Buying this year's jingle jam?
This has to be a joke....
Everyday you are hoping for something better, everyday they put you on the ground and make you smell the shite they are giving away.
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What the hell is this, from a VR game to DLC for MMO
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I'm fine with crap games but so far we've had two games I can't even play and 2 packs of DLC for games I don't play so like, wth :'D Ah well, charity's charity.
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Frog Climbers, I don't have a gamepad and it doesn't support keyboard and mouse.
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I hate it! I did giveaways for most of the first games so I didn't really care what they were, but I realized that I wasn't really feeling the "advent calendar" aspect of it (cause making GAs is kind of a bother and made it just much less exciting to wait for every reveal every day), so I thought from that point on I was just going to activate every game I got and it wouldn't be that bad, just one small treat per day is nice. But while I'm willing to give any game they might give me a try and see if I enjoy it and if not, oh well, I'm not about to start playing some MMO just so I can try some cosmetic stuff they gave me for it.
I can't use the codes, it'd be really hard to trade them and most of the time I can't even make GAs for them. Completely useless. They might as well have had no reveal for today.
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wtf .-.' blade & soul dlc, meeehh, and i can't giveaway it..
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Yeah, it's not even on Steam. I'll just wait for few more days and if this fiasco will continue, will refund whole 30$ and buy the good games from it separately on Christmas Sale. :p
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Yup, I already contacted a Humble support about 650$ changing to 500$ on their reddit. Response was as follows:
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More than half of the games for Yogscast Jingle Jam 2016 are not yet released. The value of the bundle is based on what Humble Bundle thinks the bundle is worth of and we are not actually charging you $650 in order to get the games.
If you are not happy with this purchase, I can arrange a refund for it.
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So yeah, with that in mind, you can refund it, Humble support is the best I've ever seen. First of all, that response came within an hour after I sent a ticket and all the previous times I've been helped to solve the problems with keys, if for example, key was already redeemed or my gift link used by bot. So I trust them. ^_^
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And they clearly stated this: All of the games in this bundle are available on Steam for Windows,
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Hah I guess that's technically true, but then they broke the rule of "new games added every day".
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And they also said there'd be 650$ worth of stuff before changing it to 500$, and they were also hyping up the "Only X amount of bundles left!" ALL the way until they got 50,000 and then SUDDENLY they realized they'll actually have more to giveaway.
I get that it's for charity, but that doesn't make these practices any less unethical. In fact, the fact that they are using such unethical techniques to sell it kind of takes away from the charity aspect. Hard to feel good about taking part in a charity event when it's so shadily run.
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Humble has never changed it from $650 to $500. There was a post on the Yogscast subreddit that said the RRP would be over $500. $650 is over $500. I get it that everyone is itching to grab their pitchforks and join in the witch hunt, but the bundle was never "changed" to $500.
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True, but usually when something is valued at over 650$ you do not say "over 500$" as that implies its price is close to 500$. I would say that it's a good sign that the humble page still says 650$ but considering everything else they've done, I'm more likely to believe it's just an extra bit of misleading.
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Yeah, they just said that "they think it's worth 650$" so basically if I think my favourite game is worth a million bucks, I can write it's a 1.000.000$ bundle in my opinion. ;p
With all those priceless dlcs that they are giving for games, it can actually be worth well over a billion bucks. xD
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Luckily i'm not join in, save my $30 for Bandai sale.
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Just wait until they start giving away Godus keys. That will be legendary. xDD
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i am still waiting for Woodle Tree Adventure, and the smash hit Absconding Zatwor.
Worst of all, is that this bundle will be running while the Steam xmas sale is in full force...
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Guys come on, its well known this bundle is for the charity rather than the games, its Christmas stop being so angry. Everyone who bought this has contributed $30 to a really good cause so that maybe someone can enjoy Christmas just as much as you are going to! :) That's a wonderful thing for you guys to do!
