Has anyone ever experienced members not at least saying thank you when applying for a giveaway
No, everyone who uses this site is awesome! (minus the people from my blacklist).
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Has anyone ever experienced members not at least saying thank you when applying for a giveaway
Well, I don't expect anyone to comment on my GAs, neither do I comment, unless I have something to say. And, no, spamming "thanks" in GAs is not significative, in my opinion, if you do it mechanically everytime.
And here's your "experienced" ungrateful member: http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/TnpEV/tomar-no-cu-steamgifts
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Oh thanks for that. Blacklisted and reported (:
PS: Sou Brasileira também. | I'm Brazilian too.
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Yeah, 1 dude stole 2 games from me and claimed that they "don't work". I refused to give him 3rd.
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I rarely comment when entering a giveaway, tbh I can't be too bothered to comment on every giveaway when I enter dozens. I do always comment if I happen to win one, which may seem obvious but none of my giveaways have ever received such a comment.
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writing a comment takes few seconds... writing dozen of comments? what is it? 1-2 minutes? so you say you cannot spare 10 seconds for a person who pays his own hard earned cash for your chance to get a free game? awesome... -.-
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10 secs? for every 1,000 entries that's 3 hours
I personally don't mind as long as the person who wins displays gratitude, which rarely happens. I don't make giveaways for recognition, I don't need people thanking me for it, since most also do giveaways themselves it's more of an exchange of gifts. I assume that a person who enters a giveaway is grateful for it, since the opposite is absurd. So no, I don't see any problem in not writing thanks for each and every single giveaway, for me an entrance is a "thank you" just by itself.
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but you won't enter 1000 GAs in one day. Maybe in a month - which will mean that you lose whole 5 minutes per day - really horrible indeed...
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I think I've made myself clear and don't see the need for that comment, nor do I see why it should be such a humongous issue.
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you made yourself clear - does it indicate that by default I must agree with you then? No it does not, especially as I made myself clear as well. And never did I say it's a humongous issue either.
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good, I might have gotten the wrong impression then
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I had a few winners that I never heard anything from (marked received without a word). Not when entering and not after receiving game. All of them came from public GAs or forum (private) GAs, people are usually nice in small groups and whitelist GAs.
But I also had a few who came back to me later to tell me they had fun with the game they won. Makes me happy to know it really gave someone a moment of fun, lightens the weight of the a*sholes I was talking about :)
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Happened to me a lot of times as well. I don't even expect the participants to write "thanks" (I'd rather they don't, anyway) but I definitely do appreciate a "thank you" after they have received the game.. oh well...
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I wouldn't constitute people saying thanks when entering a giveaway ungrateful. Especially if you use the forums regularly, it's actually kind of annoying having the inbox spam, I personally prefer people to say nothing. The winner can send me their thanks if they wish, but if a giveaway has ~500 entries, I don't expect every single person who only has a 0.2% chance to win to thank me.
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well, you can always tell in the description "Please don't poist thanks, I'm a forum regular and I don't wan't unneccessary spam" - problem solved :>
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More than half of the people who post generic "thanks" messages are automated from scripts when they enter the giveaway without even opening the page, most of them don't even know the giveaway has a description. I've done it a few times and it really didn't make much of a difference, it just made other people start asking me why I don't want people to say thanks.
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exactly - so when you put such a description legit users will not post "thanks :>", people who use bots or scripts and ones who don't read description will post it and you can then blacklist them :D:
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Ich. In the long run it sort of would, but I'm also against using the blacklist for such minor offences. I really shouldn't be because those scripts are annoying as hell, but some of them actually think they're being grateful for some god forsaken reason. There's nothing commendable about automated thanks messages, but bless their cotton socks, they're trying. Catch 22 I guess.
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well, I guess it depends on person to person basis ;) I personally have no mercy if someone cannot be bothered to even read GA description. Especially as these may contain important info, like "This game will not activate in Germany" (for anything Germany-censored), or "Enter this bundle only if you have 50% or less games from it" etc. People don't read such a descriptions, end up winning games, Creator has to reroll, wasting his time, support's time and all this because entrant couldn't be bothered with spending 5 seconds to read GA description.
