Did you build your own computer?
For that price going with AMD is a better idea imo.
edit: I said that because thought your budget is $400, but seems not.
You need an i5, for example i5 4670K, or even without the K, or even a cheaper i5, you don't need i7s, 8Gb of RAM 1600Mhz or if a faster is at same price with Case Latency CL9, a good brand PSU and Motherboard, a GPU like GTX 960, a 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 20-30$ CPU cooler, a 30-50$ Case like from Cooler Master, I would say these are essential parts.
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Right now i5 4690K is cheaper or same price as 4670K. So I would recommend that, there's no need to buy a CPU cooler since stock cooler is good enough unless he plans on overclocking.
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That one really looks like "the one". What is the cheapest cpu with the same socket?
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Oh it would be fine. She needs a PC now because of school stuff but it's smart to make it from wood that can be carved to something amazing if you catch my drift.
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Ugh. Don't buy the Celery. She will hate you for it later :)
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i5-4440 probably, I think even this one is just enough, unless you want to overclock, which requires to pay more money for electricity and buying a CPU with K.
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If you buy a 4690K you are supposed to overclock it (the "K" stand for overclockable")
If you won't overclock go for the 4690, is basically the same cpu, but "locked" (and cheaper)
edit: someone already said that nvm
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There is not really a budget yet. We are aiming at some lower tier CPU and we will change it to better one later. Gpu vill most likely be Gtx 980 but it will also come later. Right now I just need the roots for it.
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Not sure what your budget is but what I would first recommend is getting a good power supply unit. I would suggest EVGA SuperNOVA 650G1 comes with 10 year warranty, fully modular, and enough to power GTX 980. Motherboard is kind of hard to choose unless you know exactly what CPU you want since it's socket dependent.
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I would recommend buying the higher-tier things from the start, instead of replacing them with better ones later. I mean, it will become much more expensive to change the CPU later on, since the price difference between some i3 and i5 isn't much, and the quad-core i5's are really, really good enough. (Unless by 'cheapest' you mean "Celeron").
And remember, if you don't plan multiple graphic cards, a 400-500W PSU should be more than enough. (I've got an i7 and a GTX260, and it consumes like 250W tops.)
Motherboard should be the cheapsest, that has all the features you want (like 4 ram slots).
RAM - more ram is usually 'better' than faster ram. 8gb should be the minimum.
HDD - seagate - 3TB for the best 'space-price ratio'.
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Of course I would buy i7 with 4x titan if I would be made out of money...
The thing is that she needs a PC to use. Like in a week... That laptop might die at any secomd...
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I would not turn your nose up at it. It's still a very good graphics card for the price.
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If you don't mind paying 70% more for 10%-20% more performance, then go for the 980.
By the way, interesting to see how well this 970 problem worked out for NVIDIA. Even though it's not a huge deal in practice it apparently makes people willing to pay a lot more for the 980. I wonder if NVIDIA will learn the lesson from this and cripple all $300 cards in small ways in the future.
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:') it still has 4 GB vram
only the last 0.5 GB is on lower frequency
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Get an AMD FX 8350 and an AMD R7 GPU and you'll have 80% of the processing power for less than half the price of a similarly ranged Intel+nVidia combo.
But even if you are adamant on the Intel CPU, get an AMD card. Way better price/performance ratios.
As for CPU, a mid-range Intel Core i5 should be the best option. For example a 3570, 3590, 4570, 4590…4670 or 4690 if you can afford it (4690 is probably the best choice overall).
If not aiming for a later overclocking with a better cooler, then go for a normal one (with no K at the end).
Or if you really want to go to excellent price, get an AMD APU (A series). I saw streamers use it to run Unreal Engine 3 games (Arkhams, Borderlands, and so on) running it at 720p@60fps, and it costs less than most Intel chips or nVidia cards, and it is a GPU+CPU in one set.
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Sorry but I will not buy a single AMD CPU nor GPU again.
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good choice dude^^
for undecided ppl out there, here some arguments against AMD CPU's/GPU's:
for the CPU's:
they're not only lacking in proccessing power, but also the ernergy-consumption is gigantic and they tend to heaten up pretty much from idling :D
for the GPU's:
they lack in terms of hardware-quality, don't have physX support and in my opinion a horriffic software^^
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You realize the lack of PhysX support is merely the result of nVidia locking it to their proprietary CUDA and forcing other vendors to build CUDA drivers and license PhysX to support it on their own hardware. That kind of shady strong-arm deals are one of the reason I refuse to buy any nVidia GPU. AMD has Havock which is just as good as PhysX and has the advantage of working with any GPU as they have the good sense to not punish the end user for going with a competitor's product.