Think of the positives of how much you've contributed to someones happiness rather than the negative of receiving only 2-3 really good value games. :)
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Mm, you know, you're definitely right. I think I got so caught up in the expectation of 1 game/day that I kind of forgot why I bought the bundle in the first place. I've donated to some causes I truly believed in, and no amount of cosmetic DLC can take that away from me :)
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Exactly :) the real prize you get from this bundle is the uncharted, unbundled gift of self worth and pride from helping out a worthy cause! I'm glad you got that! :)
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well,certain kind of people's brain doesnt register the word -charity- :/
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+1 So much hate and complaints in this thread... The bundle is obviously made for charity and people are complaining so much. Imo if you bought the bundle (as did I) you know it's for charity and everything you get is bonus, for those who still complain that it's not only about charity -> you bought the wrong bundle.
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Out of that 30$ you gave them 15$ will go for their salaries, 10$ will go for the game developers, 5$ will end up being sent to charity corporation, which will spend 2,5$ of it to pay for their employees and then someone will steal 1,5$ from the remaining pot. 1$ will be sent to that kid with cancer, who will be happy about it. So yeah, screw that Yogscam.
I rather send that money straight to the charity I want to help and focus on buying game bundles from Humble. :p
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That's a really negative way of looking at things, so long as it means how I've read it, so please read to the end in case I've misunderstood!
I did some aid work as a younger lad, I went to schools and gave pens and books etc to kids who thought all their dreams had come true. A pack of like 24 HB pencils at the time were 50p or so. So for £1 I could have made 48 children happy, not only that, where I went a lot of schooling depended on having the equipment. So if you had a pen and a book to write in, you could go to school. £1, gave 48 kids the chance of an education.
People have to pay employees unfortunately and developers have to be paid in kind too. Whatever the amount, whatever it is, the more you spend the more that gets to the people that need it. The £2.5 in wages for the charity, keeps the charity in business, its still going to the charity.
I get your point, but its Christmas, c'mon lets not bash a charity gaming bundle because of "weak" games.
I do agree with the sentiment of direct giving but donating £1 as "thats how much they'll get anyway" isn't true at all, but if you are saying donate £30 directly, that Sir, is definitely an admirable thing to do and I applaud you!
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Hey, yeah I mean, I'm donating 20€ to Finnish Red Cross and 20€ to People with Physical Disabilities Organization monthly and don't expect anything in return, just because I want to help them. Also I donate blood twice a year, and unluckily my blood type is A+, so it's not very demanded, but I still like to help.
However, when it comes to HumbleBundle, Yogscast or any other kind of network, I just seek for a good deal for myself (as selfish as it sound) because I rather donate the money straight to those who distribute the help, than go through different networks, who all take their shares.
And respect for you to have worked as aid. 😌
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Thats very understandable! Direct donation is always preferable!
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AFAIK every humble bundle is a charity purchase, that i personally do almost every week.
I think it is pretty legit to have well funded expectations about the games included in one of these bundles, and get angry or happy if the games included are in line with each one's tastes. It is not against the joy of participating with a good cause.
I personally have paid 28$ for games, not to feel better, but to play during Xmas.
No matter the cause, i will still feel ripped off if the games included on a blind bet bundle are pretty much scraps, and at the end of the day, my 28$ have the same value as everyone else's, even if others don't feel it is fair to complain, because it is for charity.
By the way, the sketchy promotion of the bundle is not particularly a charity 'move'.
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My point is 99% of bundles are charity focussed but thats not the main focus. This bundle is known to be predominantly charity based, you should go in with the opinion that I'm giving to charity and getting some games as a reward. Usually its a case of im buying good games and charity is the reward.
Also 11 of the games so far have been previously unbundled, they're not really scraps, you might not like them or value them but scraps is a diservice.
All in all, I just wanted to remind people that charity is why you got this, if you wanted good games spend $28 on 4/5 better paying bundles. Don't feel bad that you didn't get perceived good games, feel good you donated to a worthy cause.
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All in all, I just wanted to remind people that charity is why you got this
Not my case, sadly.
I bought the bundle because of the promotional promises: '650$ of awesome stuff', 'Redeem on Steam' and '50+ games', and the thrill of having a game each day during Xmas.
I still count 7 unbundled games, not 11. And yeah, a VR-only game, a freebie, 3 non-steam cosmetic DLCs, and several 6-8 times bundled games are pretty much scraps...
