nice thread, thank you! i absolutely agree. and i am aware that - while i always try to be nice and fair - i still have to work on myself a little. discussions on the internet can often derail, people can get mad. and maybe i am a little too polemic sometimes.
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yeah, sometimes. :( i don't insult people or anything. but there are situations (in fact one just happened) where someone else gets insulting, and i should just stop posting instead of trying to correct him. sometimes a conversation reaches a point where you won't get any further anyway. so instead of keep trying, i should just stop.
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yeah, KA can be polemic, but I can testify, always civil and respectful(at least in my opinion), if everyone could be like this (including me lol, sometimes I manage, sometime I dont)
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I really am positive most of the time but when I'm not I try to. Thanks for sharing Fyan!
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well say Fyan, people are too angry and annoy at each other lately
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first puzzle on SG I have ever solved!!!! MAKE PUZZLES GREAT AGAIN!
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I like your opinion on that matter :)
And it perfectly fits the golden rule (which I try to use myself).
Thread worth bumping :)
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That is your personal view of things - what i see going on steamgifts, are mostly void threads about
giveaways and other nonsense, that keeps the threading "light" which is alright for the given "fabric".
The few "black and white" threads are utterly avoidable and perhaps a good lesson to others. Be happy or negative
all you want, by the end of the day you're the one who has to live with it - surrounding yourself in either of those in
unhealthy doses won't do you any good. Which is a valuable lesson to be learned by experience.
'#shades-of-grey bump
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These are truly hard times for the SG community. Thank you for making a post like this. I fully support every single word you expressed in your wonderfully written post.
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I would argue that all people are worthy of empathy, positivity and forgiveness. Some people get stuck on the forgiveness part, but as I've mentioned, forgiveness releases you from holding on to the anger. It's been more beneficial for me in the past, mostly because the people I have forgiven have no idea that I have. :)
And so what if someone thinks their opinion has more worth. Disagree politely and move on. Right? :)
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Random internet dude here jumping in...feel free to ignore.
I don't like the term "forgiveness," it has too many religious connotations and the notion of turning the other cheek or letting somebody off the hook (so they'd probably do it again). But think of it as letting go of the anger part, but adjusting your behavior/attitude toward the other because of what you've learned. Don't dismiss the life lesson, just dismiss the anger...the grudge. Just because you no longer trust someone who wronged you, doesn't mean you have to hate them. (I'm not saying you always hate them, but I'm using it as an example of where holding onto the negative emotions can lead you).
Anyway, just my two cents. Carry on.
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My solution:
Someone develop a game that is a hug simulator, name it Hugs, and then give away a few keys every day constantly forever.
Problem solved.
P.S. In this entire thread there's only one person on my blacklist. No surprise that the person on my blacklist rejects the precepts outlined in the OP.
P.P.S. Caret.
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Yeah, I wanted to make it, but then I remembered I suck. :P
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Whoa.
I wasn't talking about that kind of stuff. I'm a gentleman. Or, I feign being one.
But I was not referencing a Super Deep Throat sort of game.
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I know all the sides because I've been talking with people involved since the whole thing started. It is not about negativity or rudeness... that's just the result of this whole bullshit. The thing is some are WAY more selfish than others. Most believe that planets have to spin around his body and he/she is the center of the universe. These people are jealousy of other people recognizement (for whatever reason). These people talk a lot about "I" and how much their ideas are better, but they never get listened because their ideas express something directed to their world. I was kinda expecting this behavior since the first time I saw those person talking (I'm a lawyer, I work with criminals and I usually identify when a person want the very same thing that you have, not something similar or something equal).
I joined here because there were no bullshit about the center of no one elses world here. This used to be a great forum where people do things that are, mostly, considered as good for other people, whatever people. The past months I just see people here complaining about people are doing things to specific group and similars egocentric blah blah blah that I hear every single fucking day when I go visit prisoners. I don't want to extend my daily work to a place designed to relax. That's why I've been keeping away from these forums lately.
