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Sorry i am writing here but since you replied a few times in my topic about the coffee machine repair thing.
Today i went through the temp agency they hire me through and i thought well maybe a year orso to prove myself and then i could maybe get a perm contract with a better salary, but that might even take 4 years.
I got a neighbour kid that has vacation and is online gaming loudly again till 23:30 (we talked to him and it got less but now he starts again) when my alarm clock goes at 6:00 or just being so extreme warm sometimes takes me awhile to fall asleep, since i started that previous job i had 90% nights of 4-6 sleep and that usually just doesn't make you very sharp, and at most jobs it's not helpful.

I may or may not still have a job pending for warehousing (small one of 4-6 people) hours are from 9 to 18, which would allow me after a bad night to sleep a bit longer and be more rested, but being home at 18 and you still have to cook and such leaves not much of your evening, if i was right it would pay a little more but might also be tasks like dividing 1000 screws into bags of 100, the repair job might be more rewarding mentally.
8 to 5 would be like most ideal, or just part time like i did and try to work myself up to more hours because i am also offcourse at an age i need to gain some stabilitiy financially and thus need the 40 hours after some time (even then i wont ever make like a management salary i know that.

On top of the tiredness I also have episodes of shortness of breath and well lungs and heart are proven normal, although i got a genetic heart thing with some piece enlargened and i dunno if that would be cause enough for that or it's something else or just between my ears.
So i found one other vacancy for 5 hours a day in logistics , i mailed them and they said to sent my CV and predicting they could use someone for 40 hours starting november which allows me to build my hours up and maybe focus more on some power training too, but i still have to await an answer from that.

With the job tommorow i am going straight from 3 to 5 days and i dunno how heavy the machines will be, the work etc (it's still a 3 month trial for both sides) but on top of it that i probably wont get a pay increase for atleast 4 years doesnt make me more comfortable with it, and well i rather now hope more on that 5 hour a day job.

Thing is i got few people that i can talk to about and my parents are like if you don't like it just switch again, but with my history and education it's not that easy to just find something else (last year i could sent in 30 applications with no reply, atleast i do get offers now though) and they are basically like hey it's your choice and maybe it is, but i am also needing to look at my health, sanity but also future financially or even just sucking things up.
It's all that's just going on in my head for the last 2 weeks and just simply don't know what to do and well maybe you could give me some advice.

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Hey Lugum, no worries. I can understand your anxiety and stress on the issue. You can reply in your thread and I'll reply there too. :)

1- Let me get things clear, now you are looking at 2 options. 1 is an Indoor Coffee Machine Mechanic, 2nd is warehousing? 3rd option is unsure.
2- Personally you had undergone some sort of Heart Operation? You worry about your physical health and ability to adapt to a more physical demanding job in a short amount of time and more hours?
3- The indoor mechanic job you are starting tomorrow which is in your hometown; You have a very noisy kid as a neighbor?

I can relate to your situation. My parents and siblings do not really provide me the best of advice during my time of need. I am glad you seek out other advice. Do not blame them though, its not often anyone have a correct answer to decision in our lives or even offer as such.

Warmest Regards and Cheers,
Cruse~

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Hey thank you :)

1- Yes 2 options, with the 2nd option the boss was on holiday but he should have been back by now but then again the chef was going on vacation but he should have gotten back like last week, and with the third option i meet their requirements, the boss is nice (think i had contact with him some years ago when i also applied but back then they didn't anyone but now they got plans to grow) hopefully he will get back tommorow. Number 1 and 2 are in my hometown, the third i can bike in 20-30 minutes or a small bus trip, but starting with a few hours i think i could handle that or just get a second hand electrical bike maybe.

2- No i never had a heart operation, my heart is fine apart from some enlarged piece (which i don't really know what it would do to a human, if it would inflict my health in any way) but it could go worse in the future, the doctors can not predict that, but i do also have diabetes type 2 (together not a good combination) which i take 1 pill a day for and my levels aren not super high.
I haven't felt overall okay for a good year and with all sorts of various health issues like a few times i really almost choked in like a piece of apple or pizza and i often felt like there is some sort of obstruction somewhere between my throat to all the way down (which could explain the shortness of breath and tiredness on top of just 4-6 hours of sleep).
And yes that makes me worry about my physicaly health as i am very skinny and not some body builder and i am not the type that could move heavy things all day (heck even my new pc case weighs like 20kg and i am not happy having to move it and open it sometimes).
Let's say i would be more suited for a desktop job really (but that often just requires a study).