There was a hacked PhysX driver available for a while from some guy who made it compatible with AMD chips but nVidia quickly killed it. And if nVidia didn't have such a shitty OpenCL driver (which, unlike CUDA, is the open standard) they could have used that for PhysX and everyone would have benefited from it.
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Then prepare to dig deeper in your pocket though, since nVidia is a bit overpriced, even in mid-range. But in this case make sure that the GPU's name end with a x50Ti at least, or even better get some x60 or x70. Anything under is so weak it's just not worth it.
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Going to be AMD GPU for a while because I have a spare one but it will be switched to gtx 980
And if the rumors are true about AMD/Nvidia crossfire thing with DX12... I might put it inside my PC!
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I'm not sure that will be that feasable, they use different architectures. Doing a software bridge would be either wonky or tax CPU, IMO.
Also… I wouldn't call a 980 mid-range or on a budget build, but if you can afford it this easily, then yes, get a 4690 or 4690K with it, and a 450+ Watt power supply, and at least 8 GB 1600+ MHz memory. But I was under the impression you are trying to build a rig in the 6-800 USD range. ^^
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No. it was about 23:00 when I made this thread and I meant that I'm going to build a mid to high end PC "core".
A platform that I can upgrade later. I'm starting with 400€ and will probably end spending around 2000€
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I quickly set this for a friend a few days ago, you shoudl check for compatibility issues :o
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That Crucial RAM, idk, but I see lots of ppl complaining about it.
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it was just the cheapest at the moment I added it to the cart, for a few bucks more ~5 there was the hypex ones :)
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there are cheaper from Kingston, it cost even less before, evne HyperX cost 64€ here.
Anyways, you know that you can buy in any Amazon site, not only the one from your country, shipping should be same to all Europe for lots of products, unless you buy from very far places like Uk, so take a look at Amazon.de, Amazon.fr and Amazon.es
And also there is an option to enable Free Amazon Premium trial, you do that and you get free shipping on items that Amazon sells(but not for items that some stores sell through Amazon)
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yup yup I know about the prime thing, I'll admit that in Italy Amazon has way higher prices (see the list posted by another user on pcpartpicker, usa prices are way lower :c) so the amount you spend on that build is a little flawed, but most of the pieces work good for a cheap build, it needs a few tweaks :) About buying from other Amazon site, I should try that, I'm just worried about the warranty :D
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don't ever buy from amazon-store, they're just overprized in any way, watch out for hardware/electronic only sites and safe up to 30-40% in some cases^^
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tX8Fyc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tX8Fyc/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks PH-ES614PC_BK ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $748.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-19 17:33 EDT-0400
fits all the requirements, could add any video card(ie 960), as the 750 ti is the minimum card for gaming at 1080p medium-high settings. I put a full tower case, but a mid tower for $40-50 is a better fit IMHO. the i5 could be switched to a non-k version (4460?) and the cpu cooler removed, but this is a pretty well rounded pc.
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750 ti is minimum? O_o
i don't think so since my 660 ti OC handles almost everything i'm used to play at 1080p and maxed settings and smooth 60fps
f.e. bf4 and borderlands TPS and other similar ones^^
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GTX660 is somewhat stronger than 750Ti, although they are close in price range.
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Yep, the GTX X50ti is about the minimum nVidia card for 1080p, the 660 ti is two tiers higher and only one gen older, and would be more powerful.
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here is a build for you http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jgGBYJ
Total: $720.96
It went a little overkill for PSU, in case you want to upgrade your GPU.
There's only one 8GB memory stick, you can add another one to have dual channel later.
If you don't plan to OC, i5-4690 with stock fan works totally fine and saves you some money.
For mouse and KB, Logitech Desktop MK120 Mouse and keyboard Combo is a good choice for the money. $14.99 on amazon.
Remove the Wireless Network Adapter if you don't use wifi.
this build has a Red/Black color scheme.
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You may want to change that from 1x8GB RAM to 2x4GB for dual channel, the performance difference is measureable.
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I agree. But if you plan to upgrade in the future, I'd rather add another 8GB to setup a 2x8GB dual channel as I mentioned.
Otherwise, if there's no plan to upgrade ram, then 2x4GB is the way to go.
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For a lady? You should put inferior parts because you know, she's a lady!
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If you're trying to be funny, you're failing miserably...
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Look who's talking... If you want to explain your behaviour, now is the time...
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There's nothing to explain. There's nothing confusing here for the people of at least average intelligence.