The negativity around here is coming from a very few people who thinks that way.
This community is just facing the egocentric people inner wishes.
Negativity is not the problem, it is just the result.
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I also forgot to say that I do agree with you, except the fact that people are doing the toxic thing voluntarily.
In the deep, I really believe that these people are not trying to spread negativity or they are hateful (directly)...
They just do their ego stuff and what we have is just the result of their work.
That's a different origin that requires a different attention to solve the problem.
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I think I joined Steamgifts after this happened, I dont remember reading about it before.
Reading this story reminded me an awful lot of something that happened to me many years ago.
When I was 18 me and my friends hung out in a bar a lot. Little town, everyone knows one another and this particular bar was catering to the punks and the metalheads.
There was a lot of alcohol abuse and pot smoking. Which was pretty common and we all took part in it.
One evening we were with a group of about 20 people, kids, sitting at the campfire doing the usual stupid things kids do. One guy, 16, was completely wasted. We made fun of him. All of us did. Safe to say, if I was the one getting too wasted they would have made fun of me. He got angry, very angry. Started throwing chairs around. We told him to fuck off and he left.
The day after he went to school on his bicycle with some of his friends and got a flat tire. He said he was gonna call his parents. He never arrived at school, nor made that call. A week later we got a message that he was found. He killed himself. Left a note saying he could no longer cope with all the shit happening in the world.
For a long time I´ve had trouble dealing with this, I had nightmares. I thought that if I or we had acted differently this might not have happened. I felt we could have helped him. I now realise we could not help him. Maybe that night triggered him, but his path was already set. We learned his parents knew he was depressed but he refused professional help. I visit his grave every couple of years, it still gives me the chills.
But in short, this guy here could not be saved. Maybe playing BoI triggered him, maybe not...
But it doesnt hurt to think before you act or write hateful comments. I still have to work on that myself. Be the smart one, walk a way from a discussion that is not going the right direction,
Btw, it felt good writing that. Even if no one reads it. I think I take a little detour after work today.
So, thanks for the thread Fyantastic. Even if this wasnt what it was meant for ;)
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You can't change what's already happened in the past, you can only change what will happen in the future. I lost a good friend of mine five years ago this november to a drug overdose. It was one of the hardest things that I've ever dealt with. The last time we spoke, we argued over some money that he owed me at the time. Money's nothing :(
Part of life is growing and learning. Now, I don't end any conversation without telling the other person I love them. One of my friends now is from Mexico and he was raised to be a "manly man", so to speak. Throws him off everytime I show affection. Ahaha
Keep your head up man. You can't change what's in the past. Only how you move forward from here my friend. :)
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I am spreading good words and positivity in almost all of my giveaways, but people react on this with mass blacklists on me ; - D
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I am part of a lost generation.
And I refuse to believe that
I can change the world.
I realize this may be a shock, but
“Happiness comes from within”
Is a lie, and
“Money will make me happy”
So in thirty years, I will tell my children
They are not the most important thing in my life.
My employer will know that
I have my priorities straight because
Work
Is more important than
Family
I tell you this:
Once upon a time
Families stayed together
But this will not be true in my era.
This is a quick fix society
Experts tell me
Thirty years from now, I will be celebrating the tenth anniversary of my divorce.
I do not concede that
I will live in a country of my own making.
In the future,
Environmental destruction will be the norm.
No longer can it be said that
My peers and I care about this Earth.
It will be evident that
My generation is apathetic and lethargic.
It is foolish to presume that
There is hope.
Now read the above backwards.
Also
they quickly discover that their anger is futile, for it is really directed at “fate” or at other matters which they are not able to control. Anger that is powerless evolves quickly into depression.
You guys can find these great quotes using Google.
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Sadly, people are awful and we don't live in some sort of fairy tale. It doesn't matter if it's in the real world or on the internet; people just refuse to get along. That will never change, not even when we're about to face our own extinction (which, most likely, will be due to our own actions, because humans are stupid).
