything I wasn't gonna buy on console or through Steam, but that changed yesterday when I picked up Titanfall. There's nothing really bad about it. At install there's even a check for whether you want it to autostart, so I can leave it off and save resources unless I'm playing Titanfall.

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The ones that vehemently hate it are Steam-only snobs and anti-EA circlejerkers. As a gaming client, it's fine.

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Name one new good feature only present on Origin ...

You cant right?! thats why

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we dont need platforms +1, that only exist to host a select few games from a certain publisher...

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Origin is just EA-only DRM and that's all

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"Origin is just EA-only"
No it's not.

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YES, IT IS

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Can't tell if you're being a troll or if you really believe that Origin is EA only...

Anyways...

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It's just partnership program for broad assortment (Hey guys, look here! We have not only our own games!).
P.S. And who needs uplay AC4?

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the plain fact that it hosts another companies game, partnership or otherwise, proves it ISN'T ea-only. The word 'only' refers to exclusivity, meaning NO products from competitors. Therefore, if there is even one competitor product in the catalogue, even if it is a crappy f2p mmo, it tears down the 'only' barrier

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Look on it's starting page:
shitload of EA games...So, de facto, it's EA DRM. Formally, it has some other games somewhere...

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yes yes. but you seem to enjoy avoiding acknowledging the fact that there still is at least ONE non-ea game. therefore, shitload or not, your little ea-only theory is still shot down. plus, the drm can be uninstalled while still allowing you to play many of the games without origin. again, shot down

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ok-ok, AD of EA games everywhere, 3% of non-EA games and 97% of EA games in store makes Origin not only-EA DRM...And AC4 is on Origin, as you think, yeah?

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yes ac4 is on origin, part of your 3% non-ea games as it is ubisoft

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Its not even DRM. Its used for the online, but if a game can be played without a connection, you can uninstall the client and still play.

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EA invented offline mode only in 2013 AD :-/

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Wrong. Many of the games don't require an online connection. Granted, some require it like Sim City and Spore, but many others don't.

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De facto, yes, but I think it's just unfinished work of EA (some old games, which were exported to Origin).

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SimCity doesn't require it anymore...offline mode was just patched in I believe.

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Lol what? Did you just +1 yourself?

Also you can merge account in Origin, that's a useful feature.

I love how Origin is about games. There's no "bloaty" feature like steam market and profile levels, it's just a store, a library, and a friend list.

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Steam forces you to use market and gain levels with cards?

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Steam forces you to start in offline mode because bots are rampaging through Steam Market blocking servers?

Yes, yes it does.

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And, unlike Steam, Origin's offline mode usually works.

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I own Sleeping Dogs on Origin (from Sqare-Enix), which requires the Steam client to play...

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You are foolish if you believe that.

And no question returns. They won't argue with you. If the game doesn't work, you have 24 (or 48, I forget) hours after trying it to get a full refund. Haven't even played it? Full refund possible for up to a month IIRC. Granted, this is only for purchases within the Origin store, but you aren't going to have that level of service in Steam. Steam support will make it difficult if not impossible to get it refunded, or even removed without a refund, as a US friend with the AU version of L4D2 found.

Also, live customer service. I waited 15 minutes for a representative, then another 30 to get the problem solved (several old retail CD keys added to my Origin account).

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Delta, maybe it's because of small user database, didn't think about it (fast support)? I don't think Valve employ only lazy imbecils

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Live is still good. Steam doesn't even have that as an option unless it was hidden really well? With Steam, you are often waiting a week for a canned response from someone who didn't read the ticket, and often two or more to get the problem solved. Need the problem solved so you can purchase a game before the end of a sale? Too bad.

Besides, the Battlefield games ensure they would have enough of a userbase.

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I know that Origin accounts stolen and trading so often on russian forums...

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abou support this a good point yes, i get my key back less than 40minutes after my mistake, but this is a mistake origin can correct.
But anyway, we need more games, more promos, more peoples on origin, to see what will happen.

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They have a good support

Valve should learn from them

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Twitch integration...

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Gaming Client? It's perfectly fine. Just need more community features like Steam without bloatware.

Heck, I even don't hate Desura client.

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+1. Make another trade about Battle.net and Steam-only snobs and anti-Blizzard circlejerkers will be here too. They want to buy ice cream from Steam 'cause stores are useless now....damn this kids.

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i disagree i dont like it compared to steam from purerly using it, i dont hate origin but i dont care for it really, ive got steam origin arc and desura installed and i dislike origin the most, now i wont boycott it or anything like that but it is annoying to use for me

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I'd think if anything you'd dislike Arc since it's a resource hog and calls home with a lot of information on your PC and what you're doing on it. Honestly it's a pain to have games only available on one or the other, but the reason I didn't get Origin until recently was Titanfall is the first Origin game I wanted that I didn't get on console. I'm actually pretty impressed with Origin's refund policy and customer support. That's one area I actually think Steam could learn something from them on.

As for some earlier comments, Origin is EA only in the same way Steam is Valve only. Granted most of their games right now are EA but not all, and Steam looked like a crappy way to distribute Valve games way back in the day. Origin could grow into something good. Plus I wouldn't complain about another site that started offering sales the way Steam does.