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A well deserved place in my blacklist is what you just got. And I can gurantee that's a place for you to enjoy. Foul mouths, beggars, cheaters and re-gifters. What a great bunch!
What a shame that you can't really interact with them :/
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I hope your "revenge" made you at least feel less frustrated since it can't help you with your hate of Apple products nor can it help you with your paranoia and agressive tendencies.
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It was a joke, no need to start an argument about it. It's your choice to blacklist whoever you want anyway. Good luck with your build.
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"There's nothing confusing here for the people of at least average intelligence."
That was an insult...
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If his lady wants to play games actually then no Mac lol, Mac is for rich or at least with decent amount of money ladies or their gentlemen who normally don't understand nothing in PCs besides thinking that Mac is better quality than Windows, so these ladies get a $1000+ iMac just to browse internet, with some poor mobile GPU and 1440p resolution, when that GPU has problems even running games at 1080p.
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+1
IMO Apple products are overpriced. For gaming, mac is a no no. But we all must realized that gigapudding was being sarcastic.
My friend has a $1200 macbook, and I have a $400 Windows laptop. And in games i get 2X better performance then him.
Though sometimes you don't have an option. For instance, the dev tools to code Apple apps are unfortunately ONLY of Mac's ( though one can build a hackintosh.
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If you're running on a budget definitely go AMD. Much better bang for your buck, could save some good money. The 270X GPU can handle any game with flying colors and is affordable. (280 series is even better if you can afford it) You can get a 270X for $100 from XFX
a 6 core CPU is all anyone would ever need and you can get a FX-6300 (or better if you can afford it). 3.5 GHz base but overclock capability to 4.3 usually. One monster of a CPU in terms of oveclocking. But higher end FX CPUs can do great without overclocking if you can afford it.
1TB harddrive, say ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard and 8 gigs of RAM DDR3 1600. Could easily only cost $500 depending on where you get the parts. (Unless you go with something higher than what I listed.) This setup will be good for years to come without a doubt. It can get 60 fps on the most demanding games as it is.
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You know why I dislike AMD fanboys?
Btw. I have FX-6300 and it's horrible...
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Hey I was just trying to help, no reason to get hostile.
I have FX-6300 and two 270Xs and I haven't run a single game in less than 120 fps yet. So I thought it'd be helpful to you to know that build with one less graphics card can be affordable and powerful.
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All of em really. Tera, War Thunder, Dragon Age Inquisition. I'm a game hoarder so I've played plenty and they all run flawlessly maxed out.
Why do you seem so hateful that I suggested AMD though? You act like I was insulting you.
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You stated you were aiming at it. I then saw you said you didn't want to go overboard with the price and thought to suggest AMD seeing as you get much more power for your money. I thought it would be helpful to suggest such I thing. I did not realize you had an anti-AMD stigma for whatever reason that would cause you to react so hostile and yell "fanboy" at me for suggesting their parts.
I don't pick sides, I try something and if it works I suggest it to other people. My setup works and can be made much more affordable with a single GPU and I simply thought you might want to know in order to save some money and still give your GF a PC that can run every modern game with 60 fps without issue. I haven't tried Intel/Nvidia parts on a PC so I cannot make suggestions in those brands unfortunately. Apologies though that I tried to help, as it seems to have annoyed you.
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You know that FX -6300 has dropped from minimum reqs a while ago?
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Though If the FX-6300 can run Inquisition with 120 stable fps, then what does how it's listed matter? Performance matters for parts right? Pure fps and stability. Not public opinion.
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Inquisition on PC was the most demanding video game I've ever seen before Dying Light came out. Moreso than Elite Dangerous or any other fantastic looking game I've played. It was even more demanding than Arma 3 but only for launch-week optimization issues.
Note that these games I just mentioned are in my opinion, and the opinion of the communities I game with, the best-looking games in existence. My setup can handle all of them, tried and true. If you think Inquisition isn't demanding though? Then nothing is demanding.
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+1 I agree with everything you said.
BTW MLTV, if you are disspointed by the performance, but then throw another fan on your AMD card and overclock it ).
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Lol and he edited the thread calling AMD "cheap".
I swear Nvidia and intel fanboys are so...illogical.
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and your AMD-scrap has just the most horriffic standards in terms of hardware-quality...
just watch your electricity bills, mine dropped since i changed from amd to intel cpu's for around 20-30% and my performence rose by at least 50%
(had a amd fx 8370 and changed over to an intel i7 3770k since i got it for around 120€ in a sale^^)
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You should have bought an FX 8350 instead. Less consumption, about the same performance.
