Will you buy from Epic
https://www.gog.com/game/assassins_creed_directors_cut - the first AC is on GoG. Valhalla is appparently not going to be there however - it is not in preorder possibilities
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That doesn't make their argument invalid. The Ass Creed games that are on Steam are still playable throught Steam, even though you need an UPlay account.All the games are right there in their Steam library ;)
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it does "I don't want more than one platform to play all my stuff on." - Wanting to play AC means having more than 1 platform hence not playing it because it is not steam is a nonsence since even previous AC games required Uplay.
Also they are in the steam library in the same way that you can add any other game from any other client there - games, add non steam game to my library. Steam serves no purpose and makes the ability to play the game more complicated by running two clients at the same time. The only difference is the ability to unlock achievements on steam (which are literally the same as on Uplay) and the feeling of having it there.
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you can add any other game from any other client there - games, add non steam game to my library.
That's not the same ;)
And the "making things more complicated by running two clients" is true, but it's Ubisoft's fault, not Steam's. It's Ubisoft who insists on creating an UPlay account when a Steam acc is all you should need. And btw, I think it's safe to assume that you need UPlay acc even if you own Ass Creed on Epic, so... not exactly a good argument to make in Epic's (or Ubisoft's) favor ;)
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It's not the same as just adding a non Steam game to your library though. You are oversimplifying things to make your point. The only difference isn't just achievements.
There are trading cards, backgrounds, emoticons, etc. Access to the Steam market for these to sell/buy.
There are user guides, videos, screenshots, art and a discussion forum for each game. You can broadcast the game through Steam.
There's access to your friends list, the Steam overlay while in game, etc.
It's a matter of whether any of the features on Steam matter to a person. For some they just want the game to play and the rest doesn't matter, to others it does.
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+9000
You pretty much hit the nail on why millions of people prefer Steam because of these features and more
And not having to deal with EGS amateur, buggy, featureless mess of a launcher is a huge plus for me.
Calling Steam "just another launcher" is really oversimplifying it and you did a great job clarifying that.
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so go take some EPIC EXCLUSIVES for the same price as on other platforms(ofc when exclusivity ends)...without that shite u dont use
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I and (according to EGS last year revenue) lots of people prefer to pay that extra 20% you mentioned to get a better and more stable service.
Those features are extra, steam didn't have to provide any of them but it still does. Plus you're probably the only user who doesn't use "all that shite" since there are more than 90m active users and 26m of them are constantly online who use steam for those features, not games alone.
So again... you're probably alone on this :)
Edit: After one look on your profile, it shows that you basically use all of steam features. From guides, profile showcases, screenshots, and a ton more, so the "all that shite i dont use" is a really bad lie... It's sad what people do for some free games.
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What!!?? crates and keys are not steam features??? those are games related stuff and has nothing to do with any store or it's features...
I really don't get your points and what does any of this has to do with steam??
The only thing I can take as features are cards and those are really tame and have nothing to do with kids??
Please stick to your argument points :)
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OK... since you have reached this level of mental gymnastics, I prefer to walk away from this conversation.
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Honestly why would you buy it on Steam, GoG or Epic since it just starts Uplay when you click "play the game"? you are basically adding another unnecessary step to play the game that can not work and up to that you can already get it with -20% off on Uplay by using points saved.
I don't think the +1 is worth all that struggle and possible problems.
and "I don't understand their shady business tactics" - you don't really understand that some developers prefere to get money from their games instead of giving huge share to valve? I understand that and I consider competition healthy, especially since Steam had basically a monopoly
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I consider competition healthy
What Epic does is not a competition though. They just want to keep throwing money around until THEY have the monopoly, this has been their sole purpose from day one.
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That's how it is. If you thought Epic actually cared about the devs or the gamers, then there's indeed no purpose in any further talk.
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You have a nice day in your cozy little bubble where Epic isn't a piece of greedy shit. Must be nice there.
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These company are still alive because the selling from consoles ...
Ubisoft just want to make sure that you buy games from uplay if you dont like EGS
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It's better tpo sell 100 copies of game for 100$ and get only 70% out of it, or sell 50 copies of game for 100$ each and get 88% of this?
Same price for GAMERS
Fak logic ye?
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lol, gamers are all talk. That is exactly why they do this.
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I own all the Assassin Creed games on Uplay, so as long as that's an option, I'd still buy it. If it's Epic only, then no, it'll be a pass from me.
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Not gonna buy it on Epic. But I might get it on Uplay if the game is good. Will probably wait for a sale tho.
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i dont play anything on Uplay
If epic will not link Uplay i might think about it
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im not pissy, just pointing out how epic is not shit
but having to use 2 different DRM is total BS
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If you only get it on Uplay, there'd be only 1 DRM so I don't really get why you'd avoid Uplay but not Epic, Epic being another DRM anyways like Steam.
Also, currently, even if you buy Uplay games from Epic, once the game is linked to an Uplay account, you can directly launch from Uplay without booting up Epic, which makes it 1 DRM. That's why a lot of players were using the $10 coupon to buy Far Cry Primal / 5 / ubi games.
