I couldn't disagree more. Valve have never fucked a game up and they will never outsource the development of the most anticipated game of all time. If Half Life 3 does get made (which I do believe it will), it will be made by Valve to the highest of standards.
Half Life 2 had a strong narrative, and strong level design (two things that Valve are very good at and two things that most open world games neglect). I would like to see a game very similar to Half Life 2 with updated visuals and enhanced gameplay being a focus. Besides, Half Life 2 environments were already open ended with plenty of choices and places to explore. There's no point in completely changing something that's already successful, just build on it.
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What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object?
True, all of Valve's games that I know of have been top notch. But when people expect perfection and demand such flawlessness that the very possibility this game might not happen β just look at some of the replies β there's no way that any developer could meet that demand. Look at Bethesda, they make some of the best games out there, and people rip on them all the time. People rip on Valve less because they love Steam and Steam pretty much saved PC gaming. For all the faults of the Steam platform, Steam DRM solved so many problems. The Steam hype is all deserved. But can Valve develop a game that meets such impossible expectations?
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Bethesda lack the quality of Valve. They try to go too big too fast and serious stability issues are the result. Valve don't need to meet impossible expectations, they just need to stay true to what made Half Life 1&2 so successful and build upon it. Creating an open world game is new territory for Valve. Territory I don't think they would have the same standards with. If Half Life 3 is announced, no matter what expectations people have, I think the majority of people will be overjoyed that it's finally coming.
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John Titor said HL3 was his favorite classic game. Checkmate, unbeliever
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Did he? Is he still around? I remember when that guy first came around, or at least around the time his story started spreading. It was compelling but full of holes. Are you telling me there are people who believe him? Not any intelligent communities I'm sure. Maybe 4chan, possibly Reddit or GameFAQs.
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Good point, if it fails for whatever reason, they don't have a publisher to answer to. I just don't think they can live up to the hype. I mean, a lot of people are seriously upset that I even suggest this. Whatever HL3 is, it will never live up to what these people are expecting.
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You forgot that Valve never released a weak game. Not even mediocre. HL 3 will be great. IF it comes out.
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"valve has never released a weak game"
doesnt matter if it was serious or not, you were still implying every game valve made is perfect, so you just got argumented.... invalidated.....BITCH
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Not weak doesn't mean perfect.
You got "argumented" "invalidated" as well.
"Bitch".
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Nope, covered that in a reply further down (or up if you're not using SG+). ;)
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they already declined hl3.
"The filing has been removed from all databases of the European Union's Office of Harmonization, smashing - yet again - all hopes from fans regarding a (half-)life sign of the continuation of Gordons story."
But good news are a trademark filling for Portal 3 has been acknowledged. But still without any hint of that they are working on it.
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If i were Gabe, i would officially not be able to fit in my chair; when he starts losing weigh, HL3 would be announced.
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I don't know how can HL3 be anything but a disappointment. People are too hyped up and Valve would have to think of something really groundbreaking in terms of basically everything - graphics, gameplay, story, setting etc. HL2 (along with Doom 3) was literally a next gen fps. I'm not sure they can pull it again.
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bitch please, valve is just waiting for gaming to move on from outdated consoles, you can argue with your ps4 and xbox one shit all day but truth is their gonna be outperformed by pc hardware within months, they just refrain from letting the console market hold back their innovation, like every other developer who is losing tons of options because their forced to develope on consoles. the source engine would have never been possible in its current state, on any console, to this day neither the ps3 nor the 360 were able to utilize the source engine's full potential, that said the ports for the consoles were actually genuinely good, compared to most ports to pc that is.
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steam machines arent consoles, their simply developing an os inspired by steam that can run on any hardware that accepts it, like probably the rasperry pi, boxee box etc and possibly android smartphones or jailbroken iphones, but well see about that.
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So you're saying PCs can't beat the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 now (you said it will take months)? They have 8GB of RAM. We can beat that. The GPU (I forget what it is) can be beaten. The CPU is quad core. We have six, eight, and twelve core CPUs. 16 can't be far off.
And you're saying Valve, which owns the largest PC game platform, is being held back by consoles?