Although I'm not exactly sure that 25-30 W difference is measurable in electric bill since it is calculated in kilowatthours. Even in Western Europe it is what, 20 Euros difference annually if you run it in server mode? (Although if you run a desktop CPU in server mode, you deserve to pay more.)
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25-30w?
just fully stress out each CPU's limit, amd's keep getting ways beyond their stated 125w (200-250 are more real), since amd only get more performance through using up tons of power, the i7 stays at a max of around 100 (77w stated so just a little above it)
and since my pc is up and i'm working with it around 14-18 hours a day i'm saving around 10-15€/month what makes up the higher priced intels a lot cheaper after around 1-2 years if you calculate everything in^^
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I don't pay electricity bills.
Scrap doesn't run games at 120FPS. You are illogical.
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OP, buying AMD is not buying "fake diamonds" considering per dollar you pay AMD is better than it's opponents.
To make a correct analogy, Nivdia and Intel are fake diamonds that you thought were real diamonds but it turns out you got jipped since per dollar, AMD gives you more.
I usually wouldn't care when fanboys like you insult the brands you hate, but do you have to be so stuck up and pretentious with how you rage? Seriously. If you're buying a computer for a girl you have to be at least 18, stop acting like an uneducated teenager.
You're almost as bad as apple fanboys jesus christ. Pathetic really how someone can put a label they like before quality. That's just illogical and self-detrimental.
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+1.
It's true. When you scrap it all down, AMD will give you the better bang for the buck. Though Nvidia has a TON of fancy features that admittedly AMD does not have like shadowplay, etc. Though it is true I would highly doubt you girlfriend would be using it for things such as that.
I'm pretty sure all what she wants is to...well play games. She isn't a streamer or anything; so save your money.
By the way Resoula, it's best to keep something as such in an objective point of view in order to show facts and not hostility nor agression. )
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I agree. Although that'd invalidate my lifestyle choice of treating people how they treat me. I held back returned hostility until I saw his blatant arrogance in his ignorance of insulting everyone here that did not tell him what he absolutely wanted to hear. Now I will simply treat him as he treats me and everyone here that has shared agreement and what I have said, and see how he enjoys it.
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I've never been able to relate to the pure brand loyalty people some people adopt. From a psychological perspective, I get why they do it, but its just silly.
AMD products give you great value, although NVIDIA and Intel tend to give you greater performance with the increased cost. Personally, I usually go for an AMD setup, because I'm much more of a budget gamer, but I can understand people wanting a more powerful setup and are willing to pay for it.
On a side note, there's absolutely nothing wrong with buying man-made diamonds. In fact, synthetic diamonds are just as pretty (if not moreso), far cheaper, and far more ethical than mined diamonds.
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The AMD equivalent of shadowplay is GVR. And it works on nVidia hardware to boot. (Although the performance degradation is a bit more pronounced there.)
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Well whats the budget?
And what games are gonna be played?
and is it only for gaming?
Is she gonna overclock?
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i builded for an ex a PC with an AMD A10, some asus board, 8 gigs of ran an a 7850 for less of that price, but she already had a monitor case and the basic stuff, i would go for that and a good 400w PSU.
.....she dump me short before that so..... xD
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Just to note, I have my self an FX-8350 + Radeon HD 7950, I scored significantly less points in 3DMark than ppl who had same GPU but with an i5-3570K, which is not cool, now another thing my friend had same CPU and GPU, then he bought a GTX 770 it made games run a lot better, and the point of this is that after he replaced his CPU to an i7-3770, he got like 30fps improvement as he says and also now his games run smoother, fps is more stable doesn't go down that much like it did with the AMD CPU.
My self, I can't complain about my Gaming PC, it runs really good, but next time I build a Gaming PC I will buy an i5 and an Nvidia GPU, because more stable fps with Intel, better drivers and less problems in game optimizations with Nvidia that some games seem to have more often with AMD, also I completely dislike the AMD Gaming Evolved Software powered by Raptor, I never liked Raptor and its just trash, even the recording software has issues like very bad color balance.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mQjjK8 roughly my build. cooler not required bt will make it much quieter for working and give your cpu a better life span. You'll still need a hdd with that and a case a 1 or 2 TB drive is very cheap and should be more than sufficient. Just go sata 3 and make sure the drive doesn't have terrible reviews and you'll be fine. As for the gpu, I purchased mine for $200, and I'm sure you could find it for the same.
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I'm almost afraid to make an "is it pink?" joke :/
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I could make a sandwich joke but people will take it 2srsly.
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What's wrong with pink? If they make pink cases, I want one right f***ing now! >:3
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Oh nothing's wrong with pink (especially in that hair! That looks fkn awesome) but it seems Mr MTLVMPR is kinda touchy at the moment...especially seeing as how he ripped someone's head off for suggesting he buy his missus a Mac...