Only Steam does the 2 DRM thing with Uplay atm, for people who want the whole screenshots and sharing, cards etc.
Let's be honest, if you weren't playing AC / Far Cry / ubi games( on Uplay in some form), you aren't going to buy their new release anyways so it doesn't matter!
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I don't think Ubisoft told Steam to do it that way. If it were going how they would like it, then steam wouldn't be needed.
But Steam wanted it that way, so they agreed on it.
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id love to get back into farcy, but the whole Uplay thing is keeping my away
I hate the concept of each publisher setting there own launcher
Epic might not be as feature-rich as Steam, but it can be. As its library and userbase grows it will have to evolve or die
So GOG/STEAM/EPIC are competitors. but Bethesda/Uplay are just a waste of space
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I have discovered that when I am not interested in a game, I am not bent out of shape by it being exclusive. D
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the shilling is strong here. 😂
not interested in ac games, but if i want something that's exclusive on epic, i'll just wait till it's on steam (borderlands 3 and metro exodus). if not, there are other ways to play those games (SuPpOrT ThE DeVs!).
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And interest just went all the way down to zero. They can keep it with their exclusivity, I'll live without it
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I'm not overly upset about it not releasing on Steam as I rarely buy games on release anyway but it is mildly annoying that the Epic sponsored Steam boycott is going on still.
The plot from the trailer seems somewhat odd though unless there's a twist baked in there somehow. We're supposed to be the "hero" of the story as a Nord going Viking? That is raping, plundering, and pillaging. And the guys trying to defend their lands are the bad guys?
I had enough trouble with the "story" in Odyssey where you are supposed to repeatedly switch allegiance on a whim and with all the nonsensical filler quests you have to acquire currency for the "in-game" store
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The forced events in Ubi games are admittedly annoying, I'm the type who hates event cutscenes when they make your decisions for you. This happened a lot in Odyssey and Far Cry 5.
In Odyssey the Elysium dlc, I thought I was just going to do a bunch of missions to placate the Queen but no apparently I have to rebel against her for some reason, just to ask for directions. It was more expected in the second dlc but again? That seemed so repetitive I was dreading that the same dang thing was going to happen in the third dlc. I guess I'm more used to RPGs that let you choose your allegiance.
Maybe this Viking one will end up in a Humble Monthly or super sale or free somewhere, looking at the previous titles. At least Odyssey had beautiful landscapes, I'm not sure the Viking setting will be any exciting.
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AC was never strong about decisions (with the hole re-experiencing Memory thing)
They ditched that a bit in Odyssey, but it's still there.
I liked the way it was in the earlier games, as I don't like meaningful choices, I always feel I made the wrong one ;)
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At least Odyssey had beautiful landscapes, I'm not sure the Viking setting will be any exciting.
I have the same feeling for some reason but I think this is mostly due to my general slight distaste of anything Viking themed. Thinking about it rationally it will most likely be a very graphically impressive game
I'm thoroughly impressed with the graphics in Odyssey. I've spent an embarrassing amount of time just staring at some details in the game. Among the most notably Demosthenes plumed helmet.
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I don't know which was the last good Assassins Creed Game? Revelations, maybe? Everything after that was a cluster fuck. Haven't played Odyssey but if Origins is any indicator, it's just another Ubisoft Shallow World game with the name Assassin slapped on it.
Ubisoft was once a good developer but they haven't made a good game in while and I'm not interested in either way. Epic can suck balls as I hate exclusivity, of any kind (except the first party ones, which I still don't like but understand).
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Revelations?
The best thing there was the trailer.
There were so many great games after that, I loved 3, 4, Syndicate and Odyssey. All others were good too, the only thing I didn't liked was Unity, as the Coop Mode didn't really worked for me.
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I mean, I loved it. Sure it was all same...y like it't predecessor but it had it's charm in Ezio and overall moments, relative to the AssCreed mythos, which was fun for me.
3 sucked (mainly because the performance was atrocious at that time, still is) and the Protagonist was the blandest of all; Plus what they did to Desmond, I could not stand.
4 is not an assassin game but a pirate one. It was good in that aspect but as an AssCreed game, a crap one.
5 is OK
Syndicate was above average but could not capture the charm.
Origins was all RPG and too much generic Ubisoft open world and looking at Odyssey gameplay, I think it's the same.
Valhalla will be no different, so it's gonna be easy pass (OK, probably I'll get it in Humble Choice, after a couple of years)
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Well, steam or torrent. I did not use torrent for years, but i dont like if they want to force me to a specific platform. I don"t want to have x hundert accounts because one game that interests me is on epic, another one is only available on uplay, ect, ect. I have steam and uplay and that's enough for me.
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"Gameplay trailer" showing no gameplay, now I'm seriously worried about the quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgUtoX7ue7Q.
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Hijacking this thread to joke a bit on consoles.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla will "run at least 30 FPS" at 4K on Xbox Series X
ELEMAO
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now you can buy it in 2 weeks
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2208920/Assassins_Creed_Valhalla/
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I don't understand their shady business tactics. Just release the game on every possible platform to reach wider audience. No one asking them to not publish on Epic. Just release on all platform. No buy from me.
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