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What I hate about it is the fact that EA is trying to force it down everyone's throat by refusing to publish any more new game on Steam. There are also a bunch of annoyances for me but I could grow past them if I was given a choice.

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this basically. if you look to Uplay for example you can still get their games on steam. It will still automatically launch Uplay as a work around but at least you're not restricted to using 1 client for a certain publishers games.

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This is a main problem. There are a lot double DRM games on Steam, you can buy Steam games in Origin store or Ubishop, you can even buy Uplay games on Origin and vice versa, so there's no technical difficulties with it. Then why I can't buy Origin games on Steam? Why can't I complete series in one place? Or purchase DLCs to already owned titles? That's really sad.
Until recently there was also a huge problem with extremely overpriced games in EU store, where all EA games costed 50€ (and $20 in US at he same time), but luckily it's finally fixed.

Please note I don't hate EA, just don't like few things about it. I'm not even interested in their games - the newest I own are Mass Effect 3 just to complete the trilogy and Dead Space 3 from bundle. At the moment they don't have anything worth buying for me.

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They were actually doing releases on both services. But because you had to get the DLC ingame / through Origin, not the Steam store, Valve removed games like Crysis 2 (which didn't see a return until the the complete version) and Dragon Age 2.

It was after the change that prevented them from releasing their games with such DLC that resulted in the stop of dual releases.

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But the point is the same - you can't buy newest EA games on Steam.

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The point is, Valve made the move that stopped that. Not EA.

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+1

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-1

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Any source for that statement or you just guessing? I mean, it's hard to believe that Valve itself decided not to sell some games and forfeit obvious profits. Especially in such inconsistent way - they still sells Mass Effect 2 which has similar DLC politics. I rather assume that both companies couldn't have to reach some agreements. Technical side isn't the reason. Look at Ubisoft games for example. In fact, Steam Store is just a reseller - it gives you a CD key and game files. You still have to activate games and all DLCs using Uplay client (by the way, in my opinion it's much more convenient than downloading games directly from Uplay). And so for most other titles using third-party DRM.
In addition selling games without DLCs wasn't such a big issue for Valve, they did and in some cases still do it with GfWL games which have really fucked up DLC system. So I don't buy the story that Valve suddenly said "EA's system is so bad" and removed some of their games. EA is, at least partially, responsible for this situation too. And I don't like them because years passed and they apparently not even try to resolve it.

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It was mentioned in at least one article about the removal of certain EA games at the time like the games mentioned, though I don't have the time to try and find the articles which got a response from EA right now, so just a summary. Valve started removing games because of a TOS change that was retroactive on several of their more recent titles (though older games were unaffected, like the Dragon Age: Origins base game, despite only the Ultimate including the DLCs). Valve was requiring all DLC they offer to be purchasable through Steam, rather than Origin / Bioware depending on the game. Valve wouldn't budge on this, but EA wasn't willing to give Valve profit on the DLCs as well. Since they already had their own service at the time, titles just started using that only.

I'm not sure when the change happened, but it was sometime in 2011 going from the release of Dragon Age 2.

Not sure how GfWL DLCs got away with it, but EA wasn't given that chance.

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EA is evil company, like Putin's Russia in a real world. And if we continue funding them - gaming industry will die in sorrows (like Bioware or other good devs).

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Putin isnt evil. he just cares about his russia.
obama has been more evil than putin ever was.

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Obvious troll is obvious.

Anyway, since when was EA not a company in the real world? Pretty sure they have corporate offices and everything.

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Why do we need a reason, just pure hate.

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LOL +1 xD

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Owned by EA.

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Expensive price and stupidly low discount. Yes, I'm cheapskate.

20 USD for ShitCity, no ty. 5 USD and I'll give a damn.

60 USD for Titanfall, no ty. 30 USD starting price and 75% off next Christmas then I'll consider Origin.

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That's fine if you only buy games at $5 or less, that's how I get a lot of mine, but you do know that you can get Origin keys from 3rd-party retailers in the same way you can get Steam keys from sites like GMG, right? I bought Titanfall yesterday from G2A for 30% off. I know that's well above your price threshold, but it was low enough I was willing to pick it up.

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I really don't hate Origin. Yet, as said before, Steam is better and includes a fuller set of features.

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And not long ago, EA has invented...offline game mode! Hoooray! Awesome technological effectiveness...

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And one more important thing...I can't play my favourite ME series with all DLC without paying them 100+ bucks...

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what you just said + exclusive games (only origin)

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very few free games

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It killed my father

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EA sucks, the best thing they can do is back is catalog to STEAM, and of course stop ruin games like C&C, ME, Dead Space and Dragon Age (surely i miss others). How i miss Westwood Proudly Presents .... C&C.

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dont have a problem with origin per se, its just that i dont like clutter. i already have steam, so i dont really want to install another program - so essentially i say the same for uplay as well, or desura. IF i didn't have so many games on steam, i would have no problem at all picking origin instead. I dont hate origin and i dont hate ea.

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It's not Steam.
And it's EA.

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And unfortunately, EA=Origin, like Valve=Steam

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Exactly what I was thinking.

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the ultimate consumer sucker. i dont want competition because im currently already using something else. apple loves people like you, lol

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+1

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