3- A year ago the neigbor kid started online gaming, and when he wears his headset he doesn't hear himself, screams, or just talks and we also just got thin walls and i am sensitive to sound, we talked to him and he went quieter but now i think since it's his vacation he is starting again and this morning i also had to wake up at 7:30 while i slept at 23:30 thanks to him, and to be honest my previous job also partly didn't go further i think because of the tiredness and i couldn't perform the tasks right away that they thaught me (but there wasn't also the patience for it as there was constant pressure from above) ,my previous job started at 7:00 and it was only 3 days but also tough at times, and the coffee repair thing will be the exact same hours but 5 days.

For now i just think option 3 would be best if they want me, maybe train my condition more in the meantime, work parttime and go work to full time near november, or maybe option 2 that would atleast allow me to sleep a bit longer (though being back home later) and maybe look for something even else in the meantime. Things would be alot different with option 1 if i atleast had the possibility to get a full contract or more salary like after a year but both the guy i talked to at the company was vague about it and the girl at the temp agency said could be 1 year, could be 4... But there i get paid weekly, so whatever i work now per week i get paid atleast.
They all will probably require some lifting but option 2 and 3 probably a bit less and if it's not 5 days like in option 3 it's more manageable, i also could have had a try out day as a mechanic elsewhere a few weeks ago, but it added 1 hour and 40 minutes of traveling a day on top of 5 days and i had to turn that down because i felt that would have been too much.

I don't blame them, though it gives stress and i might lash out because of it, but like my dad says it might just probably be between your ears because you aren't used to much, but my whole life been difficult and maybe after more then 30 years being bullied, etc a life right now i never hoped to be at, the constant led downs by people, jobs, it made me tired, beaten too.

If i ever can return the favor and you seek advice, feel free to just talk to me too.

Regards and cheers,
Lugum

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Alrite, Lugum:

1- Option 1 seems to be a good option to learn something new however it may be physical demanding. If it was me, I will tell the boss that I am worried about the physical aspect of the job and the long hours. You are willing to try out, tell him straight, see how he reacts also letting him lower his standards. The contract and agency benefits the employer over you the employee. Of course quitting straight after you promise to work is never good for the agency and yourself in your future application But do not push yourself. I had worked in a Supermarket before where I have to carry heavy items. I either look for items with wheels that helps me move the items or try to find a technic where I can apply the weight to my body over just my arms. Do not bend your back too much though, its a common mistake in weight lifting and you'll end up hurting yourself in long run. What I do like about this is not knowing when you can quit when they do not guarantee you when you get a permanent contract and if you sign for 1yr you have to work for 1yr?

2nd option is basically going back to your life but they had not come back to you. Its good to work with an expanding company growing with them though the work maybe dull can be fruitful if the boss is kind as you mentioned. Give them a call, tell them you have options and if the job is still open. Ask about how rewarding it will be for you to work for them as you are looking for stability and certainly working hard to help him expand. As much as a good employee is hard to find, a good employer is harder to get.

I agree option 3 seems best for you. However, you will stop for a few months which in your case, you want to avoid. It was the case in the 1st place that you are looking for another job now isn't it? I agree it is also a good time to build up stamina and health for the long run. If you can financial afford to do so and at the beginning of November have a good amount of savings that you can use for at least 3 months, the support of your family, certain that you are able to start the job. Yes this is a great option.

2- I googled a little on Heart Enlargement. Its almost like High-Blood pressure/Hypertension which my mum suffers. I am a diabetic too, though I did not see a doc for it after finding out but rely on my diet and working out. Both illness leads to heart attack. It does not matter if you are physically fit/muscled or a skinny frail person. You need Diet, good Workout and a good Rest of Uninterrupted Sleep. I suffer from insomnia from time to time, its better nowadays as I learnt to take care of myself better.

Over here, our law states that noone can generate loud noises after 2300. Even if you felt you had been bothered by noise before that time you can report to the police to "warn" the culprit. Yes I do not recommend police, its how things work here and people here are generally law-abiding. I live in a block of apartments, like you my neighbor living above me generate noise at unwanted times though not as much during the night due to the reason stated earlier. I am more likely a culprit as at times I like to sing when I was chilling during late nights.

