I find recently that I am more moved and inspired by music without lyrics and/or vocals.
While I do enjoy most genres, they most of the time just don't evoke the same feelings that other music does for me.
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Music without lyrics is analogous to literature without pictures. I used to listen to Mannheim Steamroller for that reason.
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Good music still exists. You just have to look beyond the mainstream stuff and sometimes even step out of your comfort zone to find it.
Here's some good music from this decade:
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The idea behind this thread was not to complain about a lack of good music. Rather, it was to draw attention to those albums which are unconventional and run counter to the accepted tenets of the music industry.
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Good to see another Anathema fan, but I really don't like Distant Satellites too much. Its far too similar to Weather Systems and could be mixed without anyone noticing.
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Aha! So I'm not the only one listening to Nadja here. Can't wait to see them live this September.
On that note, I'm fairly surprised noone mentioned Swans, Neurosis or freaking Radiohead yet...
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I was going to mention Neurosis then deleted my comment before posting, re-wrote a comment with some more recent (2000 and later) material... then deleted that too. Radiohead seemed too obvious. So, in an attempt to belatedly add something to this thread, I shall bring up:
It took years for anyone to even try and replicate elements of their sound on that album; Deathspell Omega are worthy of a mention for successfully drawing influence and moulding it into their own twisted sound.
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A whole album of cosy Christmas songs by Sufjan Stevens! - does it get any better than this?
Tenhi's Maaaet - whilst still brilliant, Tenhi may be a long way from approaching this level of condensed beauty.
Penitent's The Beauty of Pain has long been a guilty pleasure of mine. Simplistic, but so magnetic.
A Rebours by Magnus Sundström was almost as cinematographic as it was ambitious.
No, they definitely don't make albums like these any more.
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FM - Black Noise (RIP Nash the Slash, my Steam avatar...) ("One O' Clock Tomorrow" from the album )
Todd Rundgren - Initiation ("A Treatise On Cosmic Fire" from the album...hope you have a half-hour to spare! )
This thread has a lot of the artists and music I could get into. I'm a huge fan of progressive rock, and it saddens me that the current generation views such low-talent hacks as Bieber and Beyonce as being "superior" to real artists like many of the prog bands being shared here.
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While I will acknowledge that Beyonce can sing, I still staggered as to how Beiber managed to fool anyone into believing he has actual talent. Sadly, it seems he's also managed to fool himself, as well.
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Probably the best album ever written, IMO. Its just a shame that with Hesitation Marks, NIN has jumped the shark.
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True, but most of Fleetwood Mac's music seems pretty conventional to me. I picked "Rumors" because the of its unusual subject matter while still remaining an excellent album.
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Actually, 70's folk made a full comeback a few years back, so there's plenty of new music that sounds like CSNY and Pink Floyd, to a certain extent.
To name a few: Fleet Foxes, Midlake, Band of Horses, The Low Anthem, First Aid Kit, The Civil Wars, Ray LaMontagne, Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros, Other Lives, Jonathan Wilson, Bill Callahan
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The purpose of this thread was not to focus on 70's folk music, nor was it to question the popularity (or lack thereof) of any particular style of music. You'll notice I started with three different styles of music. The purpose of this thread was to discuss "experimental" or "unconventional" albums, albums that would be unlikely to be produced by record companies due to their being so far removed from "mainstream music."
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Two weeks ago I've found Pink Floyd, more specific "Wish you were here" and I loved it. I started to hear more songs from then and I was just blowing my mind.
After that I started wondering why there are no more bands like that. I read the lyrics and it's pure poetry. Just loved it.
People with my age(17yo) usually can't stand songs like that, which kinda makes me sad. More people should at least get the points of view and ideals behind these songs.
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There's a lot of Pink Floyd material for you to become familiar with, so you have that to look forward to. Their later stuff wasn't quite up to the same quality as before, however.
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I feel progressive metal is a good genre to fit this criteria (I believe that is the mostly genre I'm going with anyway, I'm pretty lost when it comes to classifying music in such sub-genres). In any case, my tastes tend towards those artusts that sound similar to Tool (or just generally have fairly heavy instrumentation, with mostly clean vocals, some surreal and or dark undertones a bonus), which would include:
Psychotic Waltz for some older stuff with the singer from Deadsoul Tribe
And maybe throw some God Is An Astronaut in there as some nice instrumental stuff.
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Emilie Autumn - Fight Like a Girl (Seriously front to back I love this album. The title track becomes it's weakest link in the end.)
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Try considering the fact that there's always a favoured music genre for each generation.