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Well to be fair it's against the rules to give away games that have restrictions like Germany activation. If the winner is from Germany than it's entirely the giveaway creator's fault for not following the rules and they will get a not-received. I know it sucks but that's the rules according to support. That said, I've given away a few games like that before I understood the rules and I'm glad I got lucky with my winners. I'm very cautious now.
On topic, It definitely bothers me that some people don't read the description, but I'll never have rules on commenting. I do get sad about how many people don't thank when they win. We actually had that discussion recently in a group. I surprised that common courtesy is so lost these days.
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Actually Germany is exclusion of this rule - because even ROW (aka not restricted) games cannot be activated in Germany because of their censorship laws. As long as your gift/key you're giving away is ROW (not restricted) it's up to German users not to enter this GA.
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Interesting, I didn't know that - Thanks. Well I think my previous giveaways included some other countries like Japan.
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General rule is: If a GA is ROW (rest of the world, region free) but it cannot be activated in X country due to it's law it's not your problem. If your GA copy has restrictions like "can be activated only in XYZ" or "cannot be activated in XYZ" because of publisher restrictions - it's your problem and you should restrict it to areas avaiable.
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Thusfar no ungrateful members i had encountered a few not instantly adding the game into their list but added to their inventory only after i hinted i noticed i didnt see it in their list it got added :)
All the winners of my giveaways thanked me thusfar though
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No. I just send the gift via email. I'm not interested what the winner thinks.
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yes :s
One russian who won my gift not only didn't say "thanks", but I also had to ask him many, many times to mark my giveaway as received (it took me like the whole week writting to him daily via steam chat). That was my the worst experience on this site :/
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Next time, contact support. There's a separate section for that ("Request Recieved Feedback"). A screenshot of steam chat/email/key sent on SG + the game on his account and it should be done. Maybe it won't be so quick, but definitly quicker than a week.
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Oh, didn't even know about such possibility, it was nightmare... he was writting to me when I asked him, just didn't want to mark it...
Thanks for info :p
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Hmmmnope, I can't remember any. I guess I'm lucky. It also helps that I only create invite-only giveaways for the forum...
The only problem I have is people who assume that invite-only giveaways mean that I only create giveaways for my friends, or people I know or whatever, and that because they aren't public giveaways, they shouldn't count as giveaways... :(
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yeah, know the pain. I've made way over 200 private GAs most of which were forum puzzles (from times when I was very active into puzzle making) or event GAs, as my puzzles tended to be hard and often ending with less than 10 entries I'd constantly got accused of making these GAs and sharing them with friends just to boost my CV...
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So even when you are handing things for free at the "price" of a tiny effort, people still complain. Geez.
Imagine if you were charging? I bet they wouldn't complain half as much.
The more you give, the more people demand of you.
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indeed - lately I was added by a certain someone (quite a good contributor) to be informed I'm a leech creating only group GAs and thus he's blacklisting me. Funny fact - all my public GAs + and puzzle/event ones are almost equal to ALL GAs he's made - including his group ones and private ones. When I tried to reply to him I found out I've been blocked ;p
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So this is pretty much a nest of vipers, I see. As much as the community has great members, it saddens me to know that there are (pardon me) downright jerks like that who will blacklist you simply due to your way of doing things. Worse of all is his hypocrisy - which I won't even comment on.
On a side note: Do you still do puzzle GAs? I love solving those :D
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I don't, as nowadays I have much less free time and good and hard puzzle require a lot of time to prepare. And I don't want to make weak/easy puzzles ;p
But if you enjoy puzzles maybe you'll find one of my last puzzle legacies before retirement helpful: http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/TLR8m/zelgh-magic-guide-to-basic-sg-puzzling-update-june-2015 :>
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How nice! Thank you a bunch for that, I'll solve it as soon as I have some spare time. (:
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it's not for solving ;) it's a guide covering most of the common used methods in SG Puzzles ;) So it's for reading not solving ;)
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stares Oh. Still useful, though! I was trying to solve a very hard puzzle the other day. And I see you've got a whole bunch of Steganography info on that post. That'll certainly come in handy (:
Thanks.
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I say only thanks you if I win a giveaway or when I have something to say (per request or because I want to answer a question or for another reason)..
Besides, being myself a giver, I hate being spammed with a ton of thank you. So, I don't do that to others. Doesn't mean I'm not grateful for the giveaway. Doesn't mean that I'm not respectful. And when I win and someone delivers, guess what? Whitelisted!