I am not too physically weak but I am skinny overall not too tall either. I have sinus, so I have shortness of breathe too, as my nose is often blocked. I can tell you that you are experiencing shortness of breath because you are constantly lacking uninterrupted sleep. Meaning you do not wake up because of noise, nightmare or to pee. Uninterrupted sleep is important and it had plagued me for years till I realise what I was missing. It improves your mood, your concentration and even your physicality too. Generally Sleep before 2300 is the best time as after 2300 the body and liver functions becomes active in your sleep where it helps you regenerate. I heard about it and it helped me a lot when I was adjusting my sleep.

3- A bad and noisy neighbor is an issue. I do not know how your neighbor reacts. Tell them again, discuss with them even with the son? Tell them you needed the sleep in the most courteous of ways of cause. There isn't much of solution when you want to play a good neighbor. I could report my neighbor to the police in my case but they are just irritating now but not to the extend of interrupting me constantly.

Alternatively, to help get uninterrupted sleep, you can remove any electronic device like handphone that you might check before sleep. Use an eye mask and ear muffs. I did not really use an eye mask but I use a towel to cover my eyes if needed, at times I where earphones to sleep which isn't really recommended. The problem would be you will need to wake you up, in case you oversleep and hear the alarm. Prepare yourself to go to bed before 2300 get ready to bed and try not to get bothered by any surrounding sounds. If all thing goes well, and it becomes regular you should be able to wake up by yourself after 7-8hrs of sleep.

I am sorry to hear that you had been bullied and beaten. I am an introvert and had been bullied when young and I developed to be defensive and selective with my surroundings and friends. Its not a bad thing though. No, its never good to be beaten in anyway though. I hope the beating had stopped. Bullying comes in work when your fellow colleagues try to exploit you by making you do their work. Personally, I do not allow others to take advantage of me that way. The solution for bullying for me is saying No and stand my ground on it. I will help my friends or colleagues when I do have the time or they are in need where its not an exploitation. Tell them you are willing to help only if they are in need or you are free to do so.

I can be too naggy at times but I wanted to explain things in details if anything you are confused with do not hesitate to contact me again. Its late, I am going to bed for now so leave me a message. Things may not always work out but always, Keep the chin up ^ :D

Sincere Regards and Cheers,
Cruse~

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Option 3 not sure what you meant by stopping it will be 24 hours till november, then 40 hours they predicted from then on so i would always have some work there.

But i have to go to bed now for that early job atleast tommorow, will read and reply tommorow. regards.

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1- I don't think there are many options to adress my problems, i dunno even if there is an easy to go chef to talk with like in my previous job, it's a big company group (they do coffee machine repair and postal delivery which i had to sign enclosure papers for, you gain entrance through fences) if it was something smaller maybe i could and that's probably what i need, it will look bad if i quit and will cut me out for future things but i never liked working through them anyway because of things i want to avoid i am getting now, uncertainty of a permanent contract in the future, and i always managed to find stuff myself. But i am going to do a job that i just am going to try by hear say so in ways i should'nt be blamed too much if doesn't turn out to be something for me.

2- Over here i believe the noise laws are till 22:00 and he is way over it, i don't have a good relationship with his parents because they turn on the fryer, bbq, fire basket just right before my window, they go in bath at 2:00 all things that bothered me too. But in the past i was the one sometimes singing till late (usually in the weekends though and after some alcohol) but now since i started working that early and having growing older i know it was wrong but that is the past.
So my dad (yes still living with my parents because of the finances) talked with them and it stopped for awhile but as i said it's back again now, he also played the same house song over and over outside with some friends in the garden till 2:00 on a saturday while there are younger kids in the other house next to him.. i would call the police but i don't want to get my parents involved.

I always been a night person and 23:00 does sound way more in my line of when i should be sleeping and yesterday i finally closed my eyes at 0:00 but when your alarm goes at 6:00 but wake up at 5:15 like i did this morning because society wants you to work and just take what they offer you then you end up being broken, i am also getting shoulder pains lately btw which i hoped a new matress would solve, but it doesn't. This is already on my first day atm it just confirms for me that this is probably not best thing for me in the long run, even if it made 3000 a month.
I worked at the other job for 4 months and had to wake up the same times but i continously woke up earlier too, i had 90% of nights where i slept 4-6 hours, i don't think that would change.

I got alot of appliances like my pc, and prefably i would sleep without anything beside a tv but that can only happen if and whenver i can move out, i don't have a Phone because it's alot more quieter and i can't wear earplugs because i would hear my heartbeat very loudly which also can't make me sleep.

So yeah option 2 or 3 of the jobs just atm seems more and more tempted.