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If you'd read the thread, you would have noticed that we've covered many different genres, thus far, and intend to cover more. In light of this, your comment seems very odd and out of place.
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I completely understand that, but you were talking about 'unconventional albums that would not be made today' and that could be a wide variety of types of music, just because other types of music have 'taken the stand' in this generation.
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M83 - Hurry Up, We're Dreaming
Not even going to list individual songs, just give in to this. You won't be disappointed. How these guys got so mainstream lately is way beyond me, but it's a sign that the music industry is not entirely broken.
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nice dad rock thread!!!
i like some dad rock, too
like rush, and I used to like king crimson but that just drains the life out of me and makes me feel old
anyway, there is still tons of unconventional music other there in this era, here are some examples
Papadosio,
Devin Townsend,
Mastodon,
Have A Nice Life,
Aesop Rock
just a few examples of "unconventional" music that have unique properties to them, the internet age has allowed even more accessibility to the public and new technology such as multi-track and all that shit Fripp started and got improved on just makes music possibility even more so "out there" never is there an age where no musician is there to challenge the norms, maybe you just need to find s'more new artists, hmm? I understand, yes, a lot of radio music is for mindless sheep, that is true, but it's not very fair to say all this new music is bad, catch my drift, yeah? I think both old and new music is great, everyone's taste is different but you can always satisfy that with a Fleetwood Mac album as much as the guy next to you is more of a Beatles fan, ya dig? Some prefer "proper" baroque music, some are more into that ambient stuff, edm junkies, drum & bass heads, metal heads, there's always some artist out there pushing the pin further, drone music like Sunn O))) might disgust one person, and might expand the next, some find Metallica boring, some find them the greatest metal band in the world, some like Boris for their experimental metal, others prefer Dog Fashion Disco. Music has all but devolved, and I hope you're able to see that!!
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Umm... This is not a "dad rock thread." Please read what has been written thus far and try to understand what we're discussing. I think you will find it of benefit.
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Oh. lol
Yeah, sarcasm is difficult to pull off in writing. )
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Here's some unconventional music with lyrics poetic and/or potentially too deep and full of culture and allusion for most audiences to understand. Definitely would not get produced in the 21st Century!
Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
Miles Benjamin Anthony Robinson - Buriedfed (from his self-titled, which I can't find a full playlist for)
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I think Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? would be a good fit - unconventional harmonies, melodies, instrumentation, lyrics, and, uh, singing
Everything now is a lot more straightforward and generic
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Well, they had the balls to make a concept album, and put a 23 minute song on it:
Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons
I personally compare it to a "Dark Side of the Moon" level of awesomeness and worth listening to every last millisecond of it.
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That album actually isn't really a concept album, just an EP (in name due to said song's length, the rest of the disc being filled with live covers/medleys)
Epic song though, and later on they did have the balls to put out this double disc beauty where the entire second disc is a 42 minute song
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There's something to be said for having "the balls." Most (if not all) of the albums mentioned in this thread would never have been made if the people involved weren't willing to "just do it, anyway."
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If you've not heard them yet, give Death Grips a listen, really good stuff.
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Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
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100% agree with you on this being a problem afflicting all of the Arts. Granted that creativity isn't a talent everyone is born with, but there are some people out there who have it. Unfortunately, creativity and foresight are not traits usually associated with CEO's, so funding is mostly restricted to what is "safe" and what "has worked, before." Hence the reason we keep seeing remakes, series, copies, and spin-offs. P
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Once upon a time, record labels were quite willing to put out unconventional (and sometimes, downright controversial) albums. This was the time of anthems, ballads, and poetic odes. Many of the songs and/or the albums themselves were so far from "conventional" that they were beyond the purview of mainstream music and never became popular on the radio. Others had a good enough sound that they captured the attention of a wider audience, even if that audience couldn't appreciate the depth of most of the songs. This was the era where musicians weren't just performers, they were artists.
This is just a small sampling of some of the music you never hear anymore. I expect that others will add to this list by contributing to the thread. There are, after all, many more examples of "unconventional albums that would probably never get made, today." (There are even a few of these from recent years.) Don't worry if the lyrics don't seem to make sense. You'd have to be well-versed in poetic styles and the culture of the time to get what's being said, but don't let that put you off. Listening to these albums will expand your understanding of what music can be and what it can accomplish. You can enjoy the tunes, now, and explore the depth of meaning in the lyrics once you have the knowledge and experience.
Here, then, is a start to the list.
Crosby, Stills & Nash
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Fleetwood Mac - Rumors
[Edit: I'd like to thank all of you who have contributed. So many good albums listed in this thread, quite a few of which I'd never heard, before.]
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