Of course, it is just my opinion, and I thank you for sharing your positive perspective on all this, but i won't take the blame for a pretty dubious promo...
cheers
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To play devil's advocate, we are only about 1/3 of the way through and (1) there have been 7 unbundled games (on pace for ~20), (2) we are less than 1/3 of the way through the $650 RRP advertised (i.e. perhaps there are some bigger ticket items remaining), and (3) there are still 40 games left to be revealed (based on the Yogscast saying there were 50+ games after the initial 6 were revealed).
I share the frustration; since Toy Odyssey the selections have been lackluster. I think there is reason for optimism though, especially since last year's bundle finished strong with Rust.
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Thats ok mate, you dont have to agree with me all the time, we can disagree without descending into anarchy! Best of luck with the rest of the bundle, but at the very least you should take away you've given a lot to a worthwhile cause. :)
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Support charity. Choose where the money goes between six charities: Mental Health Foundation, Cancer Research UK, Whale and Dolphin Conservation, Special Effect, GamesAid, and ILGA (via the Tides Foundation). Plus, if you'd like, support another charity of your choice via the Paypal Giving Fund.
I mean I don't see how I need to prove that but there you go, the onus is on you to prove that is incorrect.
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Calm down mate, I've got to give them the benefit of the doubt, there's no proof at all they aren't going to give the money to charity. I'll take them at face value and believe they are going to give the money to charity.
Occams razor, the simplest explanation is usually the right one, in this instance the simplest explanation is that Yogscast are going to give the money to charity whilst keeping a portion for their own wages, give money to devs etc. I'm afraid that's how all charity events work, very rarely does someone work entirely for free and for the benefit of charity. You'll never see 100% of your money go directly to a charity, I'm not sure if that's what you mean or not? Maybe you have misunderstood how your money is going to be used?
You are of course, entitled to your opinion, but I'd urge you to reconsider and think about it logically, what you are suggesting would require a lot of co-operation and is a highly risky venture for them all to take. Especially seeing as the charities I mentioned above would get £0 and have the risk of protecting Yogscast as they siphoned the funds.
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That's a wonderful thing for you guys to do!
Did you buy it?
Of course not, The CV isn't good enough.
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I understand you are disappointed with the bundle and even angry at it, but some of what you are saying is perhaps in the heat of the moment.
For example, as has been stated by others, the bundle isn't over....it's not even half way....there is plenty of time for them to deliver on $650 worth of games. As for a game every day, well I think that's down the marketing, DLC is technically a game(but I agree its a shady practice to call it a game) but if you are trying to sell bundles, you up-sell it as much as you can. A game that has been free before, is still a game. I just think its perhaps not what you'd want.
As I've mentioned above, your conspiracy theory regarding them stealing the money, I really doubt that's true, I'm sure charities see a decent portion of money from this event. I can't claim to know who Yogscast are really, or the event "yogs adventures" you are referring to. I just know what this event is and the previous ones they've held as I've read about them on the forum.
My overall point remains the same, don't feel bad about not getting the games you want from the bundle, feel good you helped out a worthwhile cause! :) Also, its Christmas so that's something else to smile about!
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I don't have Blade&Soul key anywhere in my bundle page...
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blade & soul key is not displayed in south korea :(
Though Neverwinter key was impossible to use in south korea, Humble gave a key.
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It's ridiculous how much you people are complaining and crying about this bundle.
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I'm looking for Robocraft Jingle Jam Pack (DLC), if anyone wants a cheap game to trade.
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Still got one, hit me up on Steam if you're interested.
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Is it really going to be over 50 games as they claim?
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they are already banning comments on the official reddit post
I'm just a subreddit mod, not part of the Yogscast.
This is not a transaction or a purchase. This is a donation. You are donating to charity and are receiving some random things in return out of the kindness of developer's hearts.
You are not entitled to anything. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. It's not the Yogs' fault that you have poor decision making skills if you decided to buy something you didn't know the contents of without knowing you'd like it or not.
i am personally going to abandon the discussion about the bundle for a while, because i am getting pretty pissed with each unlock, haha
take care, and good luck to everyone
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So far I've been happy with donating to charity and treating any games as a bonus - but that is the kind of thing that could just about start to annoy me.