I never been really physically beaten, was often words or just being chased after school but i meant more i was feeling defeated in life because of all the struggles that also would make me not have much energy left to fight for something like a job (like this).

Wish i could adress the last paragraphs but really need to start my first day.

Cheers.

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Tell me more about your day when you get back. :)

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I quit after 2 hours, nice colleagues and all, not very heavy big office machines but still i had a horrible night (kid again and just woke up at 5) almost felt like i never worked 4 months before those hours and it was my first time, i was broken. The girl who instructed me just kept on going for 2 hours about different machines (having to know different machines, parts etc) but also the administration work which isn't simple either) and i think it would have gone the whole day without me actually having done anything, if you are awake like going to a long meeting can be hard when you had some good sleep let alone be tired.
She also said she worked through a temp agency for 2 years (and temp agency said 4 years for perm contract (even though chef said wasn't true but he was very strict, didn't even shook my hand when i left) anyway even so if i would get a perm contract i wouldn't get paid more.

Because i worked 4 months at those hours i knew it wasn't just about sucking it up and it would get better and in the end just bad for your health (1 or 2 nights bad sleep isn't a problem, everyone will have that but continously), and therefor decided right there to save both her time and mine and to cut it, and just go for those other 2 options because it allows me to get more rest, and i still very much hope for option 3, because that would give me the space i need but also possibilities to work myself up.

There is also the spiritual part of me (which might make sensitive to things and also limit where i feel comfortable and really my own foodtruck, my own boss, my own place i think would in the end just be the best for me), some said it before and i dunno if i am all knowing, all feeling when it comes to that kind of things but i already felt and knew this wasn't going to be it even yesterday but i still tried to be sure anyway,
Like i met this friend of mine through a spiritual chat room (we otherwise never visited), i got ladybugs dancing circles on a closed soda can or just hibernating in my room, a toad on my way to work which i almost run over but saving it so others don't, butterflies, feathers etc.

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Hi again Lugum, sorry I was a little confused on option 3 after going through details.

1- Yes, I understand. It just did not cross my mind that it would be a big corporation and it does seem future is very bleak when your aim now is to seek stability. Personally, I do not like the sound of it either.

2- 2200 OMG, earlier than mine hahaha. Hey, I live with my parents too. In my culture though since I am the only son I am "suppose" to care for my parents out of filial piety. It is also the way I have been influence and taught of from young. Most of my life revolve with my family and namely parents as I feel a gap with the family at a stage. I have been over the years trying to improve the bond which I am most successful with my mum.

Bad neighbors are like bad friends. I have encountered bad neighbors, one I suspect stole from us. Most of my neighbors are nice people. Only the one above me is giving me issues which can be tolerated. Calling Police would be the last option. Its hard when you do not have a good relationship with your neighbor. Maybe strike a conversation with the son, being a gamer yourself and ask what game he has been playing as such so that he understands that as a gamer too what he does is disturbing others.

My worst experience was actually when I was living with my sister and her family that have trouble sleeping not getting enough rests, affected my mood, my thoughts, everything. Her being my elder sister of course was not in the position to compromise. We got into a big quarrel and subsequently stop talking to each other. We are both stubborn, also I do not find the need to as it does not help any situation at all as we do have a clash of characters.

I can relate your experience from there not getting enough uninterrupted sleep, being restless and hard to concentrate. When you mention shoulder pains, I had random back shoulder pains too which kept me sweating all night and hard to get back to sleep. It was most probably not enough rest, your body muscles telling you they need a rest. Thus nowadays I rest when I feel tired, even just closing my eyes for 15mins. There wasn't enough workout too, human body is a mystery. You need to workout so that your body functions better. You get pains and aches if you do not have a healthy routine.

For a long time, I do not really use my phone except for messages. I still do not use it often apart from watching Twitch. Frankly I do not need one but was forced to get one. It is better to keep things simple in my opinion. We need to nurture the habit of electronics usage and not abuse the usage like everything.

Tuning your sleep time and sleep pattern takes time. Short, it will be weeks, long, months or years. There is a reason others rely on Sleeping pills which I Do Not recommend although I do suffer insomnia due to various reasons. If from the start you sleep after 1 hour you go to bed, go earlier. It is an effort to sleep early. At the start I do wake up at 0200 or 0300, 3-4 hrs of sleep. Slowly my sleep time extended. When I wake up I would just stare on my PC. Most recently, If I woke up before 0600 I will go have a light jog and exercise nearby. It is still not regular due to rain and my sleeping pattern changing again. However, I do not feel as tired as before. Also a reason why I took awhile to reply to you as I was resting earlier.

