Well, looks like no more impulse-buying on Steam for me.
And no more fresh Artifex Mundi release giveaways from me for the peace thread.
Also, no more cheap but interesting/useful (for gameplay) DLC giveaways, even though I was actually seriously thinking to get into it.
Otherwise, I only spend money there on cards to craft badges for games I completed. If they close that too, I need to start hoping BFG introduces a saner pricing policy and I can finally mostly leave Steam behind as a shop.
Those fucks at G2A must be jumping with joy now. Key reselling will increase.
On the other hand, thank you, Valve, for confirming what I have been saying for a while now: their income mostly relies on skin trading. The new maximum item price increase and this killing of game trading confirms that this is the only source of revenue they focus on.
Well, as long as the Kreml somehow doesn't create a Big Firewall of Mother Russia to finally keep the internet traffic completely internal and under control. That would probably drop skin trading rates by… 90% or so?
Edit: Heh, this comment is partly uncomfortably true, yet it is hilarious in its own really sarcastic/sardonic way, reflecting reality a bit through the eyes of an everyday guy living in a not everyday region:
Oh, and BTW, it was a brilliant idea to separate Russia and Ukraine on one more field, we were getting too friendly here. Nicely done, Putin would be proud of you.
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Kremlin just decided to enforce it's own debit card system MIR (literally 'peace' or 'world' lol), it will be obligatory for employees' wages payments since next year, so we might expect visa/mastercard ban (internal) or the 'swift' banking network system cut-off (external) for the glorious russia in the future - might as well esteblish their own 'russian steam' )
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That can still be circumvented though, thanks to Steam wallet cards. Steam's own little payment system has always been a nice way for some money laundering or circumventing international or local financial limitations, albeit at some additional cost. (Which would still make it profitable, just not as much profitable.)
As for Russian Steam, I thought it already existed for quite a while, and it is called RuTracker. =D
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I'm starting to think that Valve is flipping us the bird on purpose just because they can
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So now i can't even win good games, because they are with higher costs here than in USA or other regions!
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Yeah, but a few on my wishlist (not the one on steam) are not available on the store for my country.
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I saw strings related to this earlier, but I didn't quite expect this.
Tried gift randomly chosen* game from EU to US.
"Due to regional price differences, the gift you are trying to send cannot be sent to the recipient's region."
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Really ?!
Time to cash out, steam wallet is useless
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10% triggers it. Thanks to Trump, the USD is now a lot closer to the EUR, but not that close enough to not trigger this new Steam lock. Also, publishers started to actually give normal regional prices here instead of the old 1 USD = 1 EUR calculation, and it most often favours Europeans.
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Thanks to Trump, the USD is now a lot closer to the EUR, but not that close enough to not trigger this new Steam lock.
nah, it's on the edge around $1,10 but also not Trump's fault this time. EZB and shit politicians here caused the year long decline down from 1,40.
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Not fault, for a change: the markets reacted positively to him, and why shouldn't they, since he is clearly aiming for a pro-corporation leadership, being a businessman himself. The USD has gotten stronger compared to the EUR, especially with all the political hubbub around here.
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Well this will have zero impact on my giving, as games bought in my region can literally only be given to others in my same country. That region is not even an option on steamgifts so all my giveaways have to be bundle or ROW store keys. But I think we will see a lot less 'big' game giveaways on this site now.
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Well obviously, there are just a lot more but I think the number would decrease even more as a lot of gifters would buy games on the steam sale to give later.
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You know, I would prefer this announcement to start with "Listen now cocksuckers" and ending with "Fuck you", because wrapping this shit up in " we want to make it easier for you to share the games you love with friends" is much more insulting.
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Yeah, that's a pretty ridiculous PR communication. Gaben really should proof read and sign off on this stuff. Makes his company look bad unnecessarily. It should've at least tried explain what's really happening so we better understand.
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It's hard to believe that they actually think that the majority of us will actually swallow that line of bullcrap. I know that some people will think it's the bee's knees, but it is just another thing that Valve has done recently to alienate their customer base.
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Considering 326 people upvoted the damn thing, it makes me wonder if they understand what it even means.
Or the possibility that Valve employees are upvoting the damn thing.
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Considering the amount of times I complain of the SGMA and hear "it's for your protection" or "millions of people got hacked every month, just check the official announcement" I do believe they made these for all the people who just gobble it up as truth and spread it to all unbelievers who actually think it's a scheme to cut support traffic or force their app/consider the amount of reach for a steamphone.
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With ROW copies no longer being a thing. Some countries will also have to deal with their games being censored/not being able to get the games at all.
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Basically if you are giving it away to someone on a cheaper region, you're ok.
If you are on a cheaper region gifting to someone on a more expensive region, you're out of luck, you can't gift.