"You are donating to charity and are receiving some random things in return out of the kindness of developer's hearts." No, I'm pretty sure I donated to charity but was still promised $650 of stuff. I didn't expect all of it to be great - but previously free games and obscure VR only games and bullshit content for FTP games instead of games could start to wear thin...
"It's not the Yogs' fault that you have poor decision making skills if you decided to buy something." Yeah, that isn't making me feel great,,,
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I don't know - but certainly various claims have turned out to be crap. 'New games every day' has turned out to be games or maybe some junk for FTP games instead. 'We are only selling about 50,000 of these bundles' and '$650 of value' appear to be becoming questionable...
I still don't mind the charity donation and I wouldn't ask for a refund. But I feel the integrity of Yogscast is becoming an issue.
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I haven't had any interest in this bundle; if I want to donate to charity, I'll do it directly, not through here to get a bunch of games I don't want (though there appear to be a few good ones). But i haven't had any reason to comment until now. This caught my eye:
"It's not the Yogs' fault that you have poor decision making skills if you decided to buy something you didn't know the contents of without knowing you'd like it or not."
...So you are literally saying that if you buy their bundle, you have poor decision making skills. You are saying you KNOW their bundle is garbage and people who buy it are poor decision makers. That is one of the worst things a business could EVER post or appear to endorse. Also, if you are going against promises you made, why would your consumers believe the money really is making it to charity? You have to stick to what you said the bundle would be, and insulting your customers is beyond terrible.
Geez. Glad I didn't give these people any money. I'll hit up charities on my own, thank you very much. <3
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Sorry, but don't take out only a part of their comments, treat it as a whole whole.
This is not a transaction or a purchase. This is a donation. You are donating to charity and are receiving some random things in return out of the kindness of developer's hearts.
You are not entitled to anything.
It's about buying and then complaining / asking for a refund, they are not talking to everyone who bought it (and happy with it)
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I don't see how that changes things. They're entitled to what they spent their money on. If the bundle isn't delivering what it promised, then that's an issue. From what I've read that they promised and what people are getting, they're not delivering what they said they would.
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I'm not protecting them, as I also feel that there are way too many statements around the bundle that's cloudy so they can twist it towards their good, but on that they are correct. Yes, people are entitled to whatever they want to spend their money on, but still - paying for a bundle they don't know the content then complaining about is just pointless.
Also now after some sleeping I found out what was my problem with your comment:
You are saying you KNOW their bundle is garbage and people who buy it are poor decision makers. ou are saying you KNOW their bundle is garbage and people who buy it are poor decision makers. That is one of the worst things a business could EVER post or appear to endorse.
The whole comment of strscrm7 you referred to starts with "I'm just a subreddit mod, not part of the Yogscast." It's like a mod would complain about a HB in Millew's topic, they are unreleated to the bundle and it's creators, so there's nothing in picking on them about their own personal opinion.
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Looking at the additions, I'm fine with having passed on this.
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Whew, people are really mad about something they dropped $30 on. The DLC only day wasn't great, but there have been some great games on here thus far and it's there's so many more days to go.
As someone pointed out the reddit thread said "Over $500 worth of games" not equal to $500, but even if it did, WAH I'M ONLY GETTING $500 WORTH OF STUFF FOR $30. Really guys?
Keep that Christmas spirit up!
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I still have my hopes up though. A bad day indeed, but I think there will be some good unlocks this week or the next to justify the $500 promise the bundle offers.
In any case, I'll refrain from using the keys. If things really go this way from now on, I'll ask for a refund on the bundle.
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The amount of freaking out here and on reddit is pretty hysterical. We are 1/3 of the way through the bundle. We are less than 1/3 of the way through the advertised RRP. There are approximately 40 games left. Everyone needs to calm down and let this one ride out before jumping to conclusions.
The trade market has been pretty decent for this bundle as well, especially since almost half the games so far have never been bundled before. I'm still convinced there will be at least one or two higher tier reveals late in the bundle (a la Rust at the end of last year's Jingle Jam), and if they keep up the pace of never before bundled games I'll be very happy with my donation.