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I have little tolerance for trolls but pink case is a probability.
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Aww, well thank you! <3
And yeah, I understand why he refuses to get one for the lady (they really are not optimal for gaming), but I do agree he may have went quite a bit overboard.
And I just googled for some pink cases.....fck new games, I want a new case! I wish I had seen these when I built this one before.. :(
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You can get just about anything gaming/computers in pink now I believe...I want a pink PlayStation, personally ;)
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Can't say I blame you! I buy everything I can in pink...or, well, black. They compliment nicely.
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That was my first idea when I saw the title. Just make a regular build and use a pink case.
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So what's your budget? About 3 fiddy?
Could get a "decent" AMD setup for that price but I ain't giving no AMD damned 3 fiddy! Not without a power supply that can power at least a small town! Even then you give them 3 fiddy they'll keep coming back!
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Look no further my friend!
BEHOLD ZE ULTIMATE PARTS GUIDE
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Going to build a gaming PC for my gf and I need help with it...
Make sure to include a big Hard Disk
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http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
you can do 8 i picked 16gb better to have more then not enough as more games i think in the future will need 8gb for best performance
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case
Keep things cool and looks pretty good while doing it
EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
it might be a bit more then you need but remember power supplies over time lose rated power as it is used so i always get more so i feel safe that 5 years from now i will still have the power i need to run the rig,anything less then gold and your throwing money away to electric bills
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Just to make things quieter and maybe a bit of an over clock but not needed but i love mine just because it keeps it cooler and i barely hear it
I am not sure if you needed an OS though you might be able to use the key from the laptop it seemed to work for me since my laptop broke has been using it for like 6 months with no issues.
The hard drive can be changed depending on needs but still a good price and i would split into 1tb partitions and keep os on one and games and such on the other in case windows goes down you will not have a lot to worry about.
20 more bucks and intel will cover any over clocks again not needed but something to think about
http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/purchase-a-plan
though i think for the most part that intel should be fine as seeing how most games for medium-high gaming i have an AMD 6300 still and i can still run most games high to max even on Metro i can manage medium level.i have a 7950 so i think my cpu is more of the bottle neck
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Love how the case looks but the PSU might be a litle overkill atm. (might upgrade later)
The case also seems to be over 100€ so I might choose another one.
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i sometimes forget that not everyone is from where i am lol
and i was guessing on price factor but cool master does make some really good cases for air flow
Full tower cases good ones run around 100 bucks give or take
This is what i use HAF 912 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc912kkn1
video of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7mFfWhERY
They did have a plus version that had a better hard drive cage and looked better but for some reason it is not made anymore lol
i liked it because it fit my 7950 and my hyper 212 plus cooler and it has good air flow and can handle either one 120mm fan or 200mm fan 200mm
not the ugliest case still pretty good design and not cheap or flimsy it weighs around 25 pounds or so lol
EVGA 650 watt version for around 55 bucks
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr 650watt version
either way EVGA has one the better PSU with a fair price
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Hmm... Fair points...
I really like that case and I guess I'll go with it.
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Going to build a gaming PC for my gf and I need help with it...We are aiming at Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU, but at the moment we are going to get only the essential parts for it.So no SSD or $400 GPUs... Only the motherboard, HDD, CPU etc.
Why? Because her laptop(ewww) is dying fast...
TL;DR?I need core parts for medium to high end PC. So the PC must be compatible with some great CPUs.
Size would be full tower.Looking for GA? Look hereI will also reward the most helpful answers with group invite.
I will check this thread in 9 hours...Sleep is for the weak...Now seriously shove that AMD out of this thread!I'm not going to buy cheap stuff for my gf.Buying AMD for me is like buying fake diamonds for 75% from the real deal.I had an AMD GPU in the past and there were nothing but problems. Sure it was cheap but it was still crap.
And I have read from forums that it's still that way. And processors? I have one right now and I want it out from my my computer.
It's really not meant for gaming... It's meant to heat up the house with extra cost....
EDIT. READ BEFORE POSTINGWe are going for i5 4690K later and for now she's going to be stuck with G1840.Case is still open as we need a case. It could be pink, red/black or anything really. She doesn't care that much about it.
Oh and a mobo+PSU and then we are good to go. We have a monitor, KB and mouse already.
THE CORE HAS BEEN ORDERED!
Thanks for your help! I have sent Invites to my GA group so don't be shocked(It has MTL in the name)It will be a little lighter on GAs than I was first planned but you might guess what's draining money...
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