You certainly seem in need of more rests. Yes, aim for option 3 for now. Get physically well rested and healthy so you can go on further. I had depression before which I never seen a doctor for. I have always been an introvert but I would say I pulled myself out of it and improved my life there after. Which I like to spread Positivity to the people I encounter.

Life is full of struggles, thoughts of suicide crossed my mind before too but I thought it out as it brings more harm to others than any good you feel you do if you end your life. Therefore, I thought, that is just an easy way out, I am a stubborn person. It is easy to compare and feel defeated. However, compare to others that were born with Aids, terminal diseases, waking up in warzones and have to worry when will the get the next meal. My life is a heaven to them. I have been telling myself everyday that I am alive, is a blessing.

Warm Regards and Cheers,
Cruse

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Do you have a job or not currently and if so coping with the sleep problems? And how old are you if i can ask.
I also had alot of fights with my parents over it that i didn't always had a job, and how my life went (and my parents with eachother when i was younger, my sisters are 13 and 10 years older (well the middle one passed away) never had much of a deep bond, we watched shows (especially in the nineties) but you know when there is an age gap.
But at birthdays when the family comes to gether and they Always talk about you, like some even will say why don't you kick him out of the house? Like i'm the black sheep of the family, maybe you also experience that.

My biggest wish in life are kids and a partner but i don't want to simply mooch of a woman so why i don't persue is but well clock does feel like it's ticking, together with my parents being mad constantly, the bills (which i learned crying, getting mad about it or take it as it is doesn't change the outcome or for anything else for that fact) also made me depressed (and when it gets near winter that sort of stuff also gets worse offcourse).
If there was just a simple painless way i probably would have taken such a thing with some alcohol, but since there isn't i never persued it and probably never will.

Someone i knew said you should go jog and i was like you're crazy it's not for me, and i still don't enjoy it but i did notice it was good for your body, but our winters can be very cold and while some are crazy to jog in rain, snow etc i am not, so last winter i couldn't jog for 3-4 months and then i started the job at my previous one and i just didn't felt like jogging anymore, was actually 2 weeks ago that i started again, and i did feel better after it. but at 6:00 it wouldnt be something for me, i just rather drink a cup of tea, watch some soap and do some tasks in a multiplayer game like forge of gods.

I definitely needed rest and i even wanted to crawl in bed just doing nothing for a week but my dad is currently painting my room, and well with that coffee job or just through a temp agency you'd only get 2 free days after a month of work, i wanted to take a week in september (being my bday) was even planned at my previous job but well for now i might have a week or longer to get some rest.

These days you can really grow old and fine with aids, but yeah we do got a roof and food still, alot don't even have that, and we should be thankful for it. But going to that spirituality if you can't even be thankful for simple things like that you know why should "they" above give you more if you can't be even thankful for it..so being thankful is key.

Best wishes.

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I am not a spiritual person. I do not have any religion or faith. I believe in personal judgement. Listening to advises and determine whether they are true or false or the best for me.

Personally, I enjoy cooking, I enjoy watching cooking shows with my mum. At times I would try out dishes we saw on the show and my mum consult me on what we will be eating for dinner. I used to want to do a lot of different things but nothing worked out. I am still pondering my next step in that aspect. One of the ideas like you is to open an eatery. My ideal was to have a place where I could cook for others while I need to eat myself, cooking extras for others.

Learning is a life long process. We can't say we are done after we are out of school. I have a Diploma/Technical Cert but lacking a degree. If at any point in life I get the chance to go to University to get a degree, I will. There are a lot of uncertainties which is what most of us faced however, it is always in the mind.

Cheers,
Cruse

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What's holding you back from persueing that idea, money?

Yeah i got microsoft certificates (MCSE) could have had 2 jobs if i had a drivers license but failed 6 times and no money to continue it's just so costly here, got 8 more IT ones but not a proper diploma, made it hard for me to find things.

Some have to learn more then others it seem, i mean most just get the "perfect" life of a good job, family of their own, house and such, while others go through day to struggles, and i still think that's where spirituality comes in that some just have to learn more in this life then others, and there is a saying for it but what doesn't kill you can only make you stronger. We are much stronger then those people with a "perfect" life.

Hope we will get to what we want someday.

Best wishes.

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