Sould i upgrade from 6GB to 12GB?
Usually, any upgrade to 4 RAM is a good move and will improve gaming experience. But anything in the range of 6-8 GB is pretty good. Going to 12GB you might not really notice any real difference at all since everything will be maximized. Then, it is just an issue of CPU capability and GPU for graphics. If anything, I would strongly recommend upgrading your GPU. But if the GPU is integrated into the MOBO... then, possibly upgrading to 8GB ram might give you a noticeable improvement.
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more ram is usually needed when your computer starts to take so much that your laptop is starting to lag, rarely for games, some like The Witcher 3 say that they require 8gb ram.
i believe a good option it would be like Luchingador suggests to have 2 sticks of ram from the same manufacturer and same frequency. From what i checked with your laptop i believe that the max frequency that it supports is 1600 and max ram is 16GB.
so id suggest to ask first what frequency that ram you saw has. and getting 2 ideantical ones from that shop
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Minimum requirements for Witcher 3 according to Steam are 6 GB but it was playable on my laptop with 4 GB after it had gotten a few patches (although not at the higher settings).
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It's cool - you were otherwise making good points, I just felt obliged to mention something that from my own experience appeared to be inaccurate.
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With that setup: no. Simple as that. It might improve performance a tiny bit, but that GPU will never be able to run modern AAA games. Also, for games the processor speed is more important as the amount of RAM (especially if you already have over 4GB RAM anyway). You're better off buying a couple of good older / indie games for that 40 bucks.
Basically if you want to play modern AAA games, you'll need to get a new pc and I recommend going for a desktop and not a laptop. While there are decent laptops out there, desktops are usually better (and cheaper) for gaming.
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Isn't GPU memory more important if you really want the numbers? Games that need tons of memory are probably more hamstrung with your 2GB memory GPU than another 8GB RAM.
I love not having to care about needing more memory for the rest of the decade.
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Coincidentally: what the ever-living hell does a phone need 6 GB RAM for? Office computers nowadays are still shipped with 4 GB, and those are used for a little more complex tasks. I mean, I know Android is bad, but surely it cannot be such a terrible memory-hog…
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I know Android is bad, but surely it cannot be such a terrible memory-hog…
Have you ever used one?
They are HUGE memory hogs, because some of the apps that should just quietly await in the background for their turn, actually use a lot of resources, especially if there's an active internet connection (Google apps are especially hungry for memory and bandwidth).
I can't speak about high-end devices, but on low-end ones (under 1GB RAM), the lag is noticeable.
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Yep, used Galaxy phones. I got fed up with them pretty fast, and eventually bought a Lumia 532 dual-SIM variant and put my personal and company SIM card in it, so I can use the phone. It has ONE gigabyte of memory and I've yet to see it slow down even a bit after weeks of constant use before a reboot.
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Your GPU is slightly worse than the one from PS3, which is worse than the one from XBOX 360, so it is got about 17% of XBox One GPU performance. So it will run at most games created for last gen consoles. And they had up to 512 MB RAM. Dedicated PC games usually were indie games (and in most cases they will either run at 60+ fps even now, or won't get anywhere near 30 fps) or high performance games which were too demanding to run on consoles. With only few exceptions like Civilization V.
Also integrated GPU does not have it's own RAM, but it shares it with system memory. In short - the memory speed is the problem, not how much you have it. (At least if we are talking in the 6-12 GB range) So switching to 8 GB Dual-Channel configuration with high speed and low latency will bring bigger improvements than jumping to 12 GB. But bigger improvements means increase by 1 fps instead of 0,5 fps.
Skyrim will probably won't improve at all with 12 GB RAM. Witcher 3 would improve, but it probably won't get close to 10 fps anyway. The same is with GTA V.
Sorry, but with that GPU there is almost nothing what you can do. Modern games are usually made for minimum 800 GFLOPS - 1 TFLOPS GPU's, and Intel 4000 is in 200 GFLOPS range. Also it is missing few hardware features so in real life usage it performs more like 100-150 GFLOPS GeForce/Radeon.
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Changing RAM won't have any noticeable effect. The only thing that would make a difference is changing the GPU (Video Graphics) which you can't do on most laptops.
Also Skyrim is capped at 4GB, you could have a trillion GB RAM (well you can't really :p) and Skyrim would still only be able to use 4GB max.
