What makes you really citizen of a country? [GAs]

citizenship is what region locked games you can activate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

i hate governments incl. their fucking citizenship...

this is not MY country, not YOUR country, this is OUR planet... :)

have a nice day folks... :D

As an expat, i feel home everywhere except in my "home country". And I will make everything to change my nationality asap.

Still tho, there is country where it is easier to feel home than other.

DNA? but but. where do I belong to. I'm like 1/2 german, 1/4 polish and 1/4 romanian. oh my gawd. such a mess. :o
We have a huge problem with romanian criminals (gang crimes) but I would never say or assume that they are all criminals just because of their citizenship or bloodline. Since I'm a bit of romanian too, and I have never even stolen a bubble gum. lol

I think you become a full citizen once you feel like it and your actions comply with that feeling. Here's how I grew up to this thinking: I am Lithuanian, my DNA is Lithuanian and I live in Lithuania all my life. As you might know, our country has been occupied and annexed by the USSR (Russia) for half of 20th century and by the Russian Empire (in 19th century). So it's probably understandable that people here are suspicious of Russians (5-10% of Lithuania's population is Russian), since most of them are still remembering the "good times" of USSR and wish Lithuania never existed. So when I get to know a person with Russian surname, who speaks with Russian accent and so on, I just talk to them for a while and I see if the person stands for Lithuania's independence and if he feels like a part of it. He may speak bad Lithuanian, but if he works here, has family, accepts our laws and doesn't speak kindly of pro-Putin pro-USSR polititians and figures, I say he's Lithuanian. And in most cases, if that person is my friend or familiar enough, I just ask him what he is. Because if he lives the above mentioned life in Lithuania, but still feels Russian citizen, I want to respect him and his traditions like he respects Lithuanian ones.
And it's the same with other nationalities, except it's less complicated :D

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Oh, it's your topic, I didn't read who made it, I've just seen the title in the night. (I did read your comment you were referring to, it immediately made sense why you opened this one)
It's a really good question, as I think you approach the issue from a random citizen's perspective, not the law's one.
I'm not really big on nationalism, I consider myself Hungarian because I was born here (citizenship). I don't know if I could feel like a true british ven after living decades in the UK. But it wouldn't really matter for me, as it still feels like just a title, especially if it only comes from a single person that I'm not [insert nationality here]. Citizenship feels like an arbitrary title for me, that you can born into and then fling it around in a proud, or ashamed way. It means literally nothing, tells nothing of a person. But again, this is not an easy quesiton, because very likely I wouldn't really call someone Hungarian just for living here, but that wouldn't mean any difference in how I treat the person. Following this thread of through, I would treat someone like another countryman if they would follow at leasts the major traditions - not throwing away theirs, but following the country's ones. (Santa at dec 6th instead of christmas, when angels/little jesus brings the present) - stuff like that.
I still feel I overtalked this. I could say whoever doesn't like pálinka (hungarian fruit spirit the alcoholic kind of) is not worthy calling a hungarian but a lot of hungarians don't like it because it's a pretty strong alcohol. I just don't know. Be nice and friendly, preferably trustworthy, and after that I don't care who you are and how I should or shouldn't call you, I'm fine with you. I rather take a nice person from abroad than a rude countryman.

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I had a German friend at secondary school (UK) and I honestly never thought of him as not British. He understood the comedy (dished it out too) and loved Britain. He went back to Germany sadly due to family problems but still keep in touch and he always talks about how when he finally gets enough money he wants to move back because it's where he considers his home.

If I met someone who came here from a different country and always spoke about how much they hated it I would never consider them British, to be honest even if they lived in Britain their whole life and complained I would still just think why not leave if you hate it so much. I think for me it's all about respect and what they want to be known as. If a Syrian came here that said he was British I would accept that as that's what he wants and I don't see why so many people have a problem with that (Trump, UKIP etc)

I'm from a country where everyone descends from immigrants, so as far as I'm concerned you're a citizen if you follow the rules of the place where you live and you are a "good" citizen. About names, I guess it might be a problem in some places but getting discriminated by that sounds kind of extreme.

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Based on your story you are italian. I explain why i Think so:
You have integrated into italian society and participate and asimilated its culture and way of life. The same as any Other person born there.
So you have The same rights and duties as Them.
People who Thinks The contrary (i presume They do not know you and are judging The book for its covers) have low culture or Great prejudices against foreign people.
You are víctim of The fame that people from your birth country have in italy (and sadly, Probably rest of europe)
Regretabbly this is very hard to Change (and now even harder due to economic and politic world situation)

I feel like your story says more about racism than nationalism or caring about citizenship/ culture.
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thanks. ;)

It's a tough one - my family moved from my the country I was born in when I was a child and throughout my whole life I've had identity problems of a sort. I don't really fit in when I go back to my homeland to visit family because I'm not familiar enough with the culture. Where I've lived most of my life I've never really fit in because of my accent, etc - however much I've been accepted it has always been my defining characteristic. As a youngster especially I struggled between fitting in and being proud of where I came from. I don't have the answers.

In any event, I wish you all the best. After some bad relationships my cousin married a Romanian and he is a really great guy and a great father. He gets a no small amount of prejudice that he doesn't deserve because of certain stereotypes and it really sucks.

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