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That's not the reason people are complaining. They're complaining because they've lied. First they said it would contain 650$ worth of games, now "only" 500$ (pretty sure they also said it would contain 65+ games and now 50+). They also said it would include New GAMES everyday but they also added a DLC. Not to mention they said there would only be 50000 bundles (thus making people buy it as fast as they want) and now there will likely be more bundles.
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They switched the initial games with a lot of garbage. It's natural they have more than 50000 copies available from each one now.
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If somebody dont want Neverwinter DLC and not planning to use it, i would gladly accept it. ^^
Let me know.
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While I'm not impressed about the discrepancy in the true RRP, I hardly see the point of getting up in arms a third of the way through. It is very likely there will be strong titles revealed towards the end of the bundle, around Christmas and New Years.
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yeah the true value will come in the last few days,, just like the previous versions when the heavy hitters got released the last couple of days to draw in potential buyers who were leery.. Think last year it was Gmod and Rust...
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Hopefully they won't reveal "Solitaire Christmas" for the Christmas day.
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Day 12 Faeria Early Access Bundle http://store.steampowered.com/app/397060/ Priceless
Day 13 Saturday Morning RPG http://store.steampowered.com/app/263320/ £4.99
Day 13 Rocket Riot http://store.steampowered.com/app/460190/ £6.99
Day 14 Anomaly 2 http://store.steampowered.com/app/236730/ £11.99
Day 14 BiT Evolution http://store.steampowered.com/app/342020/ £6.99
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Where did you get this? I'm surprisingly ok with those offerings.
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Somebody was actually joking with Animaly a day ago, apparently they were right :D
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So some extra's on 1 f2p game, and 3 repeats for me again, except rocket riot.
Great. :x
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I was actually hoping for Anomaly 2 when 11bit Studios announced they will have a game in this bundle. The rest are not my cup of tea and I'm disappointed they ruined the surprise by leaking the next games.
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It looks crappy as hell. One of the worst bundles ever for the price tag. I wonder where the heck is the "$650 worth of awesome stuff". Also, I don't care about the charity aspect. They're advertising it as a bundle and promise you over $650 worth of games in return while clearly giving you "priceless" junk. Bait and switch strategy and scammy as hell. I sure hope the money gets to the designated charities in the end.
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Day 12 Faeria Early Access Bundle http://store.steampowered.com/app/397060/ Priceless
another free game :(
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Interesting. I'll keep Saturday Morning RPG and Anomaly 2, trade Rocket Riot and BiT Evolution.
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Damn, they revealed so far in. :o Cool, I'll go ahead with the chart. Thx!
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Of note:
Note: Any Steam account that has already purchased and applied a Faeria Early Access Bundle key cannot apply another.
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Wow....so this IS actually the worst bundle ever done ?
14 days of crap, only 2 games worth (Guilty Gear and Shadwen)......
What kind of surprising dirt will we have the last 15 days ?
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If anyone else might also be interested in that, just leave a reply to my comment here and I'll add you on Steam (I'm actually off for a business trip the next 2-3 days now, so don't worry if I'm not responding immediately).
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Anyone else need the stuff, add me. I wont use it
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Yogscast Jingle Jam 2016
View Yogscast' live stream on his twitch channel here!
Previous Yogscast bundle: 2015
Important notes:
"Purchase soon, we are only selling about 50,000 of these special bundles!"It's 50.000 of the $30 bundles, and it may be more. Read more here!30th &, 31st!Contribute $5 (about €4.70) or more to get DATLOF and a shout-out from Yogscast
Contribute $30 (about €28.21) or more to get these games... and more added EVERY DAY in December!
Notes:
*cards for Toy Odyssey is not yet live, but will be soon!Cards are live!Other stuff:
Retail: $585.47 (Steam titles)
Warning:
"Guns of Icarus Online", "Not The Robots", "Deep Dungeons of Doom", "Binary Domain", "Pressure" & "The Blue Flamingo" have previously been free! Giveaways CANNOT be created for those!
Are you interested in knowing other ongoing bundles? Feel free to check out the new master thread!
Wondering what games you already own from this bundle? There's an extension/UserScript for that! It's called the RaChart™ Enhancer!
Thanks Fruitbean
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