lol, funny how they think they can kill someone with nenegligence just because he got a free subsciption for something else years earlier.
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Spotify has been asking me to try Premium for free.If Godforbid,I forget to lower the headphone volume while listening to Egypt Central and die........Spotify gets to play a "Disney World/Spring" and dismiss the lawsuit because I agreed to a free trail??
I'm pretty sure the Free Disney+ trial terms referred to the Disney+ platform disputes and not Kill-me-by-allergens dispute.Walt Disney must be rolling in his grave right now...seeing these "professional waiters and staff" destroy his dreams and legacy.
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I doubt Walt Disney is rolling in his grave. He was not all love and roses and wonder about everything. He was a business man, and had a vision, certainly. But he had an eye towards the bottom line, and earning money.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_animators%27_strike
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I agree that he was a businessman but this Death-by-AllergicReaction is a new low,even for corpos like Disney.
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That's insane. This feels like something out of the Onion...
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forced arbitration for a digital streaming platform will not protect Disney from an IRL situation...
no court will accept a TOS with that
strange that this happened though... Disney stuff may be overpriced as hell but from what I have heard they actually take things like allergies and such very seriously.
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no court will accept a TOS with that
Seriously. It's like someone getting run over by a Tesla car not being able to sue because they agreed to arbitration while opening their twitter/X account. Nope.
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I just had to pop in and say those people getting run over by their own vehicle were probably doing something stupid to begin with. Every single anti tesla thing I have read into the people were doing stupid stuff they shouldn't have been doing like hitting the brake and accelerator at the same time and expecting the vehicle to stop. Dumb people and smart cars or smart anything just don't mix. I'm not entirely sure how you can blame the vehicle when the person was clearly doing something wrong whether they understood they were doing something wrong or not. Just my thoughts.
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Well I am not so sure about that. There was a traffic collision here back in December 2021 that left one person dead and 20 injured, 3 of them severely because a taxi driver was not able to activate the brakes on the car which was speeding of its own volition.
Tesla has been extremely cagey and has not provided any evidence that the car "functioned" normally as it was supposed to, which you would expect ofc but they also have not provided a shred of evidence that the driver did anything wrong and that's where I find that a little shady.
I get that they would not share proprietary data to "prove" the car "functioned as expected" but considering Tesla Model 3 collect data on usage, including footage in the car, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't disclose it if they had any evidence the driver was at fault.
The driver himself was an experience taxi driver. He was not intoxicated in any way according to the investigation and he was not charged.
In the past Tesla has leaped joyously on the opportunity to use the collected data to challenge claims that the car was at fault in accidents but not this time, even though the driver has now filed a lawsuit against them. That in itself shows that there is something odd.
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Like I said this is someone hitting the brake while the accelerator is engaged. You do that in any car and it will have a similar effect. The person obviously had auto on while he was eating or playing a game on his phone or some other stupid person thing. There is a very slim chance I am wrong in there but still I am 90% sure the auto drive function was enabled and the dude tried to hit the break which resulted in nothing. I have seen so many videos where some fat moron is on auto playing with their phone or eating and the car runs into something. I have even seen people SLEEPING with auto on or having sex. Believe me man people are stupid and just because he was an "experienced" taxi driver doesn't preclude him from doing something dumb. It's tragic when innocent people die due to some person doing something the wrong way, even unknowingly, but to blame the tool is silly. I don't know if they ever fixed the issues but I'm sure they have. I'm also sure that dumb people will continue to do things they shouldn't like alter Tesla's themselves to find ways to make them to malfunction so they can sue for millions and become overnight celebrities.
Personally I don't care about Tesla beyond the fact that it is a fully electric vehicle company that is doing good because fossil fuels are no bueno. And big oil is far worse than Tesla. I can point you to the BP fiasco in the gulf or any thousands of other disasters far worse than a Tesla failing to stop. When a Tesla fails to stop and sets every oil rig in Kuwait on fire because it's losing a war let me know.
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I can tell you from the video that it's not just a guy hitting the brakes resulting in nothing.
He tried for several meters to stop the car by getting closer to parked cars on the street to slow down the car so if he could have just unengaged the auto system, he would have. If he had been checking his email like other morons did, Tesla would have rushed to show that with footage but they did not, proving that there was something wrong with the car and they don't want to take responsibility for it.
I also don't care about Tesla. Fully electric cars are cool. Cars with dangerous features are not.
Regardless it was just an analogy about Disney+ and Disney parks being two completely different entities.
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All cars have dangerous features, car's themselves are a dangerous feature. Parts of cars fail all the time, there's no shortage of recalls and lawsuits out there. I'm sorry but the Tesla shaming is out of hand especially when fossil fuel vehicles are far worse all around. And yes I drive an ancient one myself but if I had a choice I'd take a Tesla any day. Maybe the one in orbit will survive reentry and land soundly in my yard. Weirder things have happened.