True, I don't say "dont post thank you" because people will do it regardless. Besides, I don't blacklist for that. I'm letting them do it because hey, it's their right to do it,
I largerly prefer when someone say thanks in a creative manner or after they won a giveaway. I always smile at that. I really smile at that. If they don't, whether by mail after sending the link, on steam after chatting with them or here on SG, I don't care.
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ohh.., I guess I will stop apamming you then, sorry ;p (added tag not to comment ;p)
(also also - if you did say "dont post thank you" I wouldn't and I guess a lot of other users would as well ;p especially higher level ones who tend to read descriptions ;p)
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Great point about whitelisting those who created the giveaways I won (2 so far). I just did that...
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Yeah a guy whom I won't name obviously, acted grateful at first and asked for my real address under guise of sending me "something cool" so well I'm a dumbass and gave it to him... well three weeks later I get this box in the mail so I run home and rip it open - which was a mistake looking back at it - because it was full of live ladybugs... that was the day I learned you can buy "4500 live ladybugs" on Amazon.
Had to spend my own $$$ to buy "10 live toads" to get rid of the ladybugs and then illegally import a raccoon to get me rid of the slippery toads. Me and the raccoon are now best bros though so I guess I won in the end.
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Dunno if dead serious or just joking...
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This is too funny to be true, also I can't believe if you say that you didn't take pics of those events
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That was seriously classic! Thanks for the chuckle :-)
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Lvl 2, that's like giving away a few bundles or some non-bundled games....
Yeah you're an awful person by creating a GA with such a requirement....
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I know, right. ;)
Was for some rpgmaker game. Always wondered if the guy wanted it so much why he didn't just go buy it.
Thanks for reminding me about that creepy picture. If the original wasn't bad enough, they had to go and make a gif of it. x_x
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That's one of the milder ones. Most comments of that nature that I've seen have been far more harsh on the gift giver and/or the people who are allowed to enter the GA.
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Yeah true its pretty mild. Its not the only comment I've had though it was the most memorable.
Also had that one guy leak my private GAs. _ That was a big what the...
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Well it's someone with an anime avatar, I'm not surprised:P Gets blacklisted by thousands of users
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What is the difference between an avatar including a japanese style drawing and an avatar including 2 medieval guys giving fist bumps?
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"japanese style drawing"....
anime =/= Japanese culture...
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Can you tell me were exactly I mentioned that anime=japanese culture please? Because if that is what you construed from that, well maybe I need to rephrase it.
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Khazadson said ".. anime avatar.." then you said " .. an avatar including a japanese style drawing.." --> according to you, anime drawings = Japanese style in drawing.
And what I meant by "culture" is to mock how many anime lovers view anime as a true picture of Japan and its culture.
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Well, I understand your INTERPRETATION of my words and I agree that its pretty ignorant to picture a whole culture with just one aspect, anime in this case. It just takes a few books and documentary to get a more real approach to the Japanese culture.
I didn't meant that. Now lets take a look of what happens when you Google "japanese style drawing" According to some sources you can get from that search; there are quite a few japanese styles. Now, when you go deep into that search, you can also notice that those styles are used when drawing manga/anime.
I hope that clarifies my intentions when I said japanese style drawing". My words sure need a rephrase if I need to explain all of this...
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There's no need to rephrase anything.
I was just saying my opinion about anime.
Good that we agree on anime =/= Japanese culture.
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Heh, well besides the fact I was joking (that's what the :P means after all) my avatar is from a webcomic that takes its inspiration from history, the fantastic Hark, a Vagrant! as drawn by the witty and talented Kate Beaton. I strongly urge you to check it out. I tend to find that most people who appreciate it have much in common with me.
Also I agree with the other person who replied to you:Anime and Japanese style drawings are vastly different to me.If I think of the latter I picture the classic woodblock prints from the early Edo-period, if anything:).
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Sorry man, I didn't paid attention to the :P thing that obviously was implying a joke. I have checked some Kate Beaton works and they are pretty good, thanks for the recommendation
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It's all well. Yes, she's awesome, brilliant, and funny.