Also, while your English is clearly better than my grasp of your primary language, here's a little help on there, they're, and their since it can be confusing. ;)
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ofcourse they wont be able to keep up with sli titans running on 2 i7's, but lets face it, NOTHING can. however the average pc (random 78xx series runnning on a random 4 core bulldozer) will be outperformed by both consoles, you got to account that developing on consoles means developing exclusively for one type of hardware only , developing something for pc means that it has to be able to work with all kinds of different hardware, which basically means that you can optimize the shit out of the consoles architecture, which you cant with pc's because they dont have a fixed architecture. oh yeah, and then theres the framerate fiasco, most games that run on 25 frames are perfectly playable on consoles because of the controller, input lag just isnt as obvious on a controller than it is on mouse and keyboard, so you can (practically) achieve an higher performance on consoles without it actually performing better. and while all of these points sound like major pro's for consoles, they really are just annoying hardware limitations. and yes, EVERY developer is being held back by the console market, to make REAL money you have to release your game for consoles, ofcourse you could make a million on pc's, but thats nothing compared to the 10 million you can make on consoles from all those 8-14 year old shitheads and DUDEBROYOLO idiots, and all these idiots want is an easy pick up and play game, which is why EVERY franchise in the last 5-7 years has been dumbed down as FUCK, to appear to a "broader audience", an audience that doesnt put any effort into gaming neither does it even remotely care about it as much as we do, they in fact ruin it by buying fucking call of duty and fifa every fucking year.
btw thanks for the link, and im very well aware that my english leaves alot of space for improvements, but hey im german, so im obviously working on it ;)
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My PC must be below average: 2-core Phenom II and 6850. I'll go hang my head now. It can run Skyrim (and the other Bethesda games) with everything maxed, so I'm happy about that. Thinking about upgrading to a Haswell i5 and 8-16GB of RAM, but my PC can do all I want now. I'd just be enabling graphics mods on 2-year-plus old games and getting faster video encodes. Wife will let me do it but I get dirty looks, so I'll probably wait. XB1 and PS4 can beat my rig, but they can't play Skyrim, and they can't play Rockband, either.
Anyway, guten tag. I'm about 20% German, following the likely incorrect assumption my parents were equal parts their lineage. But I've had people guess I'm mostly or all German because of my attention to detailβif not necessarily in the OP, in real life matters. Rammstein got me interested in the language, though
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DNF was announced years ago and its been developed from scratch multiple times by devs that closed down. It's no wonder the game didn't do so well. HL3, on the other hand, has not been announced and not likely in development. Your argument is invalid.
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"Bla bla I am edgy and thinking differently only my reasoning and examples are completely idiotically drawn together"
Yes Valve is not making HL3 fast because they want it to have that impact HL and HL2 had. Note here, HL did have an impact but nothing universe breaking. It brought story and depth to FPS. HL2 brought good physics and realistic NPCs. Both had amazing graphics for their time but that is something an AAA company can go for. HL series hasn't revolutionized games like Quake did for the genre with full 3D. UT reinvented the genre with smart AI, Far Cry/Battlefield set the way for open world and huge multiplayer with good graphics. CoD 1 made FPS into epic movie like experiences with a lot of NPC comrades. HL would be on par with these games. HL as the series of course made it further with allowing modding and supporting it.
With Source 2, more integration with steam and online and some good gimmicks that actually matter they can make HL3 great. Be it mixing genres with single and multiplayer, making more detailed break model software or some kind of realistic physic on the player model itself. Maybe even smarter AI that actually reacts to the player, helps their teammates etc. Realistic damage model for bullets with NPCs actually limping, losing their hands or legs as they get shot, whatever. Maybe even a way to make liner story kind of branch off in some natural way and a L4D like "master" to pace the story and game to introduce components to make the journey unique and as hard as the player can handle. Anything that works can make HL3 great with added end of the story and great graphics with even better modding tolls will make. They are some kind of Blizzard when it comes to introducing good components to the genre, only difference is that Blizzard just hones good ideas of other games and Valve seems to introduce something new and make it near perfect the first time around.
My point being HL and HL2 did great things but nothing "the game is now in 3d" equivalent and there is plenty of stuff players of the genre look forward to, to improve. If they develop on some revolutionary tool that makes NPCs talk and look real or change how FPS tell stories they have it. It isn't something "Now is the year it is impossible to improve on the genre, FPS is perfect". That is total bull. FPS is still quite far off from perfect and HL3 has the ability to hone it.
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So... does that make you 22% edgier than I am? Because your reply is 22% longer than the OP. Character count. Sorry, I'm a nerd. Or does it simply bother you that I try to think outside the box and the length isn't an issue at all?
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"Because your reply is 22% longer than the OP."
Do you think talking n 3rd person is edgy?
"Sorry, I'm a nerd"
Literally everyone I ever heard say they were a nerd was basically not...
"Or does it simply bother you that I try to think outside the box and the length isn't an issue at all?"
Bet you never saw the box.
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"I'd draw a triangle with Skyrim, Fallout New Vegas..." Might as well just put "Bethseda Games"
Edit: By the way, there were 6 years between Half-Life and Half-Life 2, and it has now been 6 years since HL2: Episode 2 came out. I really don't think that compares to I think it was 15-ish years for Duke Nukem Forever.
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...or "Games I like that have done well for themselves." But you're right about the timing. Feels like longer since HL2E2.
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I completely agree. To make the game would be stupid now. It will never reach the aspirations people have for it.
