Hillary or Trump?
America (and the world) can only win if an independent candidate wins, because the system is rigged so much noone can really change anything.
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I kinda agree, as long as it's the right independent candidate. Because, the wrong independent candidate could actually make things worse
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This year, more than ever before, is clear how stupid is the voting system in US.
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well, it's a 2-party system, which is only 1 step up from a 1-party system
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Joss Whedon: Well, Julie, I don't think Hillary Clinton is an idiot. I don't think she's a crook, I don't think she's any of the things so many people have said she is. I've watched her career since she became First Lady. She has been incredibly impressive with her knowledge, her ability to work across the aisle, her progressive ideas. She's very moderate, maybe more than me, we disagree about some things, but she is whip-smart and the thing that I'm not hearing from anybody -- she has thrown herself on the barbed wire. For thirty years people have been ragging on her, and a lot of it has to do with a smear campaign, and a lot of it has to do with misogyny. She is doing what no other woman has done, and she's going to take all of the heat for that. And then other women are going to be able to do that and not go through a lifetime of being pilloried and called an idiot for absolutely no reason. She has thrown herself on the wire so that others can go on behind her; and that's whom she's thinking about, she's thinking about the people behind her. Does she want to be president? Yes. Does that mean she's ambitious? Yes. Has anybody ever become president without being ambitious? No. That's just the fact of it. And that's fine -- as long as she gets the job done for the right reasons, which I believe she is. So I'm not ready to say they're a couple of idiots. I'm ready to say that she's a qualified candidate and one that I admire enormously, for what she's done and for what she's put up with, and he is a bag of orange hate-wind.
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the state of affairs is maddening - but no worries there, WW3 is going to "fix" it -
and bobble-head-puppet Hillary would be the choice to get there sooner
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by being the ruthless shill she's already proven to be and certainly continuing,
while likely speeding up the jolly course of planned warfare
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/hillarys-huge-libya-disaster-16600
http://newobserveronline.com/clinton-destroy-syria-israel/
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-syria-war-plans/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/01/clin-m01.html
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/
https://stream.org/will-next-wikileaks-release-show-hillary-clinton-armed-jihadists/
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-confirms-hillary-sold-weapons-isis-drops-another-bombshell-breaking-news/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7960/wikileaks-hacked-emails-include-hillary-arming-james-barrett
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still can't get how those that define themself anti capitalists, trotskysts (lol), anarchists, social liberists, liberal democrats and crap alike always ends up siding with those that go arm-in-arm with the private finance. you really are a mistery. lady psycho here with that shady foundation grabs money from the worst of the worst the world nowadays has to offer. bush, open society foundation (that means soros), rockefeller, rothschild foundations, monsanto, google, yahoo, apple, bill gates, coca cola company, goldman sachs, bloomberg, mcdonald, nike, and so on. gets donations from lgbt and womens rights and equality related group while taking MILLIONS from the saudi, where gay people gets jailed/tortured and women can't drive nor wear clothes that "shows theyr beauty". the great capital you despite so much sides with her, yet you prise her as the right choice, "the woman", even the lesser evil. she has been dancing in the political circle for more than 30 years, how can one expect to be saved by the same people that brought you to this stage? like wtf people. make yourself an enema of good sense.
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Clinton wants to repeal Citizen's United -- has in fact stated that she'll choose her Supreme Court candidates based on their willingness to repeal it -- so if you want money out of government, she's clearly the best option. Also, the Clinton Foundation "scandals" have been vastly exaggerated.
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The conflict of interest is a moot point. Bill Clinton has stated the foundation will stop accepting foreign or corporate donations should Hillary Clinton be elected president, and he himself will step down from its board.
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so google, yahoo, apple are the worst of the worst the world nowadays has to offer?
Interesting....
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as companies worth billions, they are under an anti capitalistic point of view.
besides, there are open disputes regarding child labourers in some of the apple asian factories (same with nike). and google. is a piece of that great mosaic that social engineering is, also with youtube censorship of "non compliant" content. even facebook at it with its partnership with the israeli government to censor anti israeli content.
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I have no idea what this means
as companies worth billions, they are under an anti capitalistic point of view.
gotta love how you immediately manage to bring israel into it, though. kudos on that one
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might have misspelled that. as an anti capitalist you should be against any form or shape it can have, both in practice and in theory. not like your random neomarxist radical chic with the last iphone model with an el che cover
would you deny that? havn't discussed the matter anyway. i got suspended from facebook three times now. write down some key words in a post - shoah, holocaust, jew, hitler, nazism - it will become a special observed. also here every revisionism attempt, even in good faith, can get you in jail for six years with a fine of dozens of euros on your head. talking about other genocide is fine toh. take your own conclusions.
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personally, I believe some capitalism is good, but unbridled capitalism is bad. same with socialism.
Google and Facebook and Apple have changed the world. Whether it's for the worse or for the better is debatable, but I don't think there was anything evil about the change. They haven't acted particularly bad, at least compared to many other companies, but give them time and they might rise to the occasion
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problem is they already at it. but yeah, can't disagree with that
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oh, and I understand you're a holocaust denier and an anti-semite who blames jews for everything. that's ok, everyone's entitled to an opinion
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and i understand that you understand shit. try even to criticize the israeli behavior in the middle east and you automatically become an antisemite holocaust-denier hitler lover, because logic is an opinion. soo predictable, i'm disappoint.
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even lesser = The Flying Spaghetti Monster for President!
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If you combine Hillary with Trump you get hump!
Also Hillary is addressed by her first name but Donald by his last name.
I have nothing useful to add, my guess is Trump will win just because no one likes Hillary, even though he's a terrible choice.
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which is funny. during the debate he called her madam secretary, and she called him donald.
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I think Hillary is one of the few people who calls him by his first name most of the time. Not sure why Donald calls her madam secretary, though it always sounds mockingly.
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hmmm.... turd sandwich or the giant douche`? hmmmm
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Who cares about Trump or Hillary, did anyone catch the SNL special skit on the Presidential debate last night? It was hilarious! At one point they made a joke about Trump admitting tax fraud and Hillary admitting leaking sensitive documents in front of everyone.
Wh-what do you mean it wasn't a skit?
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Would it even matter?
Politicians are known for talking big during the campaign, but do nothing from it while they have the position. So does it make a difference of who does nothing as a president?
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If the Benghazi Butcher wins the US will become a totalitarian 1 party system in the future, with amnesty to illegal aliens and demographics being forcibly changed to suit an agenda. A bought and paid for globalist puppet, or an American who is willing to put America first (shocking concept i know, after this degrading 8 year long apology tour we've been on) Trump has 0 political experience, the fact that he is leading against a Washington veteran speaks volumes that the American people have had enough of failed leftist policies, and are tired of being spoken down to.
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Who Cares?! :D
the next Commander In Chief has alrdy been elected!
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This is like asking if you prefer death by having your eyes slowly drilled out, and drilled into your brain or by having your fingers cut off and bleeding to death. Both are horrific and it is hard to really know which is worse.
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Trump. I'm not from the USA, but I want to see the world BURN!
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I couldn't find an actual poll.
Here's the new and updated poll:
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/IFwjV/the-final-poll-trump-hillary-jill-stein-gary-johnson-other
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