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well now I've felt offended :(
no blacklist, bu still not fun thing to hear from someone you considered good community member :(
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You're clever enough to know better when someone posts ":P" following a statement, it means it's in jest:)
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I remember seeing some of this shit on one of SleepyCat's giveaways a while back. Can't remember the name of the game, but there was a few people bitching about the level requirements. The amount of entitlement I've seen here is beyond absurd. No one owes us anything, especially something as non-essential as a game.
Shit's a trip.
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I've had an experience with someone complaining about my level 1 puzzle GA, so I linked them a 4c DLC they could give away (quick, you've only got 4 days!!) If anything it turned about to be a bit of fun because they didn't get angry or annoyed, they just kinda explained the situation they were in. Whenever I've had someone initially appear hostile (like that) they've always backed away as soon as they could (as I like to do too), which makes you feel silly for getting a bit worked up over nothing. I think some also get worried about being blacklisted for such a small grievance (I get like that too sometimes)
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Personally in public giveaways I have posted things such as "No replies please". On the other hand,it definitely irritates me when I give games (especially non-bundle stuff)to a group, my whitelist, or a combination thereof, and people clearly didn't even take the time to read the description because usually I ask them to post something instead of a generic thanks.Still, a generic thanks in those situations is better than nothing.
It's really hard to care about giving games away once people stop seeming grateful.
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Personally I never say any kind of thanks when just entering giveaway - it would just be spam. Unless your game is something ultra rare I dont feel any more gratitude to you then to any other active (=creating some giveaways) member of steamgifts. For the same reason I prefer people not to say thanks in my giveaways, but I wont go so far as to blacklist them for doing so.
On the other hand if I win your giveaway you will receive my thanks, either as comment or in chat/email depending on the way the game will be delivered. At this point I received something specifically from you, so my gratitude is "targeted".
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Yes... twice.
The first I added on steam to send the gift. I added him, sent him the gift, then he immediately removed me without ever communicating.
The second commented "where is my key?" within 1 hour of the giveaway ending.
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the majority of people i've given gifts to have been perfectly nice! the first person to end up on my blacklist, however... when i sent them the gift, their response was "oh, i thought it was a giveaway for [different game in series]". they didn't even activate it. :\
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hope you reported their ass for not activating at least ;)
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i actually didn't at the time because i was fairly new to the site and wasn't really sure what to do about it, and then as time went on i just thought, eh, what's the point. though now that i've had another look and seen that it wasn't at all an isolated case...!
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then do so now :> Such a rulebreaking doesn't have expiration time - even if it was months ago if he hasn't been suspended for it till now he will be ;) Also check if he has some other non-activations (you can use http://www.sgtools.tk/activation for it ) since then, cause multiple offences = longer time out.
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yeah, that's how i noticed the other non-activations; i reported them right before posting that. ;D
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Well lots of them! :D
The more you will give the more you will experience unless you are giving in a closed group or between friends!
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I try to comment in every giveaway I enter. Sometimes it's just a generic variation on "Thanks!", sometimes I'll add a bit more. (Depends on my mood, how much I want the game, if the giveaway creator has asked a specific question in the description, and how much in a hurry I'm in. I do skip on the comments from time to time, mostly on the huge giveaways (50+ keys) not to add to much to the inbox spam, or on the obvious regifts (mostly from these previously mentioned GAs). If I win something, I make sure to thank the gifter for his gift. Either directly on Steam or on the giveaway page.
I don't expect everyone who enter my giveaways to thank me. There are those who see this as spam so they definitely won't be commenting. You also get a better comment/entries ratio in private & group giveaways because the people joining are more involved in the community side of SG. Most of my winners have thanked me, but I don't take offense if they don't. (Some people aren't even aware that you can go back to the giveaway page to thank the gifter, so hen they get an automated key, they just mark it as received and move on.) I will only blacklist those who don't add the game to their libraries and/or try to regift them. So far I've only noticed one of my winners trying to trade his game away.
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283 Gifts sent and only 1 trying to trade? God, you're a lucky one ;p Before I've hit 300 sent I've altready sent almost two dozens of reports for my winners....