Better let people know that it wont happen rather than make all these people waste time dreaming
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Well, thankfully such decisions are not yours to make. The idea that games have to continually push the bar or continue to raise standards is nonsense. Sure, there will always be games that do so but its not required of a game to be great. Just look at Telltale's Walking Dead, a game created on mechanics that were arguably outdated 10 years ago. It didn't matter as it told an amazing story and it did so amazingly well. Half life doesn't have to redefine gaming each and every time a sequel is released. All it has to do to be successful is tell a quality story and be fun to play. That's it! Nothing more and nothing less. People like you, that put it on some pedestal, as if it stands apart from the rest of the game market, are simply being unrealistic. When Half Life 3 comes out, there will be millions of people running to play it as fast as humanely possible and it wont be because they expect it to be this ultra-amazing experience that will redefine gaming. They will do so because they have enjoyed the story up to this point and they want to see where it goes next. Those people, including myself, will not be disappointed. To even suggest that Half Life 3 won't sell well....well, it tells me you don't know as much about the gaming industry as you think you do.
In all honesty, dropping the Half Life series to create a new IP is hands down one of the worst business idea's I have ever heard of in regards to the gaming market. Half Life is one of the most successful gaming series of all time (Half Life 2 won 39 Game of the Year awards) yet they should just drop it, and start from scratch on a brand new IP. That is just horrible business strategy all the way around. No doubt, you would have been saying the same exact thing towards the end of Half Life 2's long development cycle and look how successful HL2 was. And comparing Half Life to Duke Nuke em, and the companies that produced them, is nothing short of laughable.
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"In all honesty, dropping the Half Life series to create a new IP is hands down one of the worst business idea's I have ever heard of in regards to the gaming market."
The irony is that they've already created 2 successful IPs since they released HL2 in Portal and L4D while moving development of HL3 along.
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I don't think anyone has huge aspirations for HL3, any more than anyone has huge aspirations for the end of the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. But we are invested in the story, and like the gameplay, so Valve better finish it eventually.
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But not you...?
Anyway, sad situation regardless. I give away games I don't want with the hope that somebody will enjoy it. For example, I don't like strategy games. I'm fully aware that if a game has "Sid Meier" in the title, it's probably good. (If there are exceptions, no need to educate me.) Maybe I should try one someday. I just can't seem to get interested. If I had a key to one, I would almost certainly give it away. I don't like all the games in my Library, but I wanted all of them when I added them (or it was a bundle key and I had to take the bad with the good).
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ARE those people asking for HL3 to come out? Not necessarily, most of it is just a running gag on the internet. Also, DNF is not a good game, no matter how you look at it, unless you did a drunk playthrough like some others. No one asked for DNF to come out though.
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A lot of people are asking for Half-Life 3 and I don't get it. Look at Duke Nukem before and after Duke Nukem Forever came out. Before, it was just like it is with HL3. After, even though DNF is, by all rights, a good game (as far as Duke Nukem games go), it's widely hated (yet not enough that I can win it, there are always hundreds of people who want it, so it can't be that bad).
Valve doesn't want people to hate Half-Life, and they would because no matter what Valve does at this point, it's just not gonna live up to the hype. The best of HL1 and HL2, Oculus Rift support, smartphone integration, keyboard/mouse and gamepad support, no matter how many bells and whistles it has, it's just going to disappoint enough vocal members of the gaming community that it doesn't sell well at all.
Instead, what they need to do is just make a new IP altogether. If it were me, I'd draw a triangle with Skyrim, Fallout New Vegas, and Half-Life 2 at each point, and throw darts. Gameplay of Skyrim: Open world, lots of places to explore. New Vegas: Great story, a lot of conversation, a plot you can really sink your teeth into. HL2: Fluid gameplay with physics puzzles. I'd rather the setting not be a dystopian future, though. But one feature I really haven't seen in a game yet. A world that fully reacts to you, and by the end is ugly and hateful if you make bad decisions, but beautiful and welcoming if you make good ones. Help one faction and some areas improve while others are neglected. Help everybody and things mostly stay the same. And death meaning more than respawning. When you die, the world goes on without you and you can see some of the things that happen. (You can still reload, but there's a cost and consequence.)
Point is, a lot of games raised the bar of our standards and added something worthwhile to the ongoing "conversation" of gaming. I don't think HL3 will add anything important. I think Valve should instead set a new standard...
CLICKY CLICKY
edit: Closing this after an edit to make the giveaway more obvious (it only has 5 entries now). Didn't intend to troll the board, just figured I'd find some more intelligent conversation than I did, and unload a game on someone at the same time. Never mind its description, I fouled that one up, just enter if you're interested. Anyway, I think the idea of HL3 is overrated and Valve should focus on other stuff. That's all. Mostly due to all the hype, people can't stop talking about it. Kind of silly. Anyway, cheers, catch you on the next go round or whatever.
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