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As I was saying, it really was just an analogy because Twitter/X and Tesla are two different companies and agreeing to the TOS of one doesn't bind you to anything with the other so let's not keep arguing when we agree.
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I'm not arguing and I understand that but my point is still valid. People dumping on Tesla is not cool. Automobiles by their very nature are not safe. When combined with dumb people or just regular people who wig out under pressure they become a disaster. Tens of thousands of people die every year from automobiles and I can assure you Tesla fatalities are negligible on that scale. Until there is an adaptive AI powerful enough to actively scan and react to everything in the environment while monitoring all vehicle systems for signs of possible failure and ordering proper maintenance on a vehicle with redundancies on all critical components there will always be vehicle fatalities. And even in that utopian scenario stupid people will still find a way. I'm only offering my thoughts. Take them how you want them.
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Again, I wasn't dumping on Tesla. I was using it as an example of similar situations that would make no sense
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And again I understand that but you seem to not be reading the last line of every reply. I am just sharing my thoughts. Was just making conversation, not arguing or trying to be difficult. I have noticed 99% of people try to look for conflict in everything but that's not me. I just like to share my opinions. So again I say just sharing my thoughts. Do with them what you will.
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no court will accept a TOS with that
No *reasonable court.
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I dont know what this was about, but I would assume it had something to do with that when Tucker did Fox news his segment wasnt news but an opinion piece.
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sued over pushing false information about covid 19, wearing a mask, and getting the vaccine. knowing full well it was false info
meanwhile they all got the vaccine as soon as possible
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they should have lost the legal right to call it news and it is now entertainment.
they got vaxed as soon they they could well pushing bs openly that got sooo many people killed
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Yeah Disney needs to hire new layers, and new writers. A million dollar is not what it used to be, I know, but sometimes it's worth spending more money on the important things...
She ordered a vegan fritter, scallops, onion rings and a vegan shepherd’s pie, the lawsuit said
Yep. Fritter and onion rings were probably fried in peanut oil. I've seen it happen in disorganized restaurants. Waiter comes and asks "there's nothing in those dishes that can make a person sick, right?", everyone is like "nope, it's all good" but nobody thinks about the dressings and frying oils.
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That is just stupid move... Much more sensible is that they are not the ones operating the restaurant, it just happens to be on their premises.
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That's really what they should have argued. Not to mention trying to dismiss the suit makes it a much bigger story. One that keeps putting a highlight on the fact someone died at a restaurant on their premises, which is not going to see any one eating there any time soon.
I mean look, as someone who has worked in professional kitchens for over 20 years, I get it. It's a juggling act and mistakes happen and they have dire consequences. But for a multi billion company trying to just dismiss it like nothing wrong happened is just horrendous and the wrong move
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I guess Louis Rossmann was right... We're really getting effed.
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I've heard of this a month or so back. And I'm not even in the US. So insane I don't even have a comment.
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how about a comment on this? heres a canon Micky mouse cartoon that aired on disney channel https://i.imgur.com/a1JE9bo.mp4
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cause its for kids....
it says here you want to divorce your wife because shes extremely silly???
no i said shes fucking goofy
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Pretty sure in EU they would be laughed out of the court for something outlandish like this. Any TOS is never above law. IF the employees truly did not take into consideration allergens and gave him food which killed him, it is negligent murder, if not outright murder. You would have to be near braindead to consider signed TOS as grounds to have that dismissed. The restaurant would need to be closed forever and ordered to pay compensation and the owner blacklisted ever from owning another franchise. Disney should pay some good amount as well just for the sake of giving them a lesson of keeping track of who operates on their premises.
TOS can merely save the company from a visitor doing something outright against rules. If this guy would have approached buffet and ignored allergen signs, then obviously it would be his fault. So it baffles me what even is the train of thought for the lawyers of disney. This is probably just a try to game American weird judicial system of being able to win whatever outlandish claim you want if you have enough lawyers and money in your pockets.
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So you can't ever take Disney to court because - they killed your Wife - because you watched a bit of a cartoon months ago?
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My gut instinct is that they know this won't work, but will use it as leverage to get a settlement under the threat of a prolonged legal battle.
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I think the issue is they already tried for a settlement but the widower won't hear it and is determined to sue them and raise the profile of the issue, to force them into action instead of buying people's silence.
They are not doing themselves any favor though. What they should have done is recognize there was a problem, take steps to fix it (like a well publicized staff training program for any restaurant operator to get a license on their parks) and launched an awareness campaign about food allergens.
Instead they are painting themselves as a greedy corporation that is trying to evade responsibility in a perfectly avoidable death.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/business/new-york-doctor-dies-at-disney-world-restaurant-after-staff-confirmed-food-was-allergen-free-lawsuit-alleges/index.html
https://longisland.news12.com/disney-asks-court-to-dismiss-wrongful-death-lawsuit-of-long-island-doctor
what they are trying to do is INSANE!!!!!
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