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Neaa the problem for you is the GPU , I have 16 GB of RAM on my laptop but those are not for games . For gaming you need a good GPU a good CPU and a good HDD or a SDD, 6-8 GB of RAM is enough when you go to 12-16 GB believe me you don't see the difference in games :D
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Ram is not your problem, try adding an SSD for the operating sistem and a few games. Helps with "loading" times, and lag. If your laptop supports another hard-disk slot.
Changeing GPU in a laptop ? I will not get into that.
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IMHO The small increase is not worth the money, as the benefit will be mostly cut down by your Intel HD graphics 4000 card. You may acquire a good and cheap machine with guarantee at sites like amazon (post-leasing). I would wait for new computer. Joined and thank you.
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While adding more RAM won't benefit gaming, if you use your laptop for other things, you could at least swap the 2GB stick with a 4GB one.
Despite the usual warning, getting two identical sticks isn't required at all, although they should have at least the same configuration.
By "configuration", I mean the way the memory chips are placed on the stick, they're either all on one side, or split between the two sides.
You don't even need them to have the same speed, just make sure that the second one is at least as fast as the first, the memory controller would take care of the rest.
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It would eventually increase performance somehow if you:
Also make sure the new memory stick has same speed and timing as the second already installed and voltage supported by your motherboard.
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Okay, this thread is full of uninformed opinions.
Normally, Dual Channel has very little effect on gaming performance for systems with dedicated graphics cards. However, this is not the case with integrated GFX - they benefit greatly from dual-channel memory config:
Benchmarks here:
Overall it's around 20-30% fps increase depending on application.
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The problem is that most motherboards for intel processors (I'm not sure if this is also true for AMD) can dual channel with different RAM chips. If Olivio has 4+2 GB config it will give him 4 GB of RAM working in Dual-Channel mode and 2 GB in single channel. Upgrading to 4+8 GB will give him 8 GB Dual Channel and 4 GB single channel. If the game is built in 32-bits it will use max 4 GB. Of course windows usually uses only dual-channel mode memory, so with 12GB there is greater chance that it will load all assets into Dual-channel part. But there is no guarantee (for example when running a game shortly after closing different memory hungry software, it may still be partially in RAM when the game is loading, so it will put it into first free block)
So again buying 8 GB RAM to expand it to 12 GB will give only slight performance boost, and it will not be enough to run modern games. And getting 4+4 GB will avoid some of the problems with having two memory speeds in computer, which usually means better performance, but it is nowhere near to get modern games running in 30 fps in low settings, not to mention mid-low. I have laptop with the same processor and 8 GB RAM working in Dual Channel. And how it works with modern games? On integrated GPU and lowest graphical settings:
Injustice: Gods Among Us (2013) - below 10 fps.
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter (2014) - 12 fps average.
Alan Wake (2012) - will not run (workaround exists, but I haven't tried it on my laptop)
Just Cause 2 (2010) - 25 fps
Resident Evil 6 (2013) - 15-20 fps
All of them are fully playable (30-60 fps, depending on game) on the same computer after enabling dedicated GPU. Also those games are between 2 and 6 years old. Probably I could get RE6 and JC2 to get to 30 fps with some tweaking in GPU control panel, but it was just easier to enable dedicated card. Also it will be probably impossible with any AAA game released in 2016 to make it run in 30 fps on intel HD 4000.
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http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/HP-Compaq/envy-m4-1050la
Although, your GPU is the main problem, there is very little you can do about it.
If you want to talk laptops however, my Lenovo Y40-80 with an Quad core I7, 2Gb AMD R9 275 it a pretty sweet laptop, and is selling for US$400 less than when I bought mine a year ago. You may be able to afford a decent laptop sooner than you think.
My 3DMark test scored 6300 approximately which is bad compared to desktops, but for a laptop, is respectable.
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I have 4 years with my laptop and can't buy a new one at the moment (maybe in 2-4 years), it works fine and i can play games in low-medium, but i can't play new AAA games, so, the other day i saw in a local store an 8GB ram card at $40 (600 Mex$) my laptop has 6GB of ram (4GB+2GB), so i tought that maybe if i upgrade the 2GB to an 8GB ram, i could play new games in low-medium and improve the old games (like skyrim).
So... will it help in something?
Product Name | m4-1050la
Microprocessor | 2.50GHz 3rd generation Intel Core i5-3210M Processor with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3.10GHz
Memory | 6GB DDR3 SDRAM (2 DIMM)
Memory Slots | 2 user accessible
Video Graphics | Intel HD graphics 4000 with up to 1664MB total graphics memory
Hard Drive | 750GB 5400RPM hard drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Thanks for your help and obligatory GA
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