Despite that, I still try to be a nice person, or at least fake it. Though, to be honest, I don't know why I even bother.. If only everyone else would do the same, heh.
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This is a great thread. You are a great person.
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bump?
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Fyantastic, my friend, people are what they are... and many of them will just hide the fact that don't understand you, or don't like with words like "negativity".
And that is mostly what I found in the last few years... people saying "positive things" when they actually "hate you guts".
So.. after people that I knew years have turn on me when I spoke against some unfair "rules" and "customs" that they were doing, and remember .. just spoke about.. not beak them... they called me a "negative influence" .... well let me just say that i prefer a negative enemy and/or friend to a "positive" so called friend that back stabs you.
Just my 2 cents as they say / end rant.
as usual please excuse my english
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That's said :( different opinions (if presented in a normal manner) are not negative, just different, it takes some entitlement to take stuff like that as an attack and just brush it off as negative thing. All they should have said is thanks for your thoughts, but I don't intend to change
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I agree with what you're saying, but some people are always going to act a certain way to get reactions from others. It's hard to ignore this all the time. I've never felt the need to get Involved as I spent a long time dealing with anger issues and wouldn't return to that way because of people I've never and likely will never meet.
It'd be a lot easier if more people behaved how you outline, unfortunately some won't
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In the end, the only person you can really change is you. If you can show more empathy, positivity, and forgiveness, is that really such a bad thing? All of these things can be freely given and do not necessarily need to be earned from those you are sharing them with. It's up to you.
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Good afternoon everyone! Well, it's afternoon here anyways! :)
I've popped in and out over the past few months and I've noticed an overall negativity surrounding the forums when I visited. I wanted to share a few thoughts with you all in hopes that it will help us treat one another better and hopefully, with more love and kindness. The one thing we all have in common is our mutual love of this great website and we have the ability to either keep building on the positive environment we have here or to let it turn into something toxic.
Show Empathy - I think first and foremost, we all need to remember and keep in the back of our minds that this is a forum on the internet. With that said, there will be people from all backgrounds, ages, colors and in all different places in life. What you say on here could have either a positive or a negative effect on their life. So, show the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. We've already lost one great member in Rachel let's try not to lose anymore over petty arguments and disagreements that we can easily settle without letting it get completely out of hand. Keep in mind, if someone is saying or behaving in a hurtful way, that could be a sign of something deeper going on in their life and what they could need right now is to be shown a little love and patience. :)
Spread Positivity - With the aforementioned, let me encourage you to choose the option to spread positivity. Not only here in the forums, but take that into your everyday life. I'll be completely blunt with you, when we leave this world, the only thing we will leave behind is the memories others will have of us. Life is entirely too short and precious to argue over things that could have been easily prevented if we had shown each other a little empathy from the start. If someone has offended you in some way, the best way to counter that is by being the bigger person, showing empathy and trying to somehow bring a smile to their face. Fight negativity by showing them positivity, instead of sinking to their level. Nothing will show negative people more satisfaction than letting them know you let them get under your skin. Set an example for others to follow. :)
Learn to Forgive If someone has offended you here or shown you something less than a positive attitude, let me encourage you to show the forgiveness that both you and them deserve. I have been wronged many times in my life, and holding on to the hurt, anger and resentment 9 times out of 10 does nothing, but bring me down. While the person who did the hurting has most likely moved on with life. Don't that let that one small moment bring the rest of your day down, or in contrast, your week or month.
If you feel like you're words aren't important or will have no impact on another person's life, no matter how great or small, I will remind you that a member here committed suicide after making this thread, aftermath here. We need to be reminded of this, because I have seen some serious hate in the forums these past few months.
With that said, I will remind you, that this IS the internet were talking about and there will be sarcasm and trolls and really hateful people here. By the very definition. It's the internet. How YOU respond, will determine the outcome. :)
If you could only sense how important you are to the lives of those you meet; how important you can be to the people you may never even dream of. There is something of yourself that you leave at every meeting with another person. - Mr. Rogers
New Giveaway
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