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Created my first GA a few days ago. The guy who won, didn't say anything to me, didn't mark the key as received, but has activated the game immediately. Welp, I guess I'll have to wait 2 more days before I can send a ticket to the support. :(
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I feel sorry for you :( Please don't take this one case to look bad at whole community - most of us are onot like this ;) For future reference you may try to put some limitations on your GAs - like make them forum only or level restricted. Most of such a rule-breakers don't bother with community or giving away themselves ;)
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Just wondering why your complaining. You have entered 91 giveaways and have 16 comments. That means you haven't thanked the creator of every giveaway you've entered. So you don't really have a right to complain!
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If you'd read through comments in this topic you'd find out there are much greater examples of ungratefullness than not posting Thanks! on every GA you enter.
I personally do thank on each GA I enter (until description ask otherwise), but I don't find people who don't ungratefu;l. But there are people who are really really ungratteful....
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but OP never stated what he meant by being ungrateful ;) So how can you know that's what he's been complaining about ;)
It could be as well for example winner of his Postal GA PMing him "why do you even bother giving away so old game nobody wants"? ;p
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ohh sorry then, missed his comment as it only had 1 reply. In this case you are right, it is hypocritical.
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Actually I didn't even notice that comment. In that case I totally stand by what I said in the first place!
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Uhh I think I may have actually misinterpreted what the OP meant. I think he just means ungratefullness in general so you can ignore me :P
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Yeah I know that and i've seen some very bad examples of the way people act on giveaways. The way I read the post it seemed like he was complaining about people not commenting thanks on every giveaway they enter. I was just making a point.
Actually reading it again though i think I may have misinterpreted that.
I personally don't comment thanks on every giveaway I enter because i feel it spams the giveaway creator. But if theres a special question or something in the description I do that. And I am extremely grateful whenever I win a giveaway from someone. Like yours that I won the other day. Thanks again btw :)
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No need to thank me again ;) And I totally get that some people don't want to comment - everyone has a different perspective. I for example always comment unless Description say not to :> But neither do I require ppl to comment on my GAs (unless I specifically say so in my description) ;)
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People get mad if you say thanks in the comments, people get mad if you don't say thanks in the comments. What are we supposed to do? I send a direct message of thanks (either by email or through Steam) if I win.
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I received the last game I won via steamgifts and the comment section of the giveaway creator wasn't public. I thought it'd be kinda lame to add a guy just to say thank you and delete him after, so I ended up just marking the giveaway received and not showing any gratitude to the giveaway creator (well, except thanking him when i entered the giveaway :D).
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you can always thank again in GA comments for receiving it - he will get a notification even for ended GA :>
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Great solution, thanks!
Now I just have to talk to someone about how I accidently killed three puppies with a bone i ripped off from their mother's chest and i'll be able to sleep again. :3
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Yeah as zelphadis said. This is what I do when I win a giveaway and the person sends it through steamgifts. Its a lot less personal but its the only real way to do it!
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A few days ago I won a GA and received the key in email. I decided to say thanks on the GA page rather than by replying to the email. Would you consider it to be impolite? This is what I wrote:
"Thanks man, I appreciate it! Marked as Received of course :-)"
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I think that would be a normal response. Personally I don't like replying to the emails either. I think commenting on the GA is fine.
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I'm going to ask here a question, because I don't want to start a new thread and it's maybe a little bit on topic.
What do you guys do when you send the key to the winner and he claims that the key is a duplicate or it's not possible to active it in his country, even if it's ROW? Getting an extra key from seller is impossible without any proof and can I really trust some guy from the internet and the screenshot he can easily manipulate? The games weren't from G2A, Kinguin or other keyshop with unkown key origins, but from shops I've bought hundreds of games for myself and never had any problems.
I don't want to accuse anyone, I'm just curious about all this situation.
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First of all it depends on who claims it ;) If it's low level, no GAs created, even worse - non activation history - I will act differently than if it's well known contributor, person I know from SG community or group friend. Anyway - of you bought a key from a legit store good thing to do in such a case is to request new key and revoke of the old key - I know Humble does it as well as Indie Gala (up to 60 days).
If you're just buying a key it's also good idea to make screenshots with timestamp - it can help you with support.
Sadly as Steam has no ways to check key history in such a cases it's usually word against word and it's Support to judge who is right. But of for example they will see that he claimed that key was region locked but it's in fact ROW (all you have to do is to try to activate used key on account who already has a game) thjey will permabann his ass for attempted smcam. But again - you have to screencap your conversation with him to prove he wanted another key and claimed this one to be region locked).
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