And Steam definition of region goes by region = country on most cases, as for regional pricing most countries already have specific prices for their currencies. Even users in countries in the same geographical region might not be able to gift games to each other both ways.
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So how would this work for me? I live in Canada, and as far as I can tell, I am in one of the more-expensive regions for purchasing games on Steam. Would you happen to know if there would be any places I wouldn't be able to send gifts to?
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It varies by the game , if the game is 10% cheaper in Canada than US , than you cant send it to someone in US
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That probably won't come into effect (at least, not anytime soon), as our dollar is so weak right now compared to the US Dollar. It's pretty sad that the potential for that happening in the future, as Canada and the US are next door neighbours!
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Indeed it takes me an hour to cross the border to US
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Hello, fellow Canadian.:)
Aside from the sad news of this thread, I hope you are doing well.:)
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well im a trader so this is indeed sad news ):
altho only around 10% of my trades are steam store related so it doesn't affect me as much
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But that is only if a game is cheaper for me, right? If I pay more than they do for the same game in the US, I should be okay to send it? For example, Fallout 4 for me to purchase is $79.99. If it is cheaper in the US, I would be able to send it to a winner from the US, right? Or am I totally misreading what you guys said! O.O
Valve is seriously pissing me off right now. I'll probably have to leave my Steam Groups that deal with giveaways unless I find some way of getting keys to make giveaways for. :(
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yeah you send fallout 4 to US
you basically go here first https://steamdb.info/
look at the game if its 10% more expensive in any other region you cant gift it there
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Wow! So I pretty much can't send them anywhere. So, thank you very much Valve, you stupid freaking greedy bastards!!!
"Send them to your friends!" indeed. What friends? The ones that live down the f**king street from me? Because the way it stands right now, those are the only ones I'll be able to send them to.
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So you don't have to read earlier comments this is NOT the case.
Someone tried gifting to the US from EU prices, and the region lock message popped up.
So the cutoff is 10% (or extremely close to 10%) no matter if the price is increased or decreased.
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I can see how Valve would think that choking the life out of resellers and marketplaces would lead more people to purchase games at full price directly through Steam, but I doubt it will have a large impact on full price purchases. I predict its primary impact will be a sharp decrease in the quantity of sale purchases, which will not only lead to less profits for Valve but will massively hurt developers and publishers who had no say in this decision. This is a really poor move in my opinion.
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The Valve love-hate relationship with its users continues. Hopefully more people will be buying keys from 3rd party sites instead of steam gifts during holiday sales from now on. Maybe that will be enough for them to get their bs together on this situation.
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Wouldn't count on that - I think I only bought about half of my gifts on Steam, maybe more, but definitely not all of them (especially the most expensive ones were from Humble or GMG). But it's unlikely it'll break the record again this time around.
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Used to buy games as gifts when I had a voucher from badge crafting to give them away here afterwards.
RIP that.
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Great another headache to deal with. I hope this seriously impacts their revenue so they're forced to rollback on this stupid change.
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If I could somehow refund my Entire Steam Library (other than the games I won here & Valve exclusives such as Portal series) I would do so.
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The only way out of this hell - is steam gift cards\codes, but this is stupid and boring to give away steam gift card codes instead of actual games, and it is unimplementable on SG since you can't possibly verify what person buys or even stashes code.
This is sad 😐
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Guess I'm not THAT pessimistic about chinese WeGame anymore. Valve really walks on a thin ice lately, feeling allmighty and stuff, while not doing much as an actual service (if standard 30% sales cut and user-created skins matter at all), less said developing one.
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Another scumbag move in a long line of scumbag moves.
The worst thing about this is the absolute braindead idiots incapable of critical and rational thinking who will actually defend this on forums and stuff, I've already seen some in the Steam community. That shit genuinely drives me nuts.
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Yeah, I was just reading a comment thread over on steam. It's like they can't imagine any legitimate use for inventory. I think they think steamgifts is a reseller site when it's mentioned. I only play about 20% of what I buy maybe, so inventory is safe place to put things for me until I decide I'll never get to it and give it away.... ;-) I think there's lots of people like me who buy way too many games, and inventory gives us the excuse that I can give it away later if I don't play it.
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https://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791457287600/announcements/detail/1301948399254001159
You can now only buy something directly for another steam user and if they decline, your money gets refunded.
"Steam Gifting will now be a system of direct exchange from gift buyer to gift receiver, and we will be retiring the Gift to E-mail and Gift to Inventory options."
"Note: Pre-existing gifts will be unaffected by this change."
here's a change.org petition created by another user in the thread,
https://www.change.org/p/valve-corporation-valve-please-bring-back-previous-